Semifinal #1 Germany vs Turkey [R]

[1a Schnitzel]

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[Thatturkishguy]

Ok I propose they change the final match make the field 1.5 times bigger and a square, throw two balls in there, add two goals and let all four teams play...

4 teams enter 1 team leaves!!!

[The Natural]

Congratulations to Turkey. You played an amazing game, but it is incredibly ironic that you would lose to a last minute goal. Thanks for bringing us the most exciting games of the tournament.

Turkey also gave up a late goal in their opening game against Portugal so they've dealt them and taken them throughout the whole tournament.

[1a Schnitzel]

BTW thanks for the great moderation! I dont want this to be dragged into the racist political corner! :)

[Oscar]

Marcel Desailly : '"the best team did not win" , after Turkey-Germany match,

I hope, at least in the final match, UEFA does not assign referees to help some BIG, so called FAVOURITE teams,
I hope Russia will go to end

Germany could have gotten a penalty, or if not that definitely a foul from a dangerous spot when Lahm got taken out.

I wanted Turkey to go though, but I don't see how the ref decided this match in favour of Germany.

[The Natural]

Turks and Greeks get along too everyone in the world is one big happy family.

[sinan]

Germany could have gotten a penalty, or if not that definitely a foul from a dangerous spot when Lahm got taken out.

I wanted Turkey to go though, but I don't see how the ref decided this match in favour of Germany.
It was outside, and also Lahm grabbed and pulled Kazim inside the box.

Football is not that simple, you dont need to give obvious decisions to cut the veins of one team.


what I am talking about since the beginning of the game, when Turkey was doing counter-attacks, germany had `tactically` stopped them behind, which requires a yellow card, did not show them, for example Lahm did that two times, did not get a yellow, what if he got yellow in the first, then he could not cut the attack in the second, and it would probably result in a goal.

If there is such a thing called anti football, I d call what Germany did tonight, I ve never seen such a thing, and after the match Fatih Terim did not shake hands with Busacca,
those who know football, who plays football see what happened there.

just a poll before tournament, they asked to people in Switzerland, who you dont want to win this Euro cup, %37 said Turkey being first, second country was sth like %17.
. ( and imagine there are lots of Turks there)

[Leinad]

It was outside, and also Lahm grabbed and pulled Kazim inside the box.

Football is not that simple, you dont need to give obvious decisions to cut the veins of one team.


what I am talking about since the beginning of the game, when Turkey was doing counter-attacks, germany had `tactically` stopped them behind, which requires a yellow card, did not show them, Lahm did that two, did not get a yellow, what if he got yellow in the first, then he could not cut the attack .
If there is such a thing called anti football, I d call this , I ve never seen such a thing, and after the match Fatih Terim did not shake hands with Busacca,
those who know football, who plays football see what happened there.

if there would be a link in a dictionary for bias it would link to this post.

['Schland fanatic]

Today showed the difference between Germany and teams like England, Holland and Spain (no jinx). They continue to overhype and d***ride (excuse the language) those teams while we are busy winning 'ships. Just like the unpopular San Antonio Spurs do in the NBA.

[UEFA2008]

:confused:

Switzerland '54, Belgium '72, Germany '74, Italy '80, Italy '90, England '96?

They've won more finals than they've lost.

Finals won:

Switzerland '54
West Germany '74
Italy '90
Belgium '72
Italy '80
England '96

Finals lost:
England '66
Spain '82
Mexico '86
South Korea & Japan '02
Yugoslavia '76
Sweden '92

Finals: 6 won-6 lost

[roxbury]

if there would be a link in a dictionary for bias it would link to this post.


why is that?


is it hard to believe the point?.

[sinan]

if there would be a link in a dictionary for bias it would link to this post.
I did not have hope before match, even I said we will lose since we had missing 5 best players, so I have no reason to be biased,
anyway no need to spend my energy, Russia will play football and win at the end, unless a referee is assigned to stop them.

[Thatturkishguy]

Even though I was unable to watch most of the second half (damn you technology) I don't understand how people say luck or the ref was one way or the other. From what I saw this was a hard faught game neither team had extremely bad breaks that absolutely decided the game. Calls are never going to be perfect but hey that's soccer (football, Give me a break I'm American). I didn't see any one team get any unfair advantage, I'd say Germany won fair and square.

[sinan]

E (football, Give me a break I'm American). .

Sorry dude, that s the reason why dont you get it, cause Americans does not know soccer deeply yet, as Turks do not know about basketball yet, think about fouls against Shaq for example, similar to that, in Turkey basketball league, if you do such a thing, tactic , people will not get it.

we play with americans ever week, though they are physicall stronger , running twice as much as us, can shoot stronger, we always win, guess what?
there is something called, vision, tactic.

[roxbury]

It was outside, and also Lahm grabbed and pulled Kazim inside the box.

Football is not that simple, you dont need to give obvious decisions to cut the veins of one team.


what I am talking about since the beginning of the game, when Turkey was doing counter-attacks, germany had `tactically` stopped them behind, which requires a yellow card, did not show them, for example Lahm did that two times, did not get a yellow, what if he got yellow in the first, then he could not cut the attack in the second, and it would probably result in a goal.

If there is such a thing called anti football, I d call what Germany did tonight, I ve never seen such a thing, and after the match Fatih Terim did not shake hands with Busacca,
those who know football, who plays football see what happened there.

just a poll before tournament, they asked to people in Switzerland, who you dont want to win this Euro cup, %37 said Turkey being first, second country was sth like %17.
. ( and imagine there are lots of Turks there)

Well said points.

But, gues what?


Turkey vs Czech
Turkey vs Croatia
Turky vs Germany

all these games, the Turks saw yellow with utter way.
But, smilar fouls/position in other games of other team plays;
Ref didint show anything almost.


could be lobby.

like 2002 Rivaldo scene,
or Ronaldo pk position at outside of area, refs gived inside present.

Turkey always get unfair referreing at tournaments;
96,
2000
2002
2008


anyway,
with out NINE starters players , Turkey climp to semi finale....

And they deserv to get Thanks and prize from theyr Nation.


Congrats to the Germany in theyr win.

[UEFA2008]

Marcel Desailly : '"the best team did not win" , after Turkey-Germany match,

I hope, at least in the final match, UEFA does not assign referees to help some BIG, so called FAVOURITE teams,
I hope Russia will go to end

Conveniently, UEFA already assigned the referee for the final before the semifinals have even played. Who is it?

Roberto Rossetti and his team from Italy.

If I were Spain or Russia and made it to the final, I will be more worried about that referee then Germany.

[Brehme]

Germany played the semifinal for the third time in the last four big tournaments and reached the final for the second time.

They didn't play great, but hey, it's always like that in these games with Underdogs when they play against big teams. Rarely the big teams win clearly. However, Germany managed to score three goals vs Turkey today and win the game despite playing average, that's what big teams do. Teams like Netherlands or Portugal always lose these games when they have a bad day, Germany wins these games.

Congrats to Turkey for giving a good fight.
.

[JeremyEritrea]

Finals won:

Switzerland '54
West Germany '74
Italy '90
Belgium '72
Italy '80
England '96

Finals lost:
England '66
Spain '82
Mexico '86
South Korea & Japan '02
Yugoslavia '76
Sweden '92

Finals: 6 won-6 lost

Whoops, I forgot about Sweden '92.

Still, Germany has played in 12 World Cup or European Championship finals, and are about to play their 13th. That's 12 more than England has ever done. :D

[Black Label]

Germans will be Germans thats all there's left to say.:cool:

[Todorov]

Well, first of all congratulations to Germany. They have reached the final and as the saying goes "gloria victoribus".

As for the game itself, I think Turkey excelled with their reserves. They proved decisively that they are quality side, even to the most skeptic ones out there who still thought they were in the semis out of sheer luck. I would like to see Spain, Russia, Italy or Holland play this way against Germany with such limitations. Bravo to them!

I was rooting for the turks and I still feel kind of bad they haven't got through. Rüstü's mistake (second in a row, after the one against Croatia) did cost them the game this time. It goes without saying that Volkan should've played today but UEFA is once again to blame on that: Schweinsteiger got 1 game, Demirel got 2. Football's justice is far from blind.

Anyway, their team has a lot of passion and some quality, especially up in front. I hope they can build up on this and have a strong presence in 2010's WC.

As for Germany, well, it's the same old same. Kind of dull, kind of slow, kind of lucky, but they managed to deliver the result they needed once again. Still, if they are going to win this one, PLEASE, play a lot better in the final for the sake of the game. I don't think this German squad is a great team, far from that, but I think they can and must play better than this crappy football displayed tonight. Probably it was Low's strategy to bore Turkey to death and it eventually paid off, but for us out there, sometimes this kind of game is too painful to watch.

I'm still hoping for Spain or Russia to win this cup, really. And one can never hope too much. :cool: