View Full Version : paul ince set to be confirmed as new manager
dring1
19 Jun 2008, 08:32 AM
seems as though ince is now rovers first choice and an anouncement is expected tommorow. just want to know every ones thoughts on our new manager should it be confirmed. i for one think it is a very good choice ahead of big fat sam or mcclaren. think we are just waiting from the premier league to give us permision.
USRoverDE
19 Jun 2008, 09:42 AM
personally, I'm consumed with fear. I'd have rather have Fat Sam, maybe not McClaren, but I can see that case (difference between Boro and England from his CV).
Ince doesn't have any history in dealing with the primadonna premiership and top level players. Given the fact that he's the "guv'nor", I fear for a dressing room rift that kills the team spirit of the side.
He's got no real experience in the transfer market, which is a massive problem given our lack of budget. When we only have a few million to spend, one or two bad signings can cripple us. I have nightmaers of him prepeating of Keano's signings at Sunderland (Ian Harte and Yorke anyone?).
He doesn't have his coaching badges, so may not get approved by the prem to even take the job. Despite being in coaching for 2 years and apparently have the aspiration to be a prem manager. Shoiws a lack of planning/foresight
He disparaged the club during his playing days, sayingsomething along the lines of Blackburn not being big enough for him. But now, apparently we are big enough for him. Just shows a lack of class to me.
YankBastard
19 Jun 2008, 09:53 AM
Ince is kind of like Roy Keane. As in, you better have your shit together or you're out. Ince don't ******** around, he's got a lot riding in his shoulders, especially for black managers of the future.
Rex Kramer
19 Jun 2008, 10:16 AM
Ince doesn't have any history in dealing with the primadonna premiership and top level players. Given the fact that he's the "guv'nor", I fear for a dressing room rift that kills the team spirit of the side.
He's got no real experience in the transfer market, which is a massive problem given our lack of budget. When we only have a few million to spend, one or two bad signings can cripple us.
Couldn't the same have been said of Mark Hughes when he first became Rovers' manager?
I have to adopt a wait-and-see attitude here. I'm glad it's not Fat Sam or Sven2.0 because long balls from the back entirely bypassing the midfield is boring as hell and easy for opposition to figure out. However, I don't really know anything about what Ince has done at MK Dons to say whether this will be a good or bad signing.
Given that we will almost certainly lose a few players to the Big 4 and Man Shitteh, he is probably going to have get good very quickly in either the transfer market, motivation or both.
BlackburnRover
19 Jun 2008, 11:54 AM
I'm on the fence here.
Some ways I'd rather have fat boy. If he can get us to 5th like he did with Bolton I don't care how we play under him, and he wouldn't be leaving after a good couple of years.
Ince, no experience at this level but then again neither did Hughes. Either way he is a risk, which could pay off I agree, or it could fall apart. He seems switched on though, and has a decent record so far. My main worry would be the same as USRoverDE, transfers, we can't afford to have too many bad ones or we'll be full of Christian Daillys again. Also I'm pretty sure he'd be using us as a springboard in his managerial career. Having said that if he does move on to better things it means we've had a few good years under him.
But all this is just the BBC guessing, could also be Laudrup according to SSN. Now him I'd like.
At least it's not McClown though, I hope.
Revelian
19 Jun 2008, 12:30 PM
Who isn't going to use Rovers as a springboard? Not even our greatest ever striker loves us.
Revelian
Revelian
19 Jun 2008, 04:16 PM
Proof that Incey will not be denied by Ella-Mae:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=548901&cc=5901
Revelian
dring1
20 Jun 2008, 06:52 AM
deffinatly not mclowen or big fat sam as mcclaren has taken the job with the dutch club and big fat sam has pulled out which makes u think they have already been told who has the job.
dring1
20 Jun 2008, 06:55 AM
Who isn't going to use Rovers as a springboard? Not even our greatest ever striker loves us.
Revelian
he wanted the job but as i understand rovers pulled out due to the clauses that he wanted.
BlackburnRover
20 Jun 2008, 07:21 AM
The more I hear from Ince the better he sounds, he seems to have his head screwed on the right way. To be honest every manager is a risk and makes me nervous but Ince seems as good an option as any.
Whoever we pick we'll be getting behind them and good luck to them.
Apart from McClown, poor old FC Twente.
Revelian
20 Jun 2008, 12:22 PM
he wanted the job but as i understand rovers pulled out due to the clauses that he wanted.
I was talking about Corrado Grabbi - who were you talking about? ;)
Revelian
USRoverDE
20 Jun 2008, 03:01 PM
Re: Hughes versus Ince.
Hughes dealt with top level players with his international side, and as such, although it wasn't exactly dealing in transfers, (JW can handle the money side), he did have to spend time scouting top talent both for his side, and to look at the opponents. Ince has had to do neither in division 4. Scouting and signing division 4 players is a different ball of wax in my eyes.
Besdies, we got one right with Hughes, to some extent,(I'm still not 100% convinced that he was all that great tactically) but does that mean Ince is just as "sure" a thing? Absolutely not. If that were true, why wouldn't every former player immediate go to teh top of everyone's wish list for coaches?
I've never said Ince can't become a good one, but I'm afraid sinceI believe the likely is that he wont. And if he's not, the consequesnces are frightening.
YankBastard
20 Jun 2008, 05:39 PM
I've never said Ince can't become a good one, but I'm afraid sinceI believe the likely is that he wont. And if he's not, the consequesnces are frightening.
Don't worry, as long as you have him in your squad, you'll do alright.
http://www.worldcup365.com/Images/61645.jpg
kjarv32
20 Jun 2008, 08:23 PM
BLACKBURNROVER post: I concur - the best thing that happened to me today was seeing the McClaren news. FC Twente will be FC Twentieth in the Eredivisie - and there are only 18 teams in the league!:)
From what I see in the Lancs. Evening Telegraph, it's down to Ince and Laudrup, now that the EPL has granted the dispensation. Either one would be great. Friedel appears to be on board with Ince.
What was Allardyces reason for pulling out? Just to save face?
Already looking forward to the season...
iDiveStevieG
20 Jun 2008, 09:35 PM
It's always nice to see young managers making a name for themselves. I'm interested to see what he brings to the table. If this actually goes through, I hope to see him and his team doing well next season (when you're not playing united). :p
Hauler
21 Jun 2008, 12:24 AM
I see this not only as a good solid move for your club but also as great media coverage. First Black Manager in the prem is great. Being Black myself I love that this is actually happening cause its history. I think you will attract great players and he will get the very best out of them. Don't worry Rovers you will do fine.
dring1
21 Jun 2008, 09:08 AM
I see this not only as a good solid move for your club but also as great media coverage. First Black Manager in the prem is great. Being Black myself I love that this is actually happening cause its history. I think you will attract great players and he will get the very best out of them. Don't worry Rovers you will do fine.
wasnt jaun tigana of fulham black? oor maybe half cast just cant remember but doesnt matter what couler their skin is as long as they do the job. the one thing we cant do is critisize him after 3 or 4 matches if we dont start off well. just give him time and see how it goes. the football under hughes first season was horrible to watch but he changed it once we were safe.
dring1
21 Jun 2008, 10:40 AM
seems their could yet be a twist in this. been reading nickos thread on brfcs and he said rovers have today been speaking to another candidate who is very expensive so this would explain the delay of the announcement.
Revelian
21 Jun 2008, 10:41 AM
I see this not only as a good solid move for your club but also as great media coverage. First Black Manager in the prem is great. Being Black myself I love that this is actually happening cause its history. I think you will attract great players and he will get the very best out of them. Don't worry Rovers you will do fine.
Because you're a Tottenham fan, I hate you, but thanks for your kind words. I think anyone would have been better than JFK, but Ince is a bonus.
Revelian
dring1
21 Jun 2008, 11:09 AM
Because you're a Tottenham fan, I hate you, but thanks for your kind words. I think anyone would have been better than JFK, but Ince is a bonus.
Revelian
what is it with spurs. i dont have a problem with them apart from laughing at their fans on the way back from cardiff.