Spain-Italy Quarterfinal Euro 2008 [R]

[Gandalf The Red]

Didn't Italy win a WC on PKs a couple years ago? LOL :D


Your wrong it was a draw, italy were given the cup for some reason tho:confused:;)

[Oscar]

Didn't Italy win a WC on PKs a couple years ago? LOL :D

Apparently nobody won that WC and the cup itself is still in Germany somewhere.

[Fiorentina lives!]

Whoa whoa whoa

Italians being sensitive, huh?

First off, hey, we know Italy is still superior to England and Spain history-wise.

Two, Italy does deserve some hate:

They won the 1934 WC because it was fixed by Mussolini. plain and simple, Italy needed "help" to beat Spain and Cezchoslovaquia. All historic accounts point to it.

Italy plays the most boring brand of soccer. Italy can win a WC without even shooting at goal all tournament. Not possible? 1-0 on an own-goal in a 1st round game, two 1st round 0-0s and PKs all the way. They can do it.

Italy won in 1994 against Spain because Tassotti's punch on Luis Enrique INSIDE THE PK AREA went uncalled (that wasn't Gene Simmons blood on LE). That would have been 2-2. Tassotti got 9 games suspension and FIFA acknowledged the f-up.

What Italy y'all thought you'd win ALWAYS?

So easy. Stop being sensitive and take the heat.

[JeremyEritrea]

except your defeat as a man does.

This is why so many people hate Italy's style, if England played their way I wouldnt watch them, yet Italians love it.

Disgusting:mad:

I think he just did. And the Spanish fans and Italy haters need to stop gloating.

[Pichi]

Apparently nobody won that WC and the cup itself is still in Germany somewhere.

Hey Oscar what are the folks in the Netherlands saying about yesterdays loss to Russia?

Aupa Espanha y Viva Er Beti Manque Lopera!

La Furia Roja!!

Er Pichi

[Matto_per_calcio]

Thank you, Spain for getting rid of Italy. Now we have 4 teams in the semifinals who are willing to attack.

So long catennaccio...

So long boring, defensive football...

So long divers, cheaters, and such...

So long Italia and have a good trip back to Roma!:)

Obviously, you don't know much about football. Just jumping on the bandwagon perhaps?

Italy has not played catennaccio for a long time .. so that comment is silly.

Italy plays defensive but also offensive. Both elements exist in the Italian game.

Italy does not dive more than any other team, in fact I've seen more diving and crying from Portugual and even today with Villa (Spain, in case you are new to football). A yellow card was given in fact. Open your eyes!

Roma is a nice place! Would rather be there myself now!

Have a nice day.

[x2thez]

Football won today, where are those cocky italians now ? hahahahaha

[Pichi]

I think he just did. And the Spanish fans and Italy haters need to stop gloating.

You're wrong the Spanish fans have all the right to gloat, you know damn well it would be the same if the Italians would have won, as for the Italian haters that's another story and should be on another thread!!

Aupa Espanha y Viva Er Beti Manque Lopera!

La Furia Roja!!!

Er Pichi

[Neuwerld]

I do have to admit that England's run in the Euro 2008 has been quite impressive so far.

Oh wait, never mind.

They are undefeated and haven't conceded a goal in Euro 2008.

[drc003]

Italy's defence was amazing, and to all the 'anti-football' people out there, please understand that defence an important part of the game and nothing to be scoffed at. The ranting about about betrays a lack of knowledge of real football IMO.

First off, the people being rude and immature are not the only people complaining about Italy's anti-football. There are plenty of neutral observers with loads of football knowledge that would rather not have to sit through another match of Italy packing it in.

I'm not saying Italy have played every game ever in this manner but they have done it way too often for most neutrals. Today they were in the old 4-3-2-1 for much if not all of the game and it was pathetic. You say Italy's defense was amazing but I disagree. Amazing defense is when you play with a little more initiative and still lock down your opponent. Playing with 7-9 field players constantly behind the ball is good defense as a result of tactics. However it is also based on tactics that will leave you with very little chances to score and basically hoping you can win on pk's. It's ugly and isn't going to be appreciated by many out side of the teams fans who are employing it. Even some of the teams own fans hate it.

I've heard many complain that it's jealousy and hate. Of course there are the sad people who are like that but that is just a part of it. There are also neutrals like myself who love many of Italy's players but are bored to tears by most of their National team matches. Why does Brazil have loads of neutral fans when they are 5-time world champions?

[JeremyEritrea]

You're wrong the Spanish fans have all the right to gloat, you know damn well it would be the same if the Italians would have won, as for the Italian haters that's another story and should be on another thread!!

Aupa Espanha y Viva Er Beti Manque Lopera!

La Furia Roja!!!

Er Pichi

It's quite possible to be a gracious winner. Maybe you'll learn how some day.

Regardless, congratulations on the game. Spain deserved it more than Italy did, but it went down to the wire.

[Oscar]

Hey Oscar what are the folks in the Netherlands saying about yesterdays loss to Russia?

Aupa Espanha y Viva Er Beti Manque Lopera!

La Furia Roja!!

Er Pichi

Wondering why they suddenly didn't play as good as in their last games, but basically knowing Russia deserved to win that game. Media also used that dumb "maybe we should have played our starters in the 3rd game to not ruin the flow" reason to get at van Basten a little.

[Gandalf The Red]

I think he just did. And the Spanish fans and Italy haters need to stop gloating.

We gloat because they will be back next time doing that canta...... cintacoca.... You know that boring as crap football.

And I says its disgusting because they are one of the titans of football being as big as it is.

But they also have the talent to play so much better

[JeremyEritrea]

They are undefeated and haven't conceded a goal in Euro 2008.

Good point. :)

[x2thez]

lol, Spain made the whole world happy tonight :)

[FNU]

We gloat because they will be back next time doing that canta...... cintacoca.... You know that boring as crap football.

And I says its disgusting because they are one of the titans of football being as big as it is.

But they also have the talent to play so much better

We? Since when did you become Spanish? Is the bandwagon comfy these days?

[elvesuvio]

Congrats to Spain...
I knew if we managed to get to the PKs, we'd be done...but that is the game. It sucks to lose like this but sucks to lose at all.

Why there is even a discussion about England on this thread I don't know or understand...Maybe the English should worry about getting a decent team together and qualifying for the WC2010...its only 2 years away and you know, Beckham isn't getting any younger.;)

[-Fifth CharM-]

Italy plays defensive but also offensive. Both elements exist in the Italian game.


Come on now .. that's a lie and you know it. Since when is offensive football lobbing the ball the lone striker while defending with 10 players.


Italy does not dive more than any other team, in fact I've seen more diving and crying from Portugual and even today with Villa (Spain, in case you are new to football). A yellow card was given in fact. Open your eyes!

Di Natale was down outside the pitch but rolled back on the pitch just to stop the play. The referee didn't see anything. Spain should have been give TWO penalties in regular play. The referee didn't see anything. Toni dived several times in the Spanish box. The referee didn't see anything.

Claiming that diving & cheating isn't a important element in Italian football would be like saying there is no corruption in the Italian football or Italy in general.

[Matto_per_calcio]

First off, the people being rude and immature are not the only people complaining about Italy's anti-football. There are plenty of neutral observers with loads of football knowledge that would rather not have to sit through another match of Italy packing it in.

I'm not saying Italy have played every game ever in this manner but they have done it way too often for most neutrals. Today they were in the old 4-3-2-1 for much if not all of the game and it was pathetic. You say Italy's defense was amazing but I disagree. Amazing defense is when you play with a little more initiative and still lock down your opponent. Playing with 7-9 field players constantly behind the ball is good defense as a result of tactics. However it is also based on tactics that will leave you with very little chances to score and basically hoping you can win on pk's. It's ugly and isn't going to be appreciated by many out side of the teams fans who are employing it. Even some of the teams own fans hate it.

I've heard many complain that it's jealousy and hate. Of course there are the sad people who are like that but that is just a part of it. There are also neutrals like myself who love many of Italy's players but are bored to tears by most of their National team matches. Why does Brazil have loads of neutral fans when they are 5-time world champions?

Hey! Appreciate your comments. I did mention in my original post 'Where was the attack?' so I agree that all defence and no attack is awful. I also stated emphatically that I was disspointed in Italy. The team has a lot of talent but there is a lack of creativity and urgency. Thats the best way I can describe Italy's problem. Lack of key playeys and Donadoni's dilemenas contribute. For me I can appreciate good defencive tactics but that should not preclude good offensive playing. In my mind, you can do both (like Germany perhaps?) but we just didn't have much on the attack. There was too much caution in today's game and I saw it on both sides. It was a frustrating game to witness.

[President Ike]

I've officially purged my support of Italy as a team. I already lost some support over the past World Cup, even though they won, but, the display today just ruined my taste for the way they play as a team.

drc003, is 100% on point. I've supported Italy, but I found myself wanting Spain to win as the match went on, and as Italy has played in this tournament.

Glad to see the Spaniards defeat them and purge their string of bad luck in quarterfinals.