Poland v. Croatia [R]

[RibbyBollywood]

If only we could lend some Polish players.

Or Americans!

[BMike86]

There are Poles in South Africa, Australia and of course, the USA and Canada. If the opportunity ever arises, there may be someone in those countries that might be able to play for them sometime.

Szetela has already chosen to play for USA over Poland :rolleyes: he plays for Brescia in Serie B on loan from Racing Santander

[el_urchinio]

The way Germany has recruited Poles.

Yeah, it's really pathetic how Germany has resorted to poaching players from the Ekstraklasa in order to advance to the quarterfinals.

[BMike86]

Yeah, it's really pathetic how Germany has resorted to poaching players from the Ekstraklasa in order to advance to the quarterfinals.

lets not get into this conversation. because being Polish i don't regret any of the Polish players we may have lost to other nations. could we have done better? probably, will we ever know? no. so there is no reason to think about it longer than that

if you think Germany POACHED Podolski you are dead wrong. Podolski was born in Poland and moved to Germany at a very young age way before he could play footy. several years ago Podolski WANTED to play for Poland but the PZPN rejected him and said he wasn't good enough to play for the national team. Germany accepted him later with open arms and the rest is history. so know what you are talking about first :cool: i can't do anything about what the PZPN does to our national team

[el_urchinio]

Clearly missing the sarcasm. Germany hasn't recruited any "Poles." Every one of the players on German team is German, else they wouldn't be able to play. German citizenship may be easier to obtain today than it was 15-20 years ago, but it's not being handed out on a first-come-first-serve basis either. Whether someone has Polish ancestry or not is irrelevant. Not one player on the German team is a product of Polish football.

[Borussia]

I'm pretty surprised that Poland didn't manage to get a win against a qualified Croatia (playing a "B" team).

But well, we did not better against the Czechs in 2004...

[Pfeife]

The way Germany has recruited Poles.


This is not true and it doesn't become true by repeating it over and over again.

several years ago Podolski WANTED to play for Poland but the PZPN rejected him and said he wasn't good enough to play for the national team. Germany accepted him later with open arms and the rest is history.

also wrong.

Podolski had already played games for the German U21 before the Polish ferderation contacted him.
At no point in his career, it looked like he would play for Poland.



I'm afraid that if the Polish want good players, they will have to breed and train them themselves.

Players which grew up and were trained in Germany will rightfully continue to play for Germany.

[Gunning4Chelsea]

I'm pretty surprised that Poland didn't manage to get a win against a qualified Croatia (playing a "B" team).

But well, we did not better against the Czechs in 2004...

I wouldn't exactly call that a B team....6-7 players from that game wil be mainstays for years to come for Croatia.... We had our chances.... But could could not capitalize .... Yet again.... Played so stiff ...
and yeah I remember the Czech Germany game well.... It was michael ballack and 10 kickball players.... That marek Heinz freekick was devastating though

[BMike86]

also wrong.

Podolski had already played games for the German U21 before the Polish ferderation contacted him.
At no point in his career, it looked like he would play for Poland.


he contacted the Polish federation BEFORE he went to the German youth squad. get it right

they told him the same thing Pawel Janas (former manager of Poland) told Szetela, "we've already got hundreds of you in Poland" so Podolski went after Germany. little did the PZPN know that there aren't hundreds of Podolski's out there

[Pfeife]

he contacted the Polish federation BEFORE he went to the German youth squad. get it right

they told him the same thing Pawel Janas (former manager of Poland) told Szetela, "we've already got hundreds of you in Poland" so Podolski went after Germany. little did the PZPN know that there aren't hundreds of Podolski's out there

We already had this conversation in a different thread, where the people which were claiming that Podolski wanted to play for Poland were already proven wrong.



here you go:

"Polens Nationaltrainer hatten vergeblich versucht, die Wurzeln des Sturmduos für ihr Land zu nutzen. Bevor Klose am 24. März 2001 erstmals für Deutschland spielte, hatte Zbigniew Boniek, der Vorgänger von Pawel Janas, bei ihm in Kaiserslautern angeklopft. «Aber ich habe nicht lange darüber nachgedacht», sagte Klose. Janas war bei Podolski hartnäckiger. Drei Mal schickte er ihm polnische Nationaltrikots mit seinem Namen und der Nummer 10 - zu spät, so Podolski: «Als diese Anfrage kam, konnte ich gar nicht mehr für Polen spielen, weil ich bereits die U 21-Europameisterschaft für Deutschland gespielt hatte.»"

source:
http://www.fussball24.de/fussball/25...er-deutschland




Translation:
The polish national coaches had vainly tried to use the (Polish) roots of the striker duo for their country.
Before Klose played his first game for Germany on 24th March 2001, Zbigniew Boniek, the predecessor of Pawel Janas, had visited him in Kaiserslautern.
"But I didn't seriously consider accepting the offer." said Klose.
Janas was more persistent with Podolski.
3 times he sent him a Polish jersey with the number 10 and his name on it- too late, says Podolski.
"When this request came, I wasn't allowed to play for Poland anymore anyways, because I had already played at the U21-championship for Germany.




Janas was friggin desperate to convince Poldi to play for Poland. Not successful, obviously.

[BMike86]

source:
http://www.fussball24.de/fussball/25...er-deutschland




your first problem is taking that website seriously... so i could careless what 2nd rate site you want to show me. i'm sure there is an article on that site that says if you toss mustard on a turd sandwich it tastes good, would you eat it? do you want to show me a Bild or Daily Mirror next? :p haha

[cookiely]

he contacted the Polish federation BEFORE he went to the German youth squad. get it right

they told him the same thing Pawel Janas (former manager of Poland) told Szetela, "we've already got hundreds of you in Poland" so Podolski went after Germany. little did the PZPN know that there aren't hundreds of Podolski's out there

You are confusing Podolski with Trochowski.

Poldi has always played for the german youth squad and never thought about
playing for Poland till they contacted him and by then he was already in the german NT. Troche on the other hand contacted the polish federation but didn`t get accepted.
http://www.dfb.de/index.php?id=137&action=showPlayer&player=trochowski_piotr&lang=E&cHash=3951d9b82c

[BMike86]

You are confusing Podolski with Trochowski.

Poldi has always played for the german youth squad and never thought about
playing for Poland till they contacted him and by then he was already in the german NT. Troche on the other hand contacted the polish federation but didn`t get accepted.
http://www.dfb.de/index.php?id=137&action=showPlayer&player=trochowski_piotr&lang=E&cHash=3951d9b82c

there we go, thanks... there's too many of these variations of the stories with all these different players. its hard to keep track of whose is who :cool:

[cookiely]

there we go, thanks... there's too many of these variations of the stories with all these different players. its hard to keep track of whose is who :cool:

there aren`t many stories, every player has just one.


It just seems like the polish media seems to confuse them.
:D According to them even Bernd Schneider is polish and his original name was
Arkadiusz Skrzypiciel.

and of course there are players with polish roots in the german team. Poles are the bigest immigrant group here. Fact is they spend most their lives in germany,they went to school here, they have friends here, they learned to play football here and they play for this NT because they choose to.
Since it is a bit harder to get into the german squad then it is to get into the polish squad, they even risk never playing in a EC or WC because they choose to play for us.
I can give you quite a few names of polish rooted players that opted for germany, even though they never quite made it in the squad.

We live in a world that thrives on globalisation, you better get used to it.

[RibbyBollywood]

Polish surnamed players have even been on the French team.

But Germany has always had lots of Polish surnamed players, check out the rosters in the 1950s.

[BMike86]

there aren`t many stories, every player has just one.



there are MANY stories, trying to keep track of whose story is for who is what i was talking about. when you hear all these stories i could careless about, because regardless they either ARE or ARE NOT playing for Poland, and if the ARE NOT then there isn't much of a reason to remember it. i don't exactly number them and keep them on file somewhere for a later date


and i apologize to whomever i was talking to earlier about the Podolski story because i apparently gotten it mixed up with Trochowski. i was wrong, my bad... maybe i should number these stories and keep them on file for future reference when dealing with international competitions involving Germany/Poland :D :p

[cookiely]

Polish surnamed players have even been on the French team.

But Germany has always had lots of Polish surnamed players, check out the rosters in the 1950s.

as it has been the other way around. Jerzy Engel or Ernst Pohl come to my mind.
A large part of todays poland was once german. of course there are germans with silesian names and poles with german names. it is propably the same with
poland and ukraine. Since a large part of the ukraine was once polish

[Pfeife]

there we go, thanks... there's too many of these variations of the stories with all these different players. its hard to keep track of whose is who :cool:

Maybe you should spend more time on actually doing research about the topics you want to comment instead of writing pseudo-witty and blatantly biased posts like this one:

your first problem is taking that website seriously... so i could careless what 2nd rate site you want to show me. i'm sure there is an article on that site that says if you toss mustard on a turd sandwich it tastes good, would you eat it? do you want to show me a Bild or Daily Mirror next? haha

The source which I posted was just a random one out of 15 other ones, which all state the exact same concerning Podolski's relation with the Polish Football Association.
If you googled "Podolski Polish Football" or something along these lines yourself, you would have stumbled about numerous articles regarding this topic, but you were obviously too busy arguing on the internet and spreading your biased, yet unfounded bullshit.

[Gunning4Chelsea]

there aren`t many stories, every player has just one.


It just seems like the polish media seems to confuse them.
:D According to them even Bernd Schneider is polish and his original name was
Arkadiusz Skrzypiciel.

and of course there are players with polish roots in the german team. Poles are the bigest immigrant group here. Fact is they spend most their lives in germany,they went to school here, they have friends here, they learned to play football here and they play for this NT because they choose to.
Since it is a bit harder to get into the german squad then it is to get into the polish squad, they even risk never playing in a EC or WC because they choose to play for us.
I can give you quite a few names of polish rooted players that opted for germany, even though they never quite made it in the squad.

We live in a world that thrives on globalisation, you better get used to it.
thanks, captain obvious.

[Gunning4Chelsea]

there aren`t many stories, every player has just one.


It just seems like the polish media seems to confuse them.
:D According to them even Bernd Schneider is polish and his original name was
Arkadiusz Skrzypiciel.

and of course there are players with polish roots in the german team. Poles are the bigest immigrant group here. Fact is they spend most their lives in germany,they went to school here, they have friends here, they learned to play football here and they play for this NT because they choose to.
Since it is a bit harder to get into the german squad then it is to get into the polish squad, they even risk never playing in a EC or WC because they choose to play for us.
I can give you quite a few names of polish rooted players that opted for germany, even though they never quite made it in the squad.

We live in a world that thrives on globalisation, you better get used to it.


thanks, Captain Obvious.