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Michel_Platini
10 Jun 2008, 02:45 PM
Here are my five US players if soccer were a 5 v 5 pick up game (not in any particular order):

Landon Donovan: He get better, smarter, and seems to bring his best game at the International level.

Damarcus Beasley: Injury and age have made him better. I still would bet that he is one of the three fastest for the US squad. He still has blistering pace, but has learned that he has to be strong on the ball as well--note the play where he shielded the ball under pressure at the top of our own penalty area, and then dribbled out of danger, and maintaining possesion.

Clint Dempsey: We all want the brilliant Dempsey to show up every game--and that does not always happen. What he has is the confidence, skill, and flair to go at 2 defenders at the same time and change the game. When your team is under pressure and no one else wants/can get/or can do anything with the ball, Dempsey says 'yes I want, I can get it, and can beat you.' If you can take on two players, you will create time and space for your teammates.

Pablo Mastroeni: Year in and Year out, he shows up for the big games, against the best teams. Sure he gets red cards. I live in Denver and have been a Rapids fan forever. He does not always make an impact at the club level--people have been calling for a trade. But when you go against the top midfields in the world, there is no one better to do what Pablo does. Everyone is so excited about Michael Bradley, but that kid is so far behind Pablo as a central DMID at the international level, that there should be no confusion as to who will start against Barbados this month.

Freddy Adu: He showed in Spain that he could bring the game changing move--ie beat someone/anyone to create time and space for his teammates, when no one else was willing or able to do it. He is no Messi, or Christiano Ronaldo. He doesn't have to be. He can be Freddy. And he will grow into one of the best playmaking/attacking midfielders/ withdrawn forwards in the game.

When those five were on the field--and even after Pablo left--they were dynamic, dangerous, and attacking. Johnson didn't make my five because he needs to become a prolific finisher. Edu and Sasha are promising, and Robbie Rogers reminds me of a younger Beasley--using shear speed to create opportunities.

So by my count that puts us half way there to being able to contend with anyone,

Kevin8833
10 Jun 2008, 03:30 PM
Adu, Donovan, Edu, Altidore, and Bradley. My team would will take on any US 5 vs. 5 you want:D

USvsIRELAND
10 Jun 2008, 03:47 PM
Parkhurst
Cherundolo
Donovan
Adu
Altidore

wooglin12
10 Jun 2008, 04:30 PM
EJ
EJ
EJ
EJ
Agoos

Tmagic77
10 Jun 2008, 04:30 PM
Adu, Donovan, Feilhaber, Parkhurst, Spector.

cc-atl
10 Jun 2008, 04:41 PM
Donovan, Adu, Beasley, Mapp, Cherundolo

Dolo -------- Beasley
Adu -------- Mapp
---Donovan-----


Admit it. Your jealous you did not think of Mapp for this format, right? :)

ugaaccountant
10 Jun 2008, 04:57 PM
Going with a 2-2-1 concept

Dempsey - I know he's not in form right now but he's ideal for being the guy dribbling at the net for a small sided game.

Adu - Donovan - obvious mids for small side as they are our best at controlling the ball and passing

Bradley - Spector - Best defenders for such a match as they are quick, agressive and pass well. Pearce is another thought, if he has a long range shot i'd like him.

USvsIRELAND
10 Jun 2008, 05:05 PM
Going with a 2-2-1 concept
Dempsey - I know he's not in form right now but he's ideal for being the guy dribbling at the net for a small sided game.


Can't believe I forgot about Dempsey.

Dempsey
Donovan Adu
Parkhurst Dolo

All strong guys who have good ball control and play smart, quick soccer.

Mr Martin
10 Jun 2008, 06:14 PM
3-2 "formation".


-----Adu--Donovan----

Beasley---Edu---Rogers


It's 5v5. No need for any pure defenders. Just mobile guys who can defend and are active and quick. We'll pass and move and combo you to death.

sidefootsitter
10 Jun 2008, 06:23 PM
2-1-2

---'Dolo----Bradley--

-------Adu---------

Dempsey----Altidore

Mr Martin
10 Jun 2008, 06:25 PM
2-1-2

---'Dolo----Bradley--

-------Adu---------

Dempsey----Altidore

Hmm, for a guy who often talks about the value of speed, I'm surprised by your five.

sidefootsitter
10 Jun 2008, 06:27 PM
You don't need much speed in a short 5 v. 5.

You need someone capable of turning his marker and holding the ball under pressure because he can be double teamed right away.

In other words, a David Villa over El Nino Torres.

Mr Martin
10 Jun 2008, 06:33 PM
You don't need much speed in a short 5 v. 5.

You need someone capable of turning his marker and holding the ball under pressure because he can be double teamed right away.

In other words, a David Villa over El Nino Torres.

You don't need your three 6'1" and taller guys either. Not much crossing/heading in a 5v5 game; mostly ground passes and quick movement with combination play. Bradley, as much as I do like his long-term potential for the 11v11 Nat's, does not strike me as an ideal 5v5 guy. Dempsey's iffy, too. Tall and lanky seems ill-suited.

sidefootsitter
10 Jun 2008, 06:35 PM
I went for the top ball handlers, regardless of their size or speed.

Mr Martin
10 Jun 2008, 06:49 PM
I went for the top ball handlers, regardless of their size or speed.

Not unreasonable. No argument.

I went for quickness, balance, and off-the-ball movement, plus Adu's touch and vision.