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1shot1kill
16 Jun 2008, 12:22 AM
I think looking at statistics from the past doesn't mean a thing, look at Italy, Holland has not beaten Italy in 30 years and everybody expects them to lose or get a draw at best and boom: 3-0. France is a supposedly great football country, however the statistics show that Holland has a good record against France too and has beaten them more often than the other around.

Bernabeu
16 Jun 2008, 09:54 AM
Spain might have history, but Spain also has class players. As class as any other side in the tournament. Yes, as a longtime Red Sox fan I understand what that pressure can do, but I also know that in soccer, a team with world-quality players can win any given day.

And a team with David Villa and Fernando Torres as strikers can offensively explode any given day.

Well... of course you never know, but... do you want to bet?;)

Amsteldam
16 Jun 2008, 09:59 AM
I think looking at statistics from the past doesn't mean a thing, look at Italy, Holland has not beaten Italy in 30 years and everybody expects them to lose or get a draw at best and boom: 3-0. France is a supposedly great football country, however the statistics show that Holland has a good record against France too and has beaten them more often than the other around.
Italy has only beaten us in friendlies mostly (2 years ago they beat us 3-1)
But in major tournaments Italy has never beaten us and never even scored a goal (in regulation time).

We beat Italy 2-0 in 1978
We tied them 0-0 in Euro 2000 (but they won the PK's)
And of course this Euro we won 3-0

So past statistics do mean something IMO

1shot1kill
16 Jun 2008, 11:37 AM
Well then I bring up the statistic that Italy had never lost their first game at a Eurocup until this one. :p

Amsteldam
16 Jun 2008, 05:28 PM
Well then I bring up the statistic that Italy had never lost their first game at a Eurocup until this one.
But thats because they never played Holland their first game :p

jk ;)