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Borussia
13 Jun 2008, 02:22 PM
Wow, what a great game! :eek: :) The best so far in my eyes (even better than "Italy vs Holland").

Kudos to both teams for presenting us such an entertaining match!


PS: Gigi (what a sensational pk save) & Lobont were superb.
Colm
13 Jun 2008, 02:23 PM
Good game, lots of drama, would say a draw was a fair result in the end.
seadondo
13 Jun 2008, 02:24 PM
Well, it was at the moment it was kicked, and I know what I saw.

But I refuse to debate with fans, it's pointless.

Watch the video I posted in post #195, and you'll see that at the 0:18 second mark in the video, Toni is clearly in an onside position when the ball is passed to him.
Suyuntuy
13 Jun 2008, 02:27 PM
Was Del Piero part of the play? He's the one who was clearly offside, although that angle is quite bad to see clearly if someone else was.
Borussia
13 Jun 2008, 02:27 PM
So far this group, that on paper should be the strongest, is producing some of the worst play in the tournament.


If you refer to the games "Holland vs Italy" or "Italy vs Romania", I advice you to buy some glasses or get new ones! :rolleyes: :p
code1390
13 Jun 2008, 02:27 PM
Was Del Piero part of the play? He's the one who was clearly offside, although that angle is quite bad to see clearly if someone else was.

He didn't make a play at the ball.
Colm
13 Jun 2008, 02:27 PM
It looked as if no one was offside in the goal, Toni was a yard or two onside.
Pit-182
13 Jun 2008, 02:28 PM
Guys I was thinking... what happens if:
- France beat the dutch tonight
- Italy beat France in the last game

At that point they are all 4 points, right? Ok, now let's assume that holland in the last game beat romania

holland 6
france 4
italy 4
romania 2

The one who go through is Italy or France?
Suyuntuy
13 Jun 2008, 02:29 PM
Italy, because head-to-head comes before goal diff.
graywolfe81
13 Jun 2008, 02:29 PM
Good game, lots of drama, would say a draw was a fair result in the end.

Agreed. Romania had their heartbreaks, hitting the post, miracle penalty save, and Italy had theirs: offside goal was legit, loads of chances generated not finished well or beautifully saved, and some horrible freaking cynical dives that negated any argument that they were treated unfairly by the refs (if they were willing to cheat to get the result they wanted AND THEY WERE, the room for an argument that somehow they were cheated (when they were trying to cheat) holds little water).
Chess_Panther
13 Jun 2008, 02:29 PM
Guys I was thinking... what happens if:
- France beat the dutch tonight
- Italy beat France in the last game

At that point they are all 4 points, right? Ok, now let's assume that holland in the last game beat romania

holland 6
france 4
italy 4
romania 2

The one who go through is Italy or France?

Italy
1shot1kill
13 Jun 2008, 02:30 PM
Whoever has the best goal difference.


If equal then it's Penalties as may happen in group A Sunday.
code1390
13 Jun 2008, 02:31 PM
Whoever has the best goal difference.


If equal then it's Penalties as may happen in group A Sunday.

Head to head is the first tie breaker. If Italy beats France...they hold the tiebreaker.
Suyuntuy
13 Jun 2008, 02:31 PM
Good game? Entertaining, yes. But too many missed passes for my taste, and just kicking the ball away from the area by the Romanians.
canzano55
13 Jun 2008, 02:32 PM
Good game, lots of drama, would say a draw was a fair result in the end.I don't think Romania deserved anything from this game.
seadondo
13 Jun 2008, 02:32 PM
Whoever has the best goal difference.


If equal then it's Penalties as may happen in group A Sunday.

No. First is head to head, and then goal-difference.
Borussia
13 Jun 2008, 02:32 PM
Canadian TV showed the replay in slow-mo and Toni was more than a foot offside.

I think you really need some (new) glasses...:eek: ;)



Didn't Mutu get the Romanian's goal still? Save the Dramatics Please!

He should have shot, uppershelf in hindsight, but it's over and it should not bother the lad.

It's good that he missed that pk ... cause the call was a joke in my eyes! :rolleyes:
TheGrimSweeper
13 Jun 2008, 02:33 PM
Good game? Entertaining, yes. But too many missed passes for my taste, and just kicking the ball away from the area by the Romanians.

Is this your first time watching Futbol? Some of the posts you make.. I dont know.
Suyuntuy
13 Jun 2008, 02:34 PM
He didn't make a play at the ball.
In the WC a goal by the USA against Italy was disallowed because a US player was blocking the view of the Italian keeper. So "being part of the play" involves more than making a play at the ball.

I'm doubtful about this one.
code1390
13 Jun 2008, 02:37 PM
In the WC a goal by the USA against Italy was disallowed because a US player was blocking the view of the Italian keeper. So "being part of the play" involves more than making a play at the ball.

I'm doubtful about this one.

Yes. Interfering with play, interfering with an opponent, and gaining an advantage by being in an offside position, if you want to be specific.

I don't even think Perotta was offside, but was even with 2LD. Even if he was slightly offside, he didn't interfere with play, IMO.

http://www.d1g.com/video/show/2047828