View Full Version : Wahl's Five Things we learned from Argentina
Lloyd Heilbrunn
09 Jun 2008, 11:48 AM
http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/202318
shooter6065
09 Jun 2008, 11:52 AM
didn't somebody already start a thread on this?
Lloyd Heilbrunn
09 Jun 2008, 12:01 PM
Where?? I only see the similiar Spain one...
USvsIRELAND
09 Jun 2008, 12:01 PM
It may seem crazy to some folks, but if Bob Bradley is going to continue to play two holding midfielders, I'd start Adu in the central midfield with Donovan on the right, Beasley on the left and Dempsey up top (at least until Jozy Altidore is healthy again).
Please!
Oguchi Onyewu is Mr. Plus/Minus.
Gooch is better without Boca beside him.
DaMarcus Beasley’s knee remains a concern. Yet this Beasley just didn’t have that burst of speed in him.
Agreed. Beas was always a speed guy and when he doesn't have that he's just not as effective.
I can’t think of any U.S. player who has a bigger difference of responsibilities between his positions at club and country than Michael Bradley. Why don’t we ever see the guy who scored 19 club goals last season doing anything remotely similar in a U.S. jersey?
If this question could be answered we would improve dramatically. Bob needs to figure out what is going on.
Dempsey was slightly better than he was in a bad outing against Spain, but he still hasn’t had a stand-out game for the U.S. in quite a while.
Sadly true. But he's not a winger! Play him centrally!
Overall good article by Grant Wahl.
shooter6065
09 Jun 2008, 12:40 PM
Where?? I only see the similiar Spain one...
My bad
Marko72
09 Jun 2008, 12:51 PM
It's not exactly soccer analysis, but I'm surprised that nobody else mentioned that our whites vs Arg's blue-and-white stripes were a bit of a kit clash, at the very least on TV. It was a hard game to watch because of it. One of us should've worn a dark kit.
Marko72
09 Jun 2008, 12:53 PM
Sadly true. But he's not a winger! Play him centrally!
Remember a few months ago when a little over 50% of the board was saying that Dempsey needs to go back to his "natural" right midfielder role and Donovan needs to play centrally up top?
Martin Fischer
09 Jun 2008, 01:11 PM
...Sadly true. But he's not a winger! Play him centrally!
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Dempsey's not a winger? Isn't that where he plays for Fullham more times than not? And isn't the last time he played center midfield years ago with New England?
Better answer is that Dempsey is simply not enjoying much of a run of form at present.
Monkey Boy
09 Jun 2008, 01:46 PM
Dempsey's not a winger? Isn't that where he plays for Fullham more times than not? And isn't the last time he played center midfield years ago with New England?
Better answer is that Dempsey is simply not enjoying much of a run of form at present.
I agree. Dempsey is worn out from a long season and tough battle with Fulham. He had to be the man for Fulham for a long time while the team suffered through many tough injuries. Then he was continued to be a significant player when the others came back and fought to stay up.
Dempsey needs some time off. He's fully capable of playing out wide right or being one of the 3 in the 4-2-3-1. He's even capable of being the 1 striker in that formation. It's just time that he gets a break.
USvsIRELAND
09 Jun 2008, 02:15 PM
Dempsey's not a winger? Isn't that where he plays for Fullham more times than not? And isn't the last time he played center midfield years ago with New England?
Better answer is that Dempsey is simply not enjoying much of a run of form at present.
He can play right midfield.
He's not a winger.
He hasn't been enjoying a run of form since scoring against Liverpool last year.
sidefootsitter
09 Jun 2008, 02:47 PM
I learned that Wahl still hasn't a clue.
USvsIRELAND
09 Jun 2008, 02:51 PM
I learned that Wahl still hasn't a clue.
Elaborate a bit.
cleansheetbsc
09 Jun 2008, 03:03 PM
It's not exactly soccer analysis, but I'm surprised that nobody else mentioned that our whites vs Arg's blue-and-white stripes were a bit of a kit clash, at the very least on TV. It was a hard game to watch because of it. One of us should've worn a dark kit.
At the stadium, and from the upper deck at that, it was easy to tell the shirts apart. When I rewatched the match this morning, it was the TV that made it difficult to tell. That said, one team should have worn the alternate shirt.
cc-atl
09 Jun 2008, 03:09 PM
It's not exactly soccer analysis, but I'm surprised that nobody else mentioned that our whites vs Arg's blue-and-white stripes were a bit of a kit clash, at the very least on TV. It was a hard game to watch because of it. One of us should've worn a dark kit.
I agree. I had to use their shorts to tell them apart at times.
Martin Fischer
09 Jun 2008, 03:13 PM
He can play right midfield.
He's not a winger.
He hasn't been enjoying a run of form since scoring against Liverpool last year.
I agree that he is not contributing now and I could see not using him against Barbados for sure. But, it's not about positions as he has played two positions for Fullham (and for the Revs prior to that for the last year there) -- forward and outside mid. He has not played center mid for a while.
oldguyfc
09 Jun 2008, 03:26 PM
Dempsey's not a winger? Isn't that where he plays for Fullham more times than not? And isn't the last time he played center midfield years ago with New England?
Better answer is that Dempsey is simply not enjoying much of a run of form at present.
I have to agree with this, Dempsey is a substitute right now until he proves otherwise. He did more yesterday, and the previous 2 games to stop, any move forward. He just isn't playing instinctively well right now.
sidefootsitter
09 Jun 2008, 04:57 PM
Elaborate a bit.
He concentrates on tertiary issues and misses the elephant in the room.
That's sucky journalism (though this one came off his blog).
gaucho
09 Jun 2008, 10:59 PM
Can't remember where I read it, but I think the reason why the game started late was that the Argentines insisted on wearing their blue and white kits and not the dark blues, which was supposed to be the agreement.
Soccer Obsession
09 Jun 2008, 11:04 PM
I thought it was a good article. I agreed with most of what he said.
galaxyfan03
10 Jun 2008, 12:02 AM
Very good article & I agree with pretty much everything Grant said!! I'll just add this article link...in terms of what's our MAIN problem, because it's right on the money & speaks volumes of why it's SOOO frustrating to be a USMNT fan!!
http://www.yanks-abroad.com/get.php?mode=content&id=3907