Talent Scout: Winners/Losers [R]

[Excape Goat]

List of playes who did good or bad? Who got to showcase his talents? and who did miss his chances to shine?

Match Day 1
Winners
Pepe
Bosingwa
Václav Svěrkoš(he was great before he scored.
João Moutinho
Servet Çetin?

Losers
Alexander Frei(because he is out and failed to showcase his talents)
Jan Koller(the end?)
Paulo Ferreira
Ricardo Quaresma
Gökhan Zan
Kazım Kazım(plenty of ball, but nothing to show for)

[sportscribe]

Kazim-Richards was one the better players on the Turkish team. At times he was very isolated, and didn't always have an outlet, but we was very composed and comfortable on the ball, and hardly gave it up. He gave Paulo a bit of trouble on occassions and Carvs was forced to double team him. He's a winner for me.

Also, add Plasil to the same list. Incredibly skillfull player who had a few moments to show his technique. He's like Hleb with more strength.

[The Potter]

Winner-

Gelson Fernandes (really like this kid, always open and available.)

Loser-

Tranquillo Barnetta:

[Val1]

Fully agree with Cervet (Turkey). Played very well, strong in the middle and moved outside smoothly. Also agree that Ferriera sucked, but then, he's been unimpressive for years...

[Cris 09]

List of playes who did good or bad? Who got to showcase his talents? and who did miss his chances to shine?



Losers
Alexander Frei(because he is out and failed to showcase his talents)Jan

Definetly not a winner due to missing out on the rest of the tourney through injury but during the 42 minutes he was on he DID show how talented he is and the Swiss team were very, very dangerous with him leading them. Would disagree on "failed to showcase his talents."

[Excape Goat]

Definetly not a winner due to missing out on the rest of the tourney through injury but during the 42 minutes he was on he DID show how talented he is and the Swiss team were very, very dangerous with him leading them. Would disagree on "failed to showcase his talents."

He played very well. Indeed, he was perhaps the MOTM until his injury.

More....

Winners
Austria: they can still get out of this group. Althrough thet chance is very slim, Poland and Germany should take notice.

Losers
Croatia: I am concerned about their match fitness. I doubt that they can handle the Germans & the Poles. History showed that the winner of a match might not qualify ahead of the losing team.

[lanman]

Croatia: I am concerned about their match fitness. I doubt that they can handle the Germans & the Poles. History showed that the winner of a match might not qualify ahead of the losing team.

Their main problem is up front. Their two starters today worked hard, but aren't goalscorers and don't seem to consistantly take up the best positions, meaning that any good work from their midfield (which I think is very well balanced and their strong point) is generally wasted. The substitute striker (Budan I think) was terrible. I also doubt whether their defence is good enough against top quality opposition or pace.

[Val1]

I don't watch any Bundesliga, and I've read about the problems Podolski has had keeping his first team place, but at the international level, he is simply the most consistent scorer in the world the past 2-3 years. Simple tap-in on a strong supporting run (like the one Gomez missed) and cannon on the rebound. While the Poles played hard and brightly today, Podolski was the difference.

[Cris 09]

I don't watch any Bundesliga, and I've read about the problems Podolski has had keeping his first team place, but at the international level, he is simply the most consistent scorer in the world the past 2-3 years. Simple tap-in on a strong supporting run (like the one Gomez missed) and cannon on the rebound. While the Poles played hard and brightly today, Podolski was the difference.

Podolski's problem keeping a 1st team spot at Bayern is that he compete's against Luca Toni and Klose.

[YiddoYiddoYiddo]

Croatia's players have superb technical ability but lack organization defensively and a forward offensively.

What's up with Poland's high line? They played great team defense otherwise, but severely lacked a good offensive transition.

[Rainer24]

Croatia's players have superb technical ability but lack organization defensively and a forward offensively.

What's up with Poland's high line? They played great team defense otherwise, but severely lacked a good offensive transition.


who do you know and fear from their midfield?

[Excape Goat]

Podolski's problem keeping a 1st team spot at Bayern is that he compete's against Luca Toni and Klose.

But he had problems before the arrival of Toni and Klose.


Last night

Winners
Podolski
Fritz(I have never seen this guy before last night)
Klose(what a great passer)

Losers
Gomez

[Leinad]

But he had problems before the arrival of Toni and Klose.

its because Bayern (Magath/Hitzfeld) never used him properly and simply didnt put the trust in him (someone like Santa Cruz was after the WC prefered over him by Magath, absolute joke) which he has at the NT, he is simply wasted.
I hope that changes next season with Klinsmann but maybe a new club is the best for him.


Last night

Winners
Podolski
Fritz(I have never seen this guy before last night)
Klose(what a great passer)

Losers
Gomez

Fritz is since 2 years RB for Bremen so i think you have seen him without noticing it. ;)
He normaly doesnt play in midfield but in his younger days he was a striker and his offensive abilities are anyways better than his defensive ones.
I also wouldnt call Gomez a loser. Well maybe considering the expectations but he had a solid game. His finishing was not like i/we know it but he gave the great pass which lead to the 1:0.
The only real loser on the german side is Schweinsteiger who lost his place in the first eleven.

[The Potter]

I also wouldnt call Gomez a loser. Well maybe considering the expectations but he had a solid game. His finishing was not like i/we know it but he gave the great pass which lead to the 1:0.
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After all the praise lavished on him I thought Gomez was a slight let down. Doesn't look in Benzema's class.

Still a good player but not the phenom I was anticipating.

[Cris 09]

After all the praise lavished on him I thought Gomez was a slight let down. Doesn't look in Benzema's class.

Still a good player but not the phenom I was anticipating.

it's one game, man!!!

[Rainer24]

It wasn't Gomez's best match, but he made the most important play in the buildup to the first goal, winning the ball and finding Klose with a good pass, who then set up Podolski with a tap in.


He could have taken his own chance better, but he wasn't terrible.

[The Potter]

Losers:

-Ribery
-Domenech
-international football (dismal tournament so far)

Winners :

-Zinedine Zidane

[meininki]

After all the praise lavished on him I thought Gomez was a slight let down. Doesn't look in Benzema's class.

Still a good player but not the phenom I was anticipating.
I actually thought Gomez looked much better than Benzema. But then, we really shouldn't judge them on one game...

[The Potter]

I actually thought Gomez looked much better than Benzema.

My post was made before todays match, I'd seen Benz before in the CL and he's
a top player. He was piss poor today, definitely in the loser section.

But then, we really shouldn't judge them on one game..

Isn't that what this thread is about?

[lanman]

Losers:

-Ribery
-Domenech
-international football (dismal tournament so far)

Winners :

-Zinedine Zidane

France (with Zidane) were just as poor in the group stages at the last World Cup.