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Beech
13 Aug 2002, 11:41 AM
Due out tomorrow Wed 8/14/02.

Here:
http://www.fifa.com/rank/index_E.html

Predictions:
-Brazil stays on top (obviously).
-Germany could eclipse France, Spain, and Argentina but then again this is the FIFA rankings.
-Should be interesting to see how far Portugal's slide continues.
-Does Italy drop out of the top 10?
-Does the US crack the top 10?
-Why is Columbia still in the top 10?

I still don't know why FIFA tracks games from 8 years ago in their formula. Players, coaches and results from 8 years ago are not that relavant to a teams current potential.

Discuss...

Prenn
14 Aug 2002, 06:51 AM
US joint 9th with Italy

England joint 7th with Portugal

Spain take 3rd place, Argentina take 2nd and France drop to 4th.

1) Brazil
2) Argentina
3) Spain
4) France
5) Germany
6) Mexico
=7) England
=7) Portugal
=9) Italy
=9) US
11) Turkey

AFCA
14 Aug 2002, 07:19 AM
I think the FIFA rankings are b.s. anyway. Looking at the past 8 years.... who really thinks that Spain, Mexico, USA or Turkey are better then for instance Holland?

Apart from that... what's the big deal about being number 1 or number 20 on the list? It won't get you anything.

Prenn
14 Aug 2002, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by AFCA
I think the FIFA rankings are b.s. anyway. Looking at the past 8 years.... who really thinks that Spain, Mexico, USA or Turkey are better then for instance Holland?

Apart from that... what's the big deal about being number 1 or number 20 on the list? It won't get you anything.

Indeed.

Sweden 20th :rolleyes:

pololo
14 Aug 2002, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by AFCA
I think the FIFA rankings are b.s. anyway. Looking at the past 8 years.... who really thinks that Spain, Mexico, USA or Turkey are better then for instance Holland?

Apart from that... what's the big deal about being number 1 or number 20 on the list? It won't get you anything.

I don't know about Mexico and USA bout Turkey and Spain are better than Holland at this moment.

AFCA
14 Aug 2002, 10:09 AM
Holland beat Spain in a friendly before the WC. It might not mean anything since it's just a friendly.

Turkey has a nice team, but Holland is definitely better. Spain, same story... Spain has never been stronger than Holland for the last 14 years.

Raider Red
14 Aug 2002, 11:11 AM
Considering these rankings help determine seeds for the next World Cup, I'd say they mean a hell of a lot. That doesn't mean they aren't flawed, though.

Could someone resurrect the "can the US be seeded next World Cup" discussion? Wondering if the US jump to 9th means anything. Thanks.

kevruth
14 Aug 2002, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by AFCA
I think the FIFA rankings are b.s. anyway. Looking at the past 8 years.... who really thinks that Spain, Mexico, USA or Turkey are better then for instance Holland?

Apart from that... what's the big deal about being number 1 or number 20 on the list? It won't get you anything.

Hey, at least Columbia is out of the top ten. They didn't even play in the World Cup. Columbia's first ranking after the World Cup was probably the biggest joke.

pololo
14 Aug 2002, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by kevruth


Hey, at least Columbia is out of the top ten. They didn't even play in the World Cup. Columbia's first ranking after the World Cup was probably the biggest joke.

Why?

They played outstanding in the Copa America without letting in a goal,that's a perfect stat.

And they had bad luck in the South American qualifiers.

jamisont
14 Aug 2002, 09:26 PM
How did this happen??
NewZealand ranked 83rd dec 01, 88th july 02, and 47th in Aug 02 in just 1 month?
What did New Zealand do last month?

FunGuy
14 Aug 2002, 09:47 PM
NZ won the OFC nations cup, beating australia in the final, and continetal championships have the 2nd highest value after the world cup, and each confederation is weighted differently, with the OFC having the lowest weight

puma182
25 Aug 2002, 09:51 PM
I agree that Sweden's ranking [20] is not deserved.

I am proud of the Turkish teams slow climb to the ranks of the elite, but Sweden does have a better head to head record against all of England, Turkey AND Argentina in the last 12 months.

Now only if they hadn't lost to Senegal ...

Sachin
26 Aug 2002, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Raider Red
Considering these rankings help determine seeds for the next World Cup, I'd say they mean a hell of a lot. That doesn't mean they aren't flawed, though.

Could someone resurrect the "can the US be seeded next World Cup" discussion? Wondering if the US jump to 9th means anything. Thanks.

Check the USA Men's forum.

Sachin

deejay
26 Aug 2002, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by AFCA
Holland beat Spain in a friendly before the WC. It might not mean anything since it's just a friendly.

Turkey has a nice team, but Holland is definitely better. Spain, same story... Spain has never been stronger than Holland for the last 14 years.

How is the Netherlands better than Spain and Turkey?

They lost to Ireland and Portugal when it counted. Those two teams weren't better than Spain an Turkey in the WC.

Super Hamatachi redded
27 Aug 2002, 01:17 AM
mexico 6? colombia & yugo 15?? hello?

MarioKempes
31 Aug 2002, 05:12 AM
Originally posted by AFCA
Holland beat Spain in a friendly before the WC. It might not mean anything since it's just a friendly.

Turkey has a nice team, but Holland is definitely better. Spain, same story... Spain has never been stronger than Holland for the last 14 years.

Spain beat Ireland. Shame that Holland couldn't.

silahsiz kuvvet
14 Sep 2002, 11:20 PM
How can Mexico USA and Portugal be ahead of TURKIYE. What kind of a ranking is this. Which Portugese team had the UEFA cup. When did these teams become third in the world cup. Come on lets be real.

Belgian guy
15 Sep 2002, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by AFCA
Holland beat Spain in a friendly before the WC. It might not mean anything since it's just a friendly.

Turkey has a nice team, but Holland is definitely better. Spain, same story... Spain has never been stronger than Holland for the last 14 years.

Yep, Holland is so strong they failed to even qualify for the world cup...

Fender playa
15 Sep 2002, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by silahsiz kuvvet
How can Mexico USA and Portugal be ahead of TURKIYE. What kind of a ranking is this. Which Portugese team had the UEFA cup. When did these teams become third in the world cup. Come on lets be real.

(PORTUGAL CAME 3RD IN 1966, 3RD IN EURO 2000 AND IF IM NOT mistaken beat turkey 2-0 and SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THOUGH)

hope that answers ur question.oh and benfica won the uefa cup twice and lost 3 times in the finals.......sporting won once and porto won once...............:rolleyes:

But what amazes me is how mexico and USA is ahead ooof turkey...........even through what i just said ,thats...................wrong

silahsiz kuvvet
15 Sep 2002, 06:46 PM
Benfica got those cups before we were born in 60s this list is the actual list which depends on the recent years. Yeah they played the semi game for Euro cup but we just played a world semi a month ago. If Brazil is ahead of France then we should be ahead of Portugal.