Scottish striker doing well in MLS

[Jasonma]

Tam McManus now has 3 goals in 4 starts, including in back-to-back starts the last two weeks, for the Colorado Rapids.

[st mirren till i die]

well done to him because he was utterly stinking when he played in scotland :p

[YankHibee]

That isn't really fair, he was very promising when he was young, and has had a few very respectable seasons. I won't deny that he's had some worthless seasons in there too. Had Riordan and O'Connor not formed such an effective relationship, I would have expected him to be a first teamer for Hibs for several seasons.

[Red Sky]

Good for Tam. Perhaps the signposts for the Last Chance Saloon got his attention.

Colorado is a great place. I'd laugh at stadium called Dick's Sporting Goods Park but I've been in it and it's brilliant.

[Gordon EF]

I really did like Tam McManus when he played for East Fife in 2000, I thought he would go on and become a reallt good player at Hibs so I'm glad he's doing well in America.

His cousin Paul, just picked up a championship medal at East Fife too!:)

[Jasonma]

Colorado is a great place. I'd laugh at stadium called Dick's Sporting Goods Park but I've been in it and it's brilliant.

I was in it on Sunday and I still laugh at the name. The supporters just call it The Dick.

[Scottish_Morton]

Any time McManus threatened to look like a good player he would play pish for just about long enough to let everyone forget about it. A decent player when he can be bothered, maybe the slower pace of MLS will suit his style more. Had a rank season in the First division after a decent end to an SPL season, that just about sums him up...

[Gordon EF]

, maybe the slower pace of MLS will suit his style more. .

I think you could be right. He's obviously a player who can get bullied out of games when his attitude isn't right. With a little bit more time on the ball and a little bit more space, I think he's the type of player who'd do a bit better.

[st mirren till i die]

so does the success of deuchar and tam the bam signify that MLS is still about scottish first division level?

[celtic76]

so does the success of deuchar and tam the bam signify that MLS is still about scottish first division level?

You would be correct, why else is Donovon looked at as a superstar :rolleyes:

[Jasonma]

I think you could be right. He's obviously a player who can get bullied out of games when his attitude isn't right. With a little bit more time on the ball and a little bit more space, I think he's the type of player who'd do a bit better.

You should check out his goal from this past weekend. No space, just headed the ball to his feet and squeezed it past the keeper inside the near post.

so does the success of deuchar and tam the bam signify that MLS is still about scottish first division level?

Deuchar and Tam aren't successes in MLS. McManus is doing well for the Rapids, who had the second worst offense in MLS last season and who's high scorer had 6 goals in 30 games, 4 of which we PK's. McManus has 3 goals in 7 games which is passible, but not great. Deuchar is a borderline failure right now with only 2 goals in 10 games.

Admittedly my experience in watching 1st Division Socttish soccer is limited to the Scottish Cup semi-final and final that Queens played in, but I feel pretty confident that a MLS team would get promoted from the first division.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

McManus always has a good start and then disappears off the face of the earth until he needs a new contract.

[Dalglish]

Any time McManus threatened to look like a good player he would play pish for just about long enough to let everyone forget about it. A decent player when he can be bothered, maybe the slower pace of MLS will suit his style more. Had a rank season in the First division after a decent end to an SPL season, that just about sums him up...

Does the fact that Demarcus Beasley has gone from Fort Wayne, Indiana to MLS to the EPL & SPL mean that the MLS is on par with the EPL and SPL? How did Andy Dorman do at St. Mirren after college soccer in the US and many years in the MLS?

David Weir spent 1988-91 in Evansville, Indiana playing college soccer - does that mean US college soccer is a good training ground for future Old Firm players?

Many more Yanks would be playing in the SPL if they could get a work permit. Only those restrictions are preventing even more Scots from being brushed aside by better players from elsewhere. (Before anyone gets angry with me I am Scottish and a Scotland supporter).

Unless they play one another and unless players are allowed to freely move between clubs it is hard to compare the leagues.

[Gordon EF]

Does the fact that Demarcus Beasley has gone from Fort Wayne, Indiana to MLS to the EPL & SPL mean that the MLS is on par with the EPL and SPL? How did Andy Dorman do at St. Mirren after college soccer in the US and many years in the MLS?

David Weir spent 1988-91 in Evansville, Indiana playing college soccer - does that mean US college soccer is a good training ground for future Old Firm players?

Many more Yanks would be playing in the SPL if they could get a work permit. Only those restrictions are preventing even more Scots from being brushed aside by better players from elsewhere. (Before anyone gets angry with me I am Scottish and a Scotland supporter).

Unless they play one another and unless players are allowed to freely move between clubs it is hard to compare the leagues.

I'm not sure if you're responding to Scottish Morton's comment or not. I thought SM's comment was very fair and wasn't having a go at MLS. We've seen it in Scotland, some good players have come and just not adapted to the style. It wasn't the quality that got them, it was just that they didn't fit in to the way the games played here.

The pase of the game in MLS is slower than in Scotland. That doesn't neccesarily mean that it's worse.

[Red Sky]

I was in it on Sunday and I still laugh at the name. The supporters just call it The Dick.

:D:D But never on a Sunday!

[Red Sky]

so does the success of deuchar and tam the bam signify that MLS is still about scottish first division level?


Without the sh*t weather, poor food, infantile licensing laws, semi-incestuous establishment :rolleyes: and fat Old Firm plebs who can't afford to go to their away games.

It doesn't have relegation, the Shire will love it. It doesn't have promotion, the SPL will love it.

;)

[Red Sky]

Many more Yanks would be playing in the SPL if they could get a work permit.


Not just the SPL I'll wager.

[Scottish_Morton]

Yeah, I wasn't really commenting on the quality of MLS, more the fluctuating quality of Tam McManus. MLS being slower than the SPL isn't necessarily a bad thing, Scottish football is far too quick (not enough short passing or time on the ball, too much pressing/rushing).

Scottish football has gone down the foreign root before, I doubt it would again. A few here and there is enough, and the 6/5 rule would be a great thing (not that it would matter much to just about any club at the moment). I don't know why more Americans don't play in Scottish football, surely there are plenty with European family? Morton have had 4 Aussies recently, why no yanks?

Like I said, I wasn't commenting on the quality of MLS, just the style.

[RealC1]

Yeah, I wasn't really commenting on the quality of MLS, more the fluctuating quality of Tam McManus. MLS being slower than the SPL isn't necessarily a bad thing, Scottish football is far too quick (not enough short passing or time on the ball, too much pressing/rushing).

Scottish football has gone down the foreign root before, I doubt it would again. A few here and there is enough, and the 6/5 rule would be a great thing (not that it would matter much to just about any club at the moment). I don't know why more Americans don't play in Scottish football, surely there are plenty with European family? Morton have had 4 Aussies recently, why no yanks?

Like I said, I wasn't commenting on the quality of MLS, just the style.

Nae bother, understood. I wasn't trying to argue just adding info for comparison's sake.

As I mentioned, many more Americans would be playing in Scotland if not for the work permit restrictions. Andy Dorman is English born so it was no prob for him to get a permit. I was told that he got quite a pay rise by leaving MLS.

There are now more than 100 Yanks playing professionally in Europe but most play in countries where it is easier to get a work permit. If it were easier in Scotland and England you'd see more Yanks there.

Tom Parratt has done well at Hamilton despite a few injuries. He was born in Inverness but raised in Iowa, USA. The level of play in the US is on the rise but it will be another 10 years or so before the USA is a legit world top 20 team.

[Dills]

There are now more than 100 Yanks playing professionally in Europe but most play in countries where it is easier to get a work permit. If it were easier in Scotland and England you'd see more Yanks there.
i wouldn't have believed it if i hadn't seen it with my own eyes, but THIS LIST (http://www.yanks-abroad.com/get.php?mode=players) shows that there is only 1 american (DaMarcus Beasley) playing professionally in scotland.

:eek: