View Full Version : Hughes given permission to speak to Man Citeh
flyingv
02 Jun 2008, 05:44 AM
Just announced that Mark Hughes has been given permission to speak to Man Citeh re the managerial job.
Looks like he will go, any suggestions of a replacement? I have heard that Sam Allerdyce could be approached. Will not cost anything but is he suitable? I would not be happy:(:(:(
dring1
02 Jun 2008, 11:54 AM
Just announced that Mark Hughes has been given permission to speak to Man Citeh re the managerial job.
Looks like he will go, any suggestions of a replacement? I have heard that Sam Allerdyce could be approached. Will not cost anything but is he suitable? I would not be happy:(:(:(
well i for one think he is daft if he goes there. will be sacked within 12 months with that chairman involved. if it is sam then i will give him all the support i can and give him time to do the job. personnally i think we should do a straight swap, hughes for sven.
Rex Kramer
02 Jun 2008, 01:52 PM
I realise that Citeh are in UEFA next season and Shinawhatever brings a lot of money to the table, but he also brings a hell of a lot more crazy. How on earth is this a step up for Hughes?
Seriously Sparky, go for the Chelski job or stay here and wait for Fergie to retire.
dring1
02 Jun 2008, 01:57 PM
I realise that Citeh are in UEFA next season and Shinawhatever brings a lot of money to the table, but he also brings a hell of a lot more crazy. How on earth is this a step up for Hughes?
Seriously Sparky, go for the Chelski job or stay here and wait for Fergie to retire.
once hughes has stated his intention of going for another job i dont think he can stay here. you cant tell bentley to be loyal and sign a new contract when the manager is going to talk to other clubs at the first sign of asking for permission. he will be better of resigning if he does not take the city job.
cleansheetbsc
02 Jun 2008, 03:30 PM
Newcastle I would have understood. But Citeh? I guess he is not the genius I thought he was.
He was set at Blackburn. Keep away from relegation fight is all you have to do. Do what he has been doing and he just needed to wait until SAF retired and the job was his.
Man Citeh? That place is Newcastle Lite.
flyingv
02 Jun 2008, 05:25 PM
Agree with Dring, he will have to resign if he cannot agree terms with Citeh. The only way he could do a u turn is to say that Rovers are a better club than Citeh and he would rather stay. To be fair, Rovers are a better club but have no "financial clout" of the size of Citeh and Sinatra. How will the fans take to an ex red managing them? and only for a few years until Alexi Fungiside retires and Hughes takes over!!
Revelian
02 Jun 2008, 05:48 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If Benni leaves, Santa leaves, Bentley leaves, Brad retires, I can still see us being safe in the Premiership. If Sparky leaves, we will have lost our guarantee of survival in the top flight.
But, I agree with you guys. I mean, if he goes there, he's only gonna get sacked at the end of next season. This is because Shinawatra appears to be under the false impression that you can qualify for the Champions League in one season.
If Sparky went to Chelsea, I'd be upset, but I'd probably be saying, "Good luck to him." As it stands, our brilliant manager may leave for a club where he has no guarantees of keeping the job.
If Sparky remained at Rovers and we finished seventeenth, he would still be in the job come the following season. He just doesn't have that kind of guarantee at Citeh.
Revelian
USRoverDE
02 Jun 2008, 11:04 PM
rumor has it, Hughes is using Citeh to get Chelsea to make up their damned mind.
my guess, he either gets Chelsea, or he comes out and says "city doesn't have the money I thought they had, it wouldn't be a step above Rovers" and sticks with Rovers. And frankly, if he does that I honestly don't think there'd be much of a problem between him and the players. Whether the fans would buy it is a different story, but I bet 5 games in, if he keeps us winning, hard feelings will be gone.
In conspiracy theory mode, JW is using MH to suss out if City actually do have money to spend, and its all a "spy" tactic. :)
Revelian
02 Jun 2008, 11:45 PM
What difference would it make whether we know how much money Sinawatra has?
Revelian
Rex Kramer
03 Jun 2008, 10:28 AM
rumor has it, Hughes is using Citeh to get Chelsea to make up their damned mind.
Much as I dislike Chelski, I have no problem with that. Moving to a club that can conceivably win several trophies per year is a big step up and just shows what a great manager Hughes has become. If he wants the job and feels he needs to do this to force Chelsea's hand, then fair play to him.
However, switching to a club that has more money but finished below us, has a crazy, demanding, trigger-happy owner and is proven to have little to no job security... well, I'm not sure if that's even a step sideways, let alone up.
Foxhill
03 Jun 2008, 10:46 AM
Much as I dislike Chelski, I have no problem with that. Moving to a club that can conceivably win several trophies per year is a big step up and just shows what a great manager Hughes has become. If he wants the job and feels he needs to do this to force Chelsea's hand, then fair play to him.
However, switching to a club that has more money but finished below us, has a crazy, demanding, trigger-happy owner and is proven to have little to no job security... well, I'm not sure if that's even a step sideways, let alone up.
I think 99% of Rovers fans think exactly the same Rex!
USRoverDE
03 Jun 2008, 10:52 AM
What difference would it make whether we know how much money Sinawatra has?
Revelian
Easy, if City is really in a financial situation where tehy need to sell in order to bring in players, AND most of their roster is for sale, we can get ourselves in a good spot to cherry pick someone from their roster if we are interested, (I'd be interested in Petrov or Ireland)
superdave
03 Jun 2008, 11:31 AM
From Hughes' perspective, this is, I think, the thought process.
1. I'd like to go to a superclub like ManU or Chelsea one day.
2. I've proven that I have the tactical ability to coach at that level.
3. But I haven't proven I can intelligently spend big money. It's one thing to continually be brilliant and find cheap, very good players like Nelsen, Samba, Bentley, Bellamy, McCarthy, Rocky, and Warnock. But ManU and Chelsea play in a different transfer market.
4. I'm kind of bored at Rovers. (Am I the only one who thought the team sleep walked through the last 3-4 months?)
5. I think I can go to ManCity, serve a couple of years, spend big money wisely, and then be THE top candidate for Manchester United, or whatever superclub has an opening.
Revelian
03 Jun 2008, 12:46 PM
Easy, if City is really in a financial situation where tehy need to sell in order to bring in players, AND most of their roster is for sale, we can get ourselves in a good spot to cherry pick someone from their roster if we are interested, (I'd be interested in Petrov or Ireland)
The football world is not that thick though, surely. The press always know the bare bones of the situation (though they may not always report the truth). If the club needed funds to make improved signings, Rovers won't be the only ones who need to know, and therefore Rovers won't be the ones who find out. They'll leave that to the press, or they'll make enquiries about the availability of certain players. I think the point of Hughes essentially spying on Man City is complete rubbish. It's obvious he think Man City is a bigger club, and Sinawatra aside, actually believes he can do well there.
We all know he'll get sacked if Man City don't make the top four. This is because Sinawatra is a fool, and knows nothing about European football.
Revelian
dring1
03 Jun 2008, 04:57 PM
The football world is not that thick though, surely. The press always know the bare bones of the situation (though they may not always report the truth). If the club needed funds to make improved signings, Rovers won't be the only ones who need to know, and therefore Rovers won't be the ones who find out. They'll leave that to the press, or they'll make enquiries about the availability of certain players. I think the point of Hughes essentially spying on Man City is complete rubbish. It's obvious he think Man City is a bigger club, and Sinawatra aside, actually believes he can do well there.
We all know he'll get sacked if Man City don't make the top four. This is because Sinawatra is a fool, and knows nothing about European football.
Revelian
hughes is in talks in london tonight. should be all confirmed by tommorow unless it goes pershapped and he comes back to rovers with his tail tucked between his legs. our chairman is going to have some hard thinging to do if that happens. on our next manager looks like bfs is number one contender to take the job. i wont have a problem with him taking over as he was my choice for the england job and was dissapointed that he didnt get it.
Revelian
04 Jun 2008, 03:30 AM
That fat turd doesn't know his arsehole from his elbow. Listen - if you WANT to have a reputation for not playing football along the ground and hacking the opponents to the floor, Sam's your man. He is absolutely, one-hundred percent the last person I would want to see as our manager. Both he and JFK (McLaren) are simple-minded idiots, who should never manage again. I put them both on the same level as Dave Bassett.
How can you possibly want to go from Hughes to, "Hoof the ball up to the big man," Allardyce? That's like trading in an Aston Martin for a Lada.
Revelian
flyingv
04 Jun 2008, 05:04 AM
RevelianThat fat turd doesn't know his arsehole from his elbow. Listen - if you WANT to have a reputation for not playing football along the ground and hacking the opponents to the floor, Sam's your man. He is absolutely, one-hundred percent the last person I would want to see as our manager. Both he and JFK (McLaren) are simple-minded idiots, who should never manage again. I put them both on the same level as Dave Bassett.
How can you possibly want to go from Hughes to, "Hoof the ball up to the big man," Allardyce? That's like trading in an Aston Martin for a Lada.
Revelian
Totally agree with Revelian and Alardyce comes with a bit of baggage (large brown packed envelopes) allegedly.
As for Hughes, if you beleive the press, he has agreed a £9million three year deal. If he fails and gets sacked he will receive a nice pay off and will walk into the next available job, so he is on a no loser.
Unfortunately there are not many high profile managers who would come to Rovers in view of the lack of cash available. Allardyce, unfortunately, is used to the situation and this might put him in pole position in the eyes of the board. If the club has been able to agree a takeover, would Hughes have stayed? I am not blaming the board, as the club has to be valued correctly, but it is just a thought.:confused:
JimmyTheHoover
04 Jun 2008, 07:43 AM
This stinks similar to the Neill to West Ham debacle.
If Hughes was going to a top 4 club, then fair enough, I wouldn't have any complaints, but city? I think they'd have as much chance as Rovers of breaking into the top 4 in the next few seasons, after that time period it may have been a different story.
I would have liked Mark to have left with all Rover's fans blessings, but moving to Man City, that ain't gonna happen. He was up for the Newcastle job a few months ago wasn't he? And he distanced himself from that, Newcastle is arguably a bigger club than City wouldn't you say? And they sure as hell have spending power. Don't know why it seems he ran for the door on this occasion.
As for the future, I would take Big Sam hands down rather than the Steve 'umbrella man' McClaren and Paul 'not so much of a' Jewell.
If it is at all possible, I'd be looking for a foreign manager, a risk I know, but surely there must be somebody available, surely, that will probably have more influence in keeping our better players than Sam, please save us somebody!
flyingv
04 Jun 2008, 08:55 AM
Well it is now officially confirmed, Hughes has gone, three year deal worth £9 million. Extremely disappointed, but what would you do in his shoes? I would take the money, but then again perhaps I am greedy:)
Let's not forget that the club is bigger than any player or manager and will be there in the years to come. However, the quality of the appointment of a new manager is vital to ensure that we build on our premiership success so far.
glennaldo_sf
04 Jun 2008, 09:48 AM
5. I think I can go to ManCity, serve a couple of years, spend big money wisely, and then be THE top candidate for Manchester United, or whatever superclub has an opening.
Maybe I'm a little old fashioned in my way of thinking.. but aren't Manchester City and Manchester United sworn enemies? Isn't it kind of taboo for a former United star like Mark Huges to go anywhere near the City of Manchester stadium. And will United fans ever want him (a former City manager) back at Old Trafford as their manager? :eek:
Maybe times have changed and it's not important now. But just a thought