Car..los..los..los..new utd boss? Once The Wise Auld hangs them up?

[Dark Savante]

I look around world football and see only SAF active in club football who is one of the pack of the true elite. There is no quality successors out there, no outstanding managers or characters of outstanding personality and charisma.

I don't think Keano or any of the other Utd old boys are anywhere near ready, nor do they have the credentials for the role and are unlikely to gather them in the next 3yrs.

So, would a Paisley situation of promoting from within be the best thing for us when the dreaded time comes to replace Mr. Godfist?

[Bex79]

I look around world football and see only SAF active in club football who is one of the pack of the true elite. There is no quality successors out there, no outstanding managers or characters of outstanding personality and charisma.

I don't think Keano or any of the other Utd old boys are anywhere near ready, nor do they have the credentials for the role and are unlikely to gather them in the next 3yrs.

So, would a Paisley situation of promoting from within be the best thing for us when the dreaded time comes to replace Mr. Godfist?

I think so, yes. Dad was telling me only yesterday about the club and the situation around it when Matt left, and while there's certainly no chance of it happening this time around IMO, it would be best to go with someone who knows the squad. A fair amount of people are sceptical about Carlos mainly in light of his time at Madrid.. but then again, that's Madrid who are an absolute joke with regards to managers... He'll have big boots to fill and nobody really knows how he'd handle the pressure of a job quite as big as ours but i reckon we should give him a shot... I agree, none of the United old boys are ready or will be, even if I'd love to see Keano back here more than anything. :D

Fergie will have a huge say and he won't hand us over to anyone he doesn't trust... He loves us too much for that. Hopefully, 20-6 it will be when he goes. :D

[Holy__Joe]

I think Carlos would be a good candidate for many reasons

1 - He already commands the respect of many of the players, they know him, they know what he's about and he isnt some new guy coming in and mucking things up.

2 - He seems to have a good eye for young talent and is a person who always seems to have the future at mind while still finding youth players who are ready to play, rather than ones who might be ready in 3-4 years ala Arsenal.

I'll type up a few more of what i think when i have a bit of time.

[Jakker27]

Sir Alex says it alot: Continuity.

He's been at the club for a good few years now, speaks all the languages, is repected by the players and has opened up an interesting market to the club.

So he would be the obvious choice. At United he would be able to manage and do the things required because we trust him.

[cr7torossi]

Juande Ramos if he manages to break the top 4 and win a major trophy, even the UEFA Cup with Spurs.

[johno]

Carlos wouldn't be bad but I'd like to help him out by bringing in a Mark Hughes or a Roy Keane to be his understudy.

[mmradio13]

I'm all for Carlos being the next manager of the club. He already is on good terms with the guys, speaks all the languages, and knows the system that the team is currently in. Hes a great scout for new, young talent, and i don't think what he did at Real transitions into what he will do with United. The biggest point that can be made for him- Sir Alex trusts him and thinks he is great. And I myself trust Sir Alex, so why not give this guy the chance?

Another point that I look at- If Carlos is unsuccessful, I think Roy Keane wouldn't have the slightest hesitation to come immediately back to United. If you take Keane now and he isn't successful, chances are Carlos won't be coming back. Carlos wants a head coaching gig, but why would he leave to coach a team like Portugal or other big clubs now if he could have the reigns at Manchester United in 2-3 years.

[JC7rox]

Carlos wouldn't be bad but I'd like to help him out by bringing in a Mark Hughes or a Roy Keane to be his understudy.
Keano as an understudy to Carlos? Wasn't Carlos one of the reason why Keane ended up being dismissed?

I can't see that happening.

[johno]

I meant mostly an ex player someone strong in the traditions of United to help keep Carlos grounded.

[iDiveStevieG]

Lets see how Mark Hughes does with Blackburn in the next 2 or 3 years, if he manages to get them into the top 6 I would consider him to be a strong candidate. Keane is too young and inexperienced as a manager for United at the moment, what has he done to prove that he would be able to bring trophies home? He got Sunderland promoted and kept them in the premiership for a season. He just doesn't have the qualifications as a manager (yet). Give him more time to ripen.

[Mighty_Mouse]

Anyone who doesn't want Carlos as the replacement is either not happy with the current state of management or, completely oblivious. I've never thought of Carlos as an assistant in his time here and this club is in an interesting situation where two intelligent head coaches are working closely together and seem to get along well.

IMO, Carlos is equally if not more responsible for the state of the current team. This may not sit well with some of you but you'll have to face it sooner or later.

[Red Jeph]

Anyone who doesn't want Carlos as the replacement is either not happy with the current state of management or, completely oblivious.

Of course that must be the case, no in between. :rolleyes:

It couldn't be that people are concerned that he has not proven himself as a manager.

Whether he is responsible for the state of the team or not, he has done it behind the scenes. We don't know if that could translate if he was the face of the club or not.

[Invincible]

Anyone who doesn't want Carlos as the replacement is either not happy with the current state of management or, completely oblivious. I've never thought of Carlos as an assistant in his time here and this club is in an interesting situation where two intelligent head coaches are working closely together and seem to get along well.

IMO, Carlos is equally if not more responsible for the state of the current team. This may not sit well with some of you but you'll have to face it sooner or later.

High five! Gotta love M & Ms condescending tone in everything he says.:)

[Red Jeph]

High five! Gotta love M & Ms condescending tone in everything he says.:)


If MM's post wasn't the perfect example of a false dilemma, I don't know what is.

[whattedium]

I meant mostly an ex player someone strong in the traditions of United to help keep Carlos grounded.

An interesting option from this angle would be Brian McClair. Ole's taking over the reserves already...

[lynne]

No one in their right mind would take Roy Keane as an assistant coach. Too much of a ticking time bomb.

Maybe one of the Giggs, Ole, Scholes trio could be used to sit next to Carlos and provide that English presence.

btw, I do agree with MM that Carlos is already doing most of the job -- the training, the planning, the formations, picking the players. SAF does the press conferences, and the motivational parts of the team talk.

[Salama]

Quieroz will almost surely be the next manager.

Personally, I would try to tempt David Moyes from Everton, assuming his team doesn't drop off and he keeps doing as good a job as he's doing.

[cr7torossi]

MM, CQ is yet to prove himself as a manager. A great assistant manager does not translate into a great manager. I guess a lot would depend on our Portugese contigent, if we are dependent on them, then CQ would be our next manager so that they stay at the club.

I personally would prefer someone like Ramos(if he can do a good job @ spurs) or Blanc depending on whether his Bordeaux side can overtake Lyon.

[Dark Savante]

MM, CQ is yet to prove himself as a manager. A great assistant manager does not translate into a great manager. I guess a lot would depend on our Portugese contigent, if we are dependent on them, then CQ would be our next manager so that they stay at the club.

I personally would prefer someone like Ramos(if he can do a good job @ spurs) or Blanc depending on whether his Bordeaux side can overtake Lyon.

Anyone like Blanc is way too low on experience and triumphs as well as know-how.

Ramos would have to prove he has it in him to stay here for years and not do his usual and skip once a 'bett'er offer comes along, which he may see as Barca or RM.

I mentioned Queiroz because he is part of the infrastructure of the club now, in much the same way Paisley was before he took over. Without any truly special managers out there it pushes him way up the pecking order.

I have no idea whether he can actually manage a club like this with all it entails (you never can know until the new man has full control) but I'd be more willing to have him try and possibly fail than someone from outside the club coming and possibly failing. That's probably something only reserved for old boys or those already/still here really.

A new man with no previous ties to us would be quite a disaster should he fail...especially if he tampers too much in the process. One would think Carlos wouldn't do that as he and Fergie seem to share similar ideas, which is wh they work so well together. I think if it weren't for the carrot of potentially taking over, he'd have left us as well. He seems to want to be a manager rather than a #2, but is willing to bide his time considering the immense prize on offer should it pay off.


Fergie is definitely on his last legs now. Whether he says 3yrs or no, 70yrs old and above is far too old for such a stressful and demanding job and we really need to be thinking in those terms as his time left here is curtailing with certainty.

[Sapphire]

I have no idea whether he can actually manage a club like this with all it entails (you never can know until the new man has full control) but I'd be more willing to have him try and possibly fail than someone from outside the club coming and possibly failing. That's probably something only reserved for old boys or those already/still here really.My feelings as well. In particular, I don't want us to get into the cycle of so many other clubs of having a new manager every year or two or three. With the exception of his jaunt to Madrid, Queiroz has been at the club since 2002, he understands Fergie's vision, he's obviously capable of connecting with players in a meaningful way, and I believe him to be genuinely dedicated to United (don't you think he could have easily secured a more prominent coaching position after managing Madrid than returning as Fergie's number two?).

When SAF leaves, it will cause a lot of stress and uncertainty given what he has meant to the club, but I continue to trust Fergie, and Fergie trusts Queiroz. Let's give him a shot. If he fails to continue the successes and style of the Fergie era, then we can bring in whoever and start playing musical managers.