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Untroubled by Reason
19 May 2008, 10:27 AM
OK, I had a long day Saturday and couldn't stay up for the game... how did rookie Ryan Cordeiro play?
JeremyEritrea
19 May 2008, 10:40 AM
He sucked.
But he had plenty of company.
CrimsonChin00
19 May 2008, 10:54 AM
Turn over machine but hes young. (I hope hes reading this.)
Grasscutter
19 May 2008, 12:37 PM
Turn over machine but hes young. (I hope hes reading this.)
To me, he looked less steady than Stratford three weeks ago vs. Toronto.
So I can't say I see any consistent coaching logic in taking out Stratford in the 40th minute when the team was ahead and in control of that game, and leaving Cordeiro in for the whole game vs. Chivas when we were clearly losing our bearings.
Winoman
19 May 2008, 12:49 PM
IMHO, even though they haven't played particularly well, they need to get (at least) some clean-up minutes soon, so that they don't lose what self-confidence they have.
AlecW81
19 May 2008, 01:19 PM
Unless we bring someone else in to play left mid, I'd prefer to just stick with Cordeiro out there, and keep McTavish on the Right when he's healthy as well.
"But what about Fred?"
Fred should either be up top or playing CAM.
"But what about Gallardo?"
He should play behind Fred, since he prefers to drop back so deep to bring the ball up.
"But what about Simms?"
No reason he can't learn to be a better CB than Peralta, or become at least an adequate RM/LM.
Something like this:
--------------------OTC-----------------------
Namoff---Peralta------Martinez-------Burch
McTavish--------Gallardo-----------Cordeiro
--------------------Fred-----------------------
---------------Q2.3---Emilio------------------
traversunitedfan
19 May 2008, 01:20 PM
I really liked the fact he was very feisty. If he could calm down a tad anc connect better passes then he could be a pretty good winger.
BigKris
19 May 2008, 01:42 PM
I think he should get more looks. Because if we're going to throw out of consideration everyone who played poorly on Saturday, we're going to have trouble fielding a team.
CrimsonChin00
20 May 2008, 01:17 AM
I really liked the fact he was very feisty. If he could calm down a tad anc connect better passes then he could be a pretty good winger.
Exactly what United NEEDS.
JoeSoccerFan
20 May 2008, 07:10 AM
Besides the obvious turn-overs, continuously lost his man on defensive coverage. man to man defense abysmal.
Not the answer.
MattMathai
20 May 2008, 07:36 AM
Besides the obvious turn-overs, continuously lost his man on defensive coverage. man to man defense abysmal.
Not the answer.
There's no way you can make this kind of dismissive judgement after he's been thrown into his first game with a team in total turmoil. Same goes for Stratford.
JoeSoccerFan
20 May 2008, 08:10 AM
There's no way you can make this kind of dismissive judgement after he's been thrown into his first game with a team in total turmoil. Same goes for Stratford.
I make the assessment after watching him for 8 games. 3 in professional and 4 in college.
JeremyEritrea
20 May 2008, 08:14 AM
I make the assessment after watching him for 8 games. 3 in professional and 4 in college.
Must be the new math. ;)
MattMathai
20 May 2008, 08:15 AM
I make the assessment after watching him for 8 games. 3 in professional and 4 in college.
Sorry, I don't buy it. College is a terrible predictor of success in the league, as are play and the quality of opposition in reserve games. Even the one game he had with the senior team wasn't a fair test for him, IMO, given the conditions around him.
I'm not saying he's the next member of the HOF, just that it's way too early to tell.
Pan-T Clause
20 May 2008, 09:35 AM
For his first match and start I would say he wasn't the worst I have ever seen. He was practically invisible most of the game. with most of the play pushing up through Tino.
Publius
20 May 2008, 10:46 AM
Did his invisibility have something to do with Harris' monster second half? I know Harris got pushed up the field a bit, but I was thinking Martinez was trying to do too much defensively perhaps because he didn't think he had enough cover on that side.
MattMathai
20 May 2008, 11:07 AM
Did his invisibility have something to do with Harris' monster second half? I know Harris got pushed up the field a bit, but I was thinking Martinez was trying to do too much defensively perhaps because he didn't think he had enough cover on that side.
For all of Harris's faults, he has speed and size, which makes him tough to play against, esp. for a rookie in his first match.
JoeSoccerFan
20 May 2008, 11:54 AM
I make the assessment after watching him for 8 games. 3 in professional and 4 in college.
Must be the new math. ;)
Also, 1 in my front yard, after he mowed my lawn and washed my car. During that game, he was schooled by several youngsters and lost the little girl in pig tails on the weak side.
:D
Hedbal
20 May 2008, 12:19 PM
Of course, the fact that the tv announcers constantly confused Cordeiro with Burch didn't help matters. Apparently this guy Burch was totally in control of the left touchline - he was back, he was up, he was everywhere! In fact, half the time it was Cordeiro.
BigKris
20 May 2008, 12:44 PM
During that game, he was schooled by several youngsters and lost the little girl in pig tails on the weak side.
That happens to me ALL THE TIME during pickup games at the Barra Tailgate. So, of course, I think the key question in assessing Cordeiro's form is, did he spill his beer?