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Hungry Dave
09 Jun 2008, 04:12 PM
Great ball movement from the Italians. Ale should have put that shot on goal though.
Ruud comes off for Van Persi.
Andy Bennett
09 Jun 2008, 04:15 PM
Was he so injured?
And the AR could make that determination from 60 yards away as he lay on the floor, could he?
aloisius
09 Jun 2008, 04:16 PM
Not really!
I'll bet if you had that same position with 90 top flight refs out of 100 it would be called offside. These things are matters of judgment. If the defender had lost a leg, to give a ludicrous example, do you think it wouldn't be offside? How could the ref or AR be sure he wasn't badly injured and in no position to get back on the field.
he wasn't injured at all and could have returned to the pitch immediately.
that he choose not to is his problem.
sendorange
09 Jun 2008, 04:17 PM
Van Persie was onside then.
jpAustria
09 Jun 2008, 04:17 PM
that was on-side, he would have been gone for the 3rd goal
benztown
09 Jun 2008, 04:17 PM
van persie not offside!
Andy Bennett
09 Jun 2008, 04:18 PM
What if he lost a leg and fell on the line? Same example but do you think it should be determinitive as to the extent of the injury? It is a simple matter of whether the ref gave him permission to go off the field. In this case no, hence he would be considered as still on the pitch.
Interesting point with only one drawback... he wasn't on the line, he was over it and 2-3 meteres off the pitch.
code1390
09 Jun 2008, 04:18 PM
Wow. Luca Toni blew it.
glennaldo_sf
09 Jun 2008, 04:18 PM
An Italian goal would certainly liven this game up.
Cassano on
code1390
09 Jun 2008, 04:19 PM
Interesting point with only one drawback... he wasn't on the line, he was over it and 2-3 meteres off the pitch.
Correct. And to determine offside, he is considered on the goal line. If the ref felt he was seriously injured, he would stop play per Law 5.
sendorange
09 Jun 2008, 04:19 PM
Heitinga lost the plot then.
Andy Bennett
09 Jun 2008, 04:20 PM
he wasn't injured at all and could have returned to the pitch immediately.
that he choose not to is his problem.
After watching it about 3 times I thought he was play acting too. My point is I can't see how the ref and AR could tell that.
sendorange
09 Jun 2008, 04:21 PM
3-0
Fantastic :D
code1390
09 Jun 2008, 04:21 PM
3-0 Dutch. Own goal.
glennaldo_sf
09 Jun 2008, 04:21 PM
Wow. Luca Toni blew it.
And so did the linesman... that DID look offside to me.
!Bob
09 Jun 2008, 04:21 PM
Holy Shit!!! 3-0.
Gandalf The Red
09 Jun 2008, 04:21 PM
The vespa boys have been rsoled:cool:
Henry Porter
09 Jun 2008, 04:21 PM
All right, I'm on the Dutch bandwagon. They play the way it's supposed to be played.
dcuni_ted
09 Jun 2008, 04:21 PM
Well this game is over.
PhillyQuakesFan
09 Jun 2008, 04:21 PM
3-0....maybe these announcers will stop sucking off Italy now