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ForeverRed
09 Jun 2008, 12:43 AM
I always get terribly confused now when reading the threads, because all your avatars are the same!

Jooooooooiiin uuussss......

http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/zombie.jpg

Sevryn45
09 Jun 2008, 12:50 AM
Although the score line may not reflect it, Poland did improve from 2006; back then we were pitiful today we attacked and had quite a few decent chances, we played to win even though we lost and there's nothing to be ashamed off.

I am not that impressed with Austria and Croatia, with Croatia being the bigger threat then Austria; i am optimistic about our next to games. I hope we get some luck, Ref today killed our chances hopefully we wont get the same type of calles against us in the next 2 matches.

Cris 09
09 Jun 2008, 01:00 AM
Ref today killed our chances hopefully we wont get the same type of calles against us in the next 2 matches.

Explain

DefenseWinsCliche
09 Jun 2008, 01:01 AM
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/GBEU/FP1839~Darth-Vader-Posters.jpg

I want to. So how can I get it.

Cris 09
09 Jun 2008, 01:07 AM
Download this to your hard-drive and then upload it up on your avatar preferences from wherever you downloaded it with the browse button.



http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/423/germaneaglebygifhaased6.jpg

Sevryn45
09 Jun 2008, 01:17 AM
Explain



2 chances that Germany got was offside, they scored on 1 and Gomez missed the other one.

Cris 09
09 Jun 2008, 01:22 AM
2 chances that Germany got was offside, they scored on 1 and Gomez missed the other one.

Wrong...the goal came from a correct onside play. ESPN did the whole digital virtual video thing, examined every angle and the verdict; it was legit.

The shot that Gomez missed would have been offside if Gomez had touched the ball...he didn't. If Klose had shot it himself, it would have been legit as well.

Now even though the calls on the abovementioned palys could have gone either way, how did the ref "kill" Poland's chances, as per you stated in your post?? What chances did Poland make that the ref did not accept and ruled against?

Lahmfan
09 Jun 2008, 01:33 AM
Lol are we still talking about the 2 chances being offside? ??
Its 1:30 am over here ... and i been watching this thread from the beginning and the only topics we discussed so far is
1) poldi is polish not German
2) the Poland attack wasn't offside and poldi first goal is
3) Gomez missing the goal in the 4 minutes and how klose/gomez are idiots

Can we really stop talking about the above topic PLEASE!
Final score ... Germany 2 Poland 0

BMike86
09 Jun 2008, 01:34 AM
2 chances that Germany got was offside, they scored on 1 and Gomez missed the other one.

it wasn't the refs fault it was our back line... Leo shouldn't have tried implementing the offside-trap last minute this past week to try and catch Low off guard. if it worked then Leo would have been a hero, if it didn't then it would hurt us big time. Germany loves the through ball with their speed and we were exploited for it. that isn't the refs fault. that is Leo's, he gambled and took a chance and it failed miserably. BUT the good thing that i respect from him is he tried something new and out of the ordinary, and even though it failed he adjusted and Poland looked much better. now knowing what we do now we should sit much prettier going into matches with Austria and Croatia. Poland looked a lot better managed than in the past because Poland actually went down swinging in this match instead of playing 10 or even 11 behind the ball against a far superior side.

Zurawski and Golanski looked like crap. Lewandowski seemed a little bit off today with his aim, Krzynowek and Smolarek seemed a little unlucky. Lobo seemed to work his arse off on the right and looked pretty good. Roger came on and gave the German backline fits. Boruc wasn't tested much but did come through big time on the Ballack shot and he couldn't do much with the 2 goals (because 1st one he was hung out to dry by his backline failing to properly execute the offside trap, 2nd goal was just flat out sick laser-beam from within the 18). the player of the match FOR Poland I would have to say was Dudka because he was industrious and served good balls and played damn well defensively and showed instances of a Gattuso-like player all over the pitch running his arse off.

we now know after this match to...
---not use the offside trap again
---start Roger in the hole behind Smolarek instead of Zurawski

Cris 09
09 Jun 2008, 01:35 AM
Lol are we still talking about the 2 chances being offside? ??
Its 1:30 am over here ... and i been watching this thread from the beginning and the only topics we discussed so far is
1) poldi is polish not German
2) the Poland attack wasn't offside and poldi first goal is
3) Gomez missing the goal in the 4 minutes and how klose/gomez are idiots

Can we really stop talking about the above topic PLEASE!
Final score ... Germany 2 Poland 0


I think that is the purpose of this thread...now jshut up, join us and change your avatar!! ;)

Lahmfan
09 Jun 2008, 01:36 AM
I think that is the purpose of this thread...now jshut up, join us and change your avatar!! ;)
lol
doing it now sir!


EDIT: Happy now?

BMike86
09 Jun 2008, 01:41 AM
it wasn't the refs fault it was our back line... Leo shouldn't have tried implementing the offside-trap last minute this past week to try and catch Low off guard. if it worked then Leo would have been a hero, if it didn't then it would hurt us big time. Germany loves the through ball with their speed and we were exploited for it. that isn't the refs fault. that is Leo's, he gambled and took a chance and it failed miserably. BUT the good thing that i respect from him is he tried something new and out of the ordinary, and even though it failed he adjusted and Poland looked much better. now knowing what we do now we should sit much prettier going into matches with Austria and Croatia. Poland looked a lot better managed than in the past because Poland actually went down swinging in this match instead of playing 10 or even 11 behind the ball against a far superior side.

Zurawski and Golanski looked like crap. Lewandowski seemed a little bit off today with his aim, Krzynowek and Smolarek seemed a little unlucky. Lobo seemed to work his arse off on the right and looked pretty good. Roger came on and gave the German backline fits. Boruc wasn't tested much but did come through big time on the Ballack shot and he couldn't do much with the 2 goals (because 1st one he was hung out to dry by his backline failing to properly execute the offside trap, 2nd goal was just flat out sick laser-beam from within the 18). the player of the match FOR Poland I would have to say was Dudka because he was industrious and served good balls and played damn well defensively and showed instances of a Gattuso-like player all over the pitch running his arse off.

we now know after this match to...
---not use the offside trap again
---start Roger in the hole behind Smolarek instead of Zurawski

see as i quoted myself above, i have no problem with Germany winning because they deserved it. at first Leo's tactics hurt us big time. and then later on Germany just out-classed us... i do have a problem though with fellow Polish people that make up excuses or reasons of blame when it is entirely unnecessary. how many times do you have to hear the same bullshite? of course the match could have gone other ways... but did it? NO... so accept the fact we lost, plain and simple :cool:

Cris 09
09 Jun 2008, 01:47 AM
lol
doing it now sir!


EDIT: Happy now?

http://media.gamespy.com/columns/image/article/550/550110/the-top-10-unannounced-star-wars-games-and-guides--20040921033110332.jpg
Good, Good...Mua ha ha ha


Tomorrow DF is going to be like; WTF??? We need to get Gooner and Fraulein as well!!

Lahmfan
09 Jun 2008, 02:01 AM
http://media.gamespy.com/columns/image/article/550/550110/the-top-10-unannounced-star-wars-games-and-guides--20040921033110332.jpg
Good, Good...Mua ha ha ha


Tomorrow DF is going to be like; WTF??? We need to get Gooner and Fraulein as well!!
LoL
I put it as my facebook and myspace profile picture too...

Go Germany!

grodada
09 Jun 2008, 03:28 AM
the best game so far

Germany is as good as ever, I understand now why they're rated as top favorites for this tournament. I was really impressed by Fritz :eek:
Poland did really well, I think they could advance to the quarters specially after watching Austria vs Croatia :o

marcin79
09 Jun 2008, 04:40 AM
I don't want to write about the game too much, because everyone could see it and to have one's opinion. Generally I have impression that sunday fans are most bitter today as they trusted our media hype that we SHOULD win it. In my opinion good team defeated the weaker one, but there was no reason to feel ashamed for Polish players. Maybe foreign fans have other opinion but I think that at least our NT didn't look like team from another era (like in Korea and Germany) in things like posession, passing, speed etc. To be exact - from the past.

Gates of "polish little hell" are not fully open yet, but I can imagine it can happen soon and yesterday we have seen some sample of it. In Polsat aftermatch programme, during experts discussion I already heard name "Ireneusz Jelen". I expected to hear something about Pawel Brozek, Marek Zienczuk, Artur Wichniarek and Adrian Sikora too, maybe. Thankfully not this time. It looks we are safe until Thursday.

It concerns me a little that three of four "former national players - now experts" are from the backbone of 2002 World Cup squad. Excluding Zbigniew Boniek, who was highly succesful and brought bronze medal in 1982, those guys are identified with World Cup defeat: Tomasz Hajto, Piotr Swierczewski and Marek Kozminski. However good players they were and with all respect to them, they failed to impress in most important tournament of their footballing lives. And I think that they still try to work on their PR, and PR of 2002 squad, what makes them compare current squad to their squad. Is it fully objective?

Yesterday (before our game) Boniek was asked if current team is better than those in 2002 and 2006. He said - honestly I think - that today our players may play for weaker clubs than then, but seem to be better as a team. "We weren't bad as a team" responsed Kozminski quickly, seemingly hurted with previous opinion. After game with Germany Tomasz Hajto started to criticise current players for "not having guts to speak to journalists now" (personally Jacek Bak if I am right). And added that he had guts in 2002. It is sad that we can mainly remember his participation in this tournament from stupid and brutal foul on Portuguese.

Maybe even those who didn't play on World Cups at all - "lost generation" of 90's with Kosecki, Brzeczek, Ziober etc - would be more objective than their younger colleagues who failed to impress in finals. I feel a bit of bitterness in them and I am not fully sure if they really wish all good to our players.

+Gooner+
09 Jun 2008, 05:39 AM
http://media.gamespy.com/columns/image/article/550/550110/the-top-10-unannounced-star-wars-games-and-guides--20040921033110332.jpg
Good, Good...Mua ha ha ha


Tomorrow DF is going to be like; WTF??? We need to get Gooner and Fraulein as well!!

What? You mean using the burned chicken as my avatar? No problem. :D

BMike86
09 Jun 2008, 05:49 AM
I don't want to write about the game too much, because everyone could see it and to have one's opinion. Generally I have impression that sunday fans are most bitter today as they trusted our media hype that we SHOULD win it. In my opinion good team defeated the weaker one, but there was no reason to feel ashamed for Polish players. Maybe foreign fans have other opinion but I think that at least our NT didn't look like team from another era (like in Korea and Germany) in things like posession, passing, speed etc. To be exact - from the past.

Gates of "polish little hell" are not fully open yet, but I can imagine it can happen soon and yesterday we have seen some sample of it. In Polsat aftermatch programme, during experts discussion I already heard name "Ireneusz Jelen". I expected to hear something about Pawel Brozek, Marek Zienczuk, Artur Wichniarek and Adrian Sikora too, maybe. Thankfully not this time. It looks we are safe until Thursday.

It concerns me a little that three of four "former national players - now experts" are from the backbone of 2002 World Cup squad. Excluding Zbigniew Boniek, who was highly succesful and brought bronze medal in 1982, those guys are identified with World Cup defeat: Tomasz Hajto, Piotr Swierczewski and Marek Kozminski. However good players they were and with all respect to them, they failed to impress in most important tournament of their footballing lives. And I think that they still try to work on their PR, and PR of 2002 squad, what makes them compare current squad to their squad. Is it fully objective?

Yesterday (before our game) Boniek was asked if current team is better than those in 2002 and 2006. He said - honestly I think - that today our players may play for weaker clubs than then, but seem to be better as a team. "We weren't bad as a team" responsed Kozminski quickly, seemingly hurted with previous opinion. After game with Germany Tomasz Hajto started to criticise current players for "not having guts to speak to journalists now" (personally Jacek Bak if I am right). And added that he had guts in 2002. It is sad that we can mainly remember his participation in this tournament from stupid and brutal foul on Portuguese.

Maybe even those who didn't play on World Cups at all - "lost generation" of 90's with Kosecki, Brzeczek, Ziober etc - would be more objective than their younger colleagues who failed to impress in finals. I feel a bit of bitterness in them and I am not fully sure if they really wish all good to our players.

quality post, my thoughts are the same :cool:

footyfan1
09 Jun 2008, 05:56 AM
What? You mean using the burned chicken as my avatar? No problem. :D

LMAO!! Good one!! :D

Projekt4
09 Jun 2008, 06:30 AM
Question to Poland supporters, which parts of your team do you think generallyare the strongest and which are somewhat weaker ?