Why don't players want to stay at Arsenal?

[ScottyB]

First Flamini left, now Hleb is probably on his way out. I believe Milan offered Flamini more money than Arsenal, but it sounds like Hleb would get comparable offers from Arsenal and Inter.

What gives?

[Teso Dos Bichos]

Wenger. He just doesn't like taking that final step.

[John K]

Arsenal's lack of ambition.

[leg_breaker]

They're just cheap. One of the richest clubs in the world, raking in the cash from every possible avenue, no transfer fee expenses, and they're tight as a duck's arse.

[Harry Boulton]

They don't appear willing to pay the market prices for wrld class players.

Example:

Drgoba is on a bout £100,000 a week at Chelsea. Torres is on about £80,000 a week at Liverpool and Rooney is on about £90,000 a week at Man Utd.

Adebayor is on about £33,000 a week at Arsenal. He mst feel pretty hacked off that he's being paid a third of what his comtemporaries are being paid. Hleb, also, is on a fraction of what Ronaldo and Joe Cole are on.

Cheap skates.........

[sinner78]

Cheap skates.........

I guess they would rather see the suits/board members get the money than the players.
lets face it ,they aint poor.

[GriffinGunner]

First Flamini left, now Hleb is probably on his way out. I believe Milan offered Flamini more money than Arsenal, but it sounds like Hleb would get comparable offers from Arsenal and Inter.

What gives?Holy s***! It's a mass exodus! Has any club survived the loss of two players in the same off-season?!?! :eek:

Arsenal's lack of ambition.Agreed. The move to Emirates clearly shows the club has consigned itself to middling status.

They're just cheap. One of the richest clubs in the world, raking in the cash from every possible avenue, no transfer fee expenses, and they're tight as a duck's arse.You mean apart from having the third highest wages in the league 2 season's ago (latest I've seen released) and the fact they're still paying the debts for the new digs and Highbury's renovations. Other than that, they're lapping the oil companies in revenue, right?

They don't appear willing to pay the market prices for wrld class players.

Example:

Drgoba is on a bout £100,000 a week at Chelsea. Torres is on about £80,000 a week at Liverpool and Rooney is on about £90,000 a week at Man Utd.

Adebayor is on about £33,000 a week at Arsenal. He mst feel pretty hacked off that he's being paid a third of what his comtemporaries are being paid. Hleb, also, is on a fraction of what Ronaldo and Joe Cole are on.

Cheap skates.........And we all know that before this season every one of you would've handed Adebayor a contract worth twice that, right? Or that Arsenal won't ever offer him an upgrade?

I guess they would rather see the suits/board members get the money than the players.
lets face it ,they aint poor.Perhaps they should enter into the levels of debt Liverpool and ManU have right now. That whole notion of needing to qualify for the Champions League just to make the interest payments for your loans sounds really keen!









:rolleyes:

[Teso Dos Bichos]

At least he agreed with my comment.

[Twix]

Their highest paid player is Gallas with £60,000 a week. Says it all really.

If Wenger wants to keep or attract the top talent, then he's going to have to spout a pair and break the bank.

[Kazuma]

Arsenal have just lost two(?) players. Geez.

[M.O.T]

I read that Adebayor was/is unhappy at Arsenal because of his wages. It didn't mention how much he made, but 33,000? For the second/third highest goalscorer in the league? I would be unhappy too.
Does anyone know were all that excess money go. Surely it isn't debt, is it?

I'll look for the story.

[TheArgonaut]

I read that Adebayor was/is unhappy at Arsenal because of his wages. It didn't mention how much he made, but 33,000? For the second/third highest goalscorer in the league? I would be unhappy too.
Does anyone know were all that excess money go. Surely it isn't debt, is it?

I'll look for the story.


Maybe you should look for the article that disproves the point about Adebayor being unhappy at Arsenal. Oh, wait, I'll do it for you....Adebayor-Reports I want out are rubbish (http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=news&article=491302&cpid=703&title=Adebayor+-+Reports+I+want+out+are+%27rubbish%27)

Adebayor on Arsenal.com:

"I am very happy here. Reports which suggest I have threatened to quit are rubbish. I love the club and the fans.
"We have a great set of players here with a fantastic team spirit. We have had a good season but next season we want to go one better by winning a trophy."


This thread is exactly why you should only believe about .5% of what you read in the English press. There is no exodus and there will be no exodus. Flamini left on a free and Lehmann was on his last year at the club anyways. If Arsenal can survive the departure of Thierry Henry (a player who's departure, according to the English press was supposed to doom us to a UEFA Cup place this season), then Arsenal can survive Flamini's departure. Keep in mind Flamini is a player who we tried to sell to Birmingham last year and they wouldn't take him!

Their highest paid player is Gallas with £60,000 a week. Says it all really.

If Wenger wants to keep or attract the top talent, then he's going to have to spout a pair and break the bank.

Perhaps the criticisms of Arsenal's spending policy should come from a person who doesn't support a club with nearly 1 billion pounds of debt (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/may/06/manchesterunited.premierleague)? (£820 million....£764m to creditors and £56m to other clubs for outstanding transfer fees). Also the fact that Man. United can't even afford to pay the interest on their debt to the banks and other creditors. With operating losses of £58m a year, it would only take a couple years where Man. United don't win the league (I know, crazy talk right?) before Man. United's debt becomes even more unmanageable than it already is.

[Harry Boulton]

It's not just two players though, is it? If you read into the players who have left Arsenal in the last 10 years it reads like a who's-who of European football.

Anelka, Petit, Overmars, Vieira, Henry, Flamini has just walked out, Hleb apparently wants too, Cole walked because Arsenal wouldn't pay him what he wanted. It's not a mystery.

Arsenal are a well run club, but Wengers policy of tryimng to attain success on the cheap is flawed at times. 3 seasons trophyless, from the countries best run club.........

[Twix]

Perhaps the criticisms of Arsenal's spending policy should come from a person who doesn't support a club with nearly 1 billion pounds of debt (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/may/06/manchesterunited.premierleague)? (£820 million....£764m to creditors and £56m to other clubs for outstanding transfer fees). Also the fact that Man. United can't even afford to pay the interest on their debt to the banks and other creditors. With operating losses of £58m a year, it would only take a couple years where Man. United don't win the league (I know, crazy talk right?) before Man. United's debt becomes even more unmanageable than it already is.

I always love it when some random f*cktard brings up the "but you support x team so you can't say that!!11" argument. It's weak and it deviates from the point at hand.

This poorly constructed rant has nothing to do with my comments or the point of this thread and anyways, it was also a misinformed attempt at a dig at my club as well.

Try harder next time, though.

This thread is exactly why you should only believe about .5% of what you read in the English press. There is no exodus and there will be no exodus. Flamini left on a free and Lehmann was on his last year at the club anyways. If Arsenal can survive the departure of Thierry Henry (a player who's departure, according to the English press was supposed to doom us to a UEFA Cup place this season), then Arsenal can survive Flamini's departure. Keep in mind Flamini is a player who we tried to sell to Birmingham last year and they wouldn't take him!

After you sold Vieira, what have you won?

After you sold Cashley Cole, what have you won?

After you sold Thierry Henry, what have you won?

You can try and mimimalize Flamini's influence on your side as much as you want, but if Wenger still wants to compete with the elite teams, then he's going to have keep his star players while adding more star performers in the transfer window. If Flamini's departure is the beginning of a trend, you might have to be content with a few more barren years.

[Harry Boulton]

Flamini was hardy Scholes or Fabregas, but he was Arszenals most improved player this year along with Adebayor and his loss cannot be under stated.

He was an important part of a midfield that looked to be very promising. Wenger needs to invest. His decisoin to sell Lassana Diarra looks very silly indeed..........

[Harry Boulton]

The fact that Hleb was another one of Arsenals most imoproved players this year and wants to leave should be cuase for concern.

Of Arsenals improvement this year 3 of their most influential players have been Adebayor, Hleb and Flamini. Now we're looking at the very real possibility of 2 of those 3 leaving. Where does that leave Arsenal?.......

[GriffinGunner]

The fact that Hleb was another one of Arsenals most imoproved players this year and wants to leave should be cuase for concern.Last I checked Hleb was still with the team...

Of Arsenals improvement this year 3 of their most influential players have been Adebayor, Hleb and Flamini. Now we're looking at the very real possibility of 2 of those 3 leaving. Where does that leave Arsenal?.......Presumably with another 20+ players that also contributed to the successes, and with some funds to replace anybody that leaves.

Considering Arsenal has, what, only 1-3 players remaining on the team that were with them during the unbeaten prem run of a few years ago I'd say the club knows how to manage the transfer market, thank you very much. But thanks for the concern. Cheers! :)

[Clint Eastwood]

Are Arsenal willing to pay 80-100 pounds/week to get a top-of-the-line talent? That's how much you need to spend nowadays to bring in a Torres or Drogba.

Arsenal were in the Champions League final in 2006, so I don't think anybody can say their current strategy isn't working.

If I was an Arsenal fan, I'd simply look at the bazillions of pounds ManU and Chelsea are spending on world-class players. Would it shock anybody if ManU went out and picked up Alves from Sevilla, and Berbatov this off-season? If Arsenal don't start splashing the cash, the gap between those two and Arsenal will continue to grow. I'm a big fan of Wenger's approach to developing world-class players an not buying them. Then you splash the cash on 2 big names in the off-season, and you have the makings of a contending squad.

[GriffinGunner]

Perhaps, but at the same time I'd rather not see further stratification of clubs. If the EPL truly is moving towards "Spend billions or drop off" then I'd rather Arsenal tote the high road and simply do the best they can with modest means. No sense keeping up with the Jonses if they're overpaying for talent and distorting the game.

[Travarelli]

Players? Shouldn't you wait until there actually is an exodus before asking this question? Seems a bit premature.