Most overrated manager in the premiership?

[roykeanes_safc]

For me it has to be Rafa Benitez.

At Liverpool he has come nowhere near winning the premiership yet is held as a legend among liverpool fans because of hs success in Europe. He has wasted millions of pounds of flops and will never win the premiership.

He is currently after Gareth Barry, a player who is a worse holding player than Macherano, a worse passer than Alonso and not as good going forward as gerrard. The reason behind this is likely because Alonso is leaving but signing Barry would weaken Liverpool further.

His only success came from a very lucky campaign, not once did Liverpool look the better team in any of their ties when they won it.

[ApproachWithCaution]

Agree about Benitez. But Keegan isn't far behind. Messiah? You're having a laugh Geordies!

[roykeanes_safc]

Agree about Benitez. But Keegan isn't far behind. Messiah? You're having a laugh Geordies!

Shhh we dont want to advertise that.

Keegan does have one thing going for him, he does inspire players which has been the reason over the mags recent good form. However the man is so out of his depth tatically and can only throw money at problems. After 18 months of "entertaining football" he will be back to losing millions on Scottish football academys.

Id be shocked if Owen signs a new contract, a man who slated Keegan in his autobiography will soon turn on him if a big club comes calling this summer.

[Toon³]

Agree about Benitez. But Keegan isn't far behind. Messiah? You're having a laugh Geordies!

Please, will you show me one Newcastle fan that has ever called him that? I think you'll actually find that the vast majority of Newcastle fans have never actually called him that and more than a few of us were sceptical at his appointment.

As for him being overrated I really don't see how you can think this, he took over a team who were in real trouble of being relegated to division 3 and within a year he'd turned them into a team that went 18 games unbeaten at the start of the season and we then promoted.

In the first season of being in the premier league he took a newly promoted team to 3rd while playing some of the most attractive football your ever likely too see. Built on this success by building a team that really should have won the league but ended up being runners up twice.

Oh and he's also taken Fulham and Man City from being nothing clubs in lower divisions and getting them into the premier league.

Then lets fast forward to today where he's turned a team round who once again looked likely candidates for relegation and has got them playing nice flowing attacking football.

You may not like Keegan but you have to be a complete ********ing moron to first of all believe anything written in the national press about Newcastle fans views or opinions and to think that Keegan is overrated by anyone effected by his skill as a manager.

Looking for overrated...how about Roy Keane. £40 million in transfer fees just to scrape survival in the league. Some of the most hillarious signings since the days of Peter Reid and if it wasn't for the last 5 minutes of the game they'd be right in the shit.

[roykeanes_safc]

Please, will you show me one Newcastle fan that has ever called him that? I think you'll actually find that the vast majority of Newcastle fans have never actually called him that and more than a few of us were sceptical at his appointment.

As for him being overrated I really don't see how you can think this, he took over a team who were in real trouble of being relegated to division 3 and within a year he'd turned them into a team that went 18 games unbeaten at the start of the season and we then promoted.

In the first season of being in the premier league he took a newly promoted team to 3rd while playing some of the most attractive football your ever likely too see. Built on this success by building a team that really should have won the league but ended up being runners up twice.

Oh and he's also taken Fulham and Man City from being nothing clubs in lower divisions and getting them into the premier league.

Then lets fast forward to today where he's turned a team round who once again looked likely candidates for relegation and has got them playing nice flowing attacking football.

You may not like Keegan but you have to be a complete ********ing moron to first of all believe anything written in the national press about Newcastle fans views or opinions and to think that Keegan is overrated by anyone effected by his skill as a manager.

Looking for overrated...how about Roy Keane. £40 million in transfer fees just to scrape survival in the league. Some of the most hillarious signings since the days of Peter Reid and if it wasn't for the last 5 minutes of the game they'd be right in the shit.

Poor attempt 2/10

Keegan had money at all of those clubs, in division one you paid bristol city 2m for cole which was a great signing but an obscene amout of money at the time.

fulham and man city both threw money at him he bought teams not build them. You comment on his skill as a manager but what exactly has he won at those clubs?

After leaving the england job he is quoted as saying he is tatically poor as a manager and your "form" has been a couple of wins agaisnt relegation contenders judging by the squad Newcastle have they should always win.

As for your keane jibe i fail to see how he is overated? A net spend of 43 million pounds from taking over the worst team in premiership history who were bottom of the championship and winless in the opening 6 games is overrated?

Joke signings of Jones, gordon, bardsley, Reid?

Even Chopras been value for money when you look at Nugent.

The only waste of money ill give you are halford and mcshane and higginbotham but we will get good fees back on those players and were hardly massive signings.

Considering you lot have 6m Smith - has he scored yet?

Damien Sick note Duff - 5m

Joey murderer Barton 6m

Id keep your mouth shut.

[england66]

Agree about Benitez. But Keegan isn't far behind. Messiah? You're having a laugh Geordies!


Gary Megson.....for at least one more season.

[Clint Eastwood]

Warning: I'm an American so disregard this opinion.

The most overrated manager in the prem is by far Rafael Benitez. With his players and the money at Liverpool, 4th doesn't cut it. (for me anyway)
He'll be off to Madrid this summer, though.

The most underrated is probably David Moyes. I hear people slobbering all over the greatness of Martin O'Neill and Harry Redknapp. Let's look at the table shall we.......

[Toon³]

Poor attempt 2/10

Keegan had money at all of those clubs, in division one you paid bristol city 2m for cole which was a great signing but an obscene amout of money at the time.

fulham and man city both threw money at him he bought teams not build them. You comment on his skill as a manager but what exactly has he won at those clubs?

After leaving the england job he is quoted as saying he is tatically poor as a manager and your "form" has been a couple of wins agaisnt relegation contenders judging by the squad Newcastle have they should always win.

As for your keane jibe i fail to see how he is overated? A net spend of 43 million pounds from taking over the worst team in premiership history who were bottom of the championship and winless in the opening 6 games is overrated?

Joke signings of Jones, gordon, bardsley, Reid?

Even Chopras been value for money when you look at Nugent.

The only waste of money ill give you are halford and mcshane and higginbotham but we will get good fees back on those players and were hardly massive signings.

Considering you lot have 6m Smith - has he scored yet?

Damien Sick note Duff - 5m

Joey murderer Barton 6m

Id keep your mouth shut.

Hi, Duff, Barton and Smith....remind me who actual signed them? Oh right it wasn't Keegan. Nice attempt moving the subject off topic.

You can use the 'what has he won' subject all day long but who apart from Fergie, Wenger, Dalglish and Mourinho has actually won anything of real significance? Every single one of those teams has thrown money at winning the title just the same as Newcastle did apart from we bottled it.

Jones? Done ******** all apart from pop up for the odd header

Gordon? Most expensive keeper in Britain....lol

Bardsley? nice cast off from Man Utd who was done nothing but prove he isn't good enough.

Reid? Greggs must be going twenty to the dozen to keep him satisfied with the amount of pies he eats.

Lets face it, your arguements against Keegan are piss weak just like everything to come out of Albania on Wear.

[Prenn]

Gary Megson.....for at least one more season.

A pointless dig, he's done the job he was brought in to do. Admittedly I couldn't see him doing that a month ago but he's done it. If anything you've made yourself look a little foolish with that post as he's not been rated by anyone and has exceeded expectations.

[roykeanes_safc]

Hi, Duff, Barton and Smith....remind me who actual signed them? Oh right it wasn't Keegan. Nice attempt moving the subject off topic.

You can use the 'what has he won' subject all day long but who apart from Fergie, Wenger, Dalglish and Mourinho has actually won anything of real significance? Every single one of those teams has thrown money at winning the title just the same as Newcastle did apart from we bottled it.

Jones? Done ******** all apart from pop up for the odd header

Gordon? Most expensive keeper in Britain....lol

Bardsley? nice cast off from Man Utd who was done nothing but prove he isn't good enough.

Reid? Greggs must be going twenty to the dozen to keep him satisfied with the amount of pies he eats.

Lets face it, your arguements against Keegan are piss weak just like everything to come out of Albania on Wear.

, Redknapp, Graham, Royle, Atkinson

all british manager who have or will win something when Keegan has been manager, all at clubs where they were given no where near the amount of money keegan was given at newcastle.

Ill not even comment on your assesment of our players because you clearly havent seen much of them.

Yes you are right you did bottle the title and who was in charge? Shows how thick the geordie nation are, he wasnt good enough 15 years ago but is now all of a sudden in a more cutthroat premiership and has shown he has the mental strength of 5 year old on more than one occasion.

When the going gets tough the keegan gets going. Good luck trying to appoint your new manager next august or will it be xmas.

[sendorange]

Megson has done the job he was hired for, not only that but after having to sell their best striker in January and without being able to replace him. To manage that and stay up is a very good achievement and they did well in his UEFA cup games as well, if they didn't rest players against Sporting for the Prem games could possibly have gone even further.

I'd say:

1. Keegan - never won a trophy, bottled it first time at Newcastle, failed at Man City.

2. Benitez - great tactician, but massive amounts of money spent and ********s around too much with his team selections in the Prem. To be closer in points to 8th than 1st sums it up.

3. O'Neil - very competent, but yet again he's making another Celtic/Leicester out of Villa. Just solid boring football, lots of crosses and setpieces into the box. Gets hyped as world class when he hasn't shown enough to deserve that. Even Gordon Strachan has taken Celtic further in the Champions League than O'Neil managed, and he was not lucky enough to inherit a prime Larsson.

[england66]

A pointless dig, he's done the job he was brought in to do. Admittedly I couldn't see him doing that a month ago but he's done it. If anything you've made yourself look a little foolish with that post as he's not been rated by anyone and has exceeded expectations.

Thats a crock and you know it. The expectations were that he'd get Bolton to mid table at least.

[Toon³]

, Redknapp, Graham, Royle, Atkinson

all british manager who have or will win something when Keegan has been manager, all at clubs where they were given no where near the amount of money keegan was given at newcastle.

Ill not even comment on your assesment of our players because you clearly havent seen much of them.

Yes you are right you did bottle the title and who was in charge? Shows how thick the geordie nation are, he wasnt good enough 15 years ago but is now all of a sudden in a more cutthroat premiership and has shown he has the mental strength of 5 year old on more than one occasion.

When the going gets tough the keegan gets going. Good luck trying to appoint your new manager next august or will it be xmas.

The only ones appointing a new manager next season will be you lot when you finally realise that the Irish rent-a-mob are full of shit and start to panic when it finally dawns on them that they've just pissed £40 million or probably £80 million by then down the swaney and are desperate to get out.

No doubt Keano will be commenting on the US presidential race or the situation in Iraq rather than football.

[lost]

all british managers are shit and therefore over rated, except fergie.

[Prenn]

Thats a crock and you know it. The expectations were that he'd get Bolton to mid table at least.

Bullshit, he was expected to get us relegated. When he was appointed the reaction was derision and laughter, out of the frying pan and into the fire sums it up perfectly. Even the vast, vast majority of Bolton fans thought the move ensured our relegation. The only person in the country who expected us to survive with him in charge was Phil Gartside. Midtable? I have no idea where the hell you've got that from, it's DPT material!

We were bottom when he took over, we had 5 points. Megson made three crucial signings in the winter transfer window: Taylor, Steinsson and Cahill. We beat United at home, drew with Bayern Munich in Munich, beat Ateltico Madrid and became the first team to win in Belgrade. We have also managed to survive this season.

Whether you like Megson or not he's done better than nearly everyone expected so in no way is he overrated.

[The Potter]

For me it has to be Rafa Benitez.

At Liverpool he has come nowhere near winning the premiership yet is held as a legend among liverpool fans because of hs success in Europe. He has wasted millions of pounds of flops and will never win the premiership.

He is currently after Gareth Barry, a player who is a worse holding player than Macherano, a worse passer than Alonso and not as good going forward as gerrard. The reason behind this is likely because Alonso is leaving but signing Barry would weaken Liverpool further.

His only success came from a very lucky campaign, not once did Liverpool look the better team in any of their ties when they won it.

This seems to be a common sentiment, but what exactly has Alonso done in the past couple of seasons to regarded higher than Barry? Every time I see him he does fck all. If this was an overrated player thread he'd be my pick, entirely living off past glories.

[Big Soccer Member]

Shhh we dont want to advertise that.

Keegan does have one thing going for him, he does inspire players which has been the reason over the mags recent good form. However the man is so out of his depth tatically and can only throw money at problems. After 18 months of "entertaining football" he will be back to losing millions on Scottish football academys.

Id be shocked if Owen signs a new contract, a man who slated Keegan in his autobiography will soon turn on him if a big club comes calling this summer.
Keegan is not out of deth tactically. This season for example, he did what no other manager could and recognised Owen is more than just a goal getter. He convered him into a play maker at the age of 28, whilst simultanoesly creating a new system that has sured up a leaky back four and sorted out the 3 strikers problem. You don't realise how much better he is tactically than BIG SHAM.

[ApproachWithCaution]

I'd say:

1. Keegan - never won a trophy, bottled it first time at Newcastle, failed at Man City.

And he was an awful England manager. Or has everyone put that disastrous period in history to the back of their minds?

While i'm here, i'd also like to nominate Ian Dowie. The man is a terrible manager. Yet he continues to get jobs. How? Why?

[fernb8]

nice to the Northerners take a break from breeding whippets to have a good old fashioned row

:D

agreed with the majority of the candidates, with Rafa heading my list.

the Megson comments are borderline comical. I dont know one person who thought that was a good appointment and followed that thought with a quick "well at least Bolton are getting ready for next season... in the Championship"

Megson has done very well and if anything exceeded expectations by guiding Bolton to almost safety with one game to go. They were in the shyte when he was appointed and dont forget had a spell where they took 1 point from a possible 27! Fair play to Megson who IMO has exceeded all expectations of him.

Quite suprised to see hardly any talk of the job Bruce has done at Wigan. IMO a legitimate candidate for Manager of the Year. Another team really in the shyte who are playing good stuff atm.

[RichardL]

There are plenty of drama queen darlings on the main Reading FC site who'd no doubt throw Coppell's name into the hat at this current moment in time.

In their defence, history has shown that when things go awry, oil tanker captains do tend to turn things round faster than he does, and his recent admission that he had money to spend, but chose not to as he thought it would be unfair on the players that had done so well previously, hasn't done him any favours.