VfB Stuttgart-Deutscher Meister 07 Thread 07/08 part 2 [R]

[benztown]

The new coach at Barca could really impact what happens to Gomez. It's already been confirmed that he's ready to shake up the line-up and has been quoted as looking for a #9 as his top priority this summer. Looks like Deco, Eto'o and Ronaldinho could all be on their way out, which would give them plenty of cash to take a shot at Gomez without thinking twice about it. Just because the Bayern thing is heating up doesn't mean Barca is dead.

If Gomez should leave, I just wish it's not to Bayern...

[Vfbstuttgartfan]

At the end of the day that's pretty much where I stand as well...

[kaiser kraut]

I think we can all agree on that point. I have always disliked seeing anybody who has contributed to VfB success end up moving to Bayern.

In the US, I always compare them as Germany's version of the Yankees, and many people in the US treat the Yankees the same way as many people in Germany treat Bayern. There are glory chasers who love the Yankees no matter where they are from and who have never been to a Yankees' game or even been to New York City or lived near by. Then there are people who hate the Yankees because they dislike the way the Yankees just out-spend the other teams, dislike the glory hunters, dislike the elitist attitude of the Yankees, etc. I think many people in Germany (and maybe this impression is wrong) can be classified into similar categories when talking about Bayern.

[aloisius]

The new coach at Barca could really impact what happens to Gomez. It's already been confirmed that he's ready to shake up the line-up and has been quoted as looking for a #9 as his top priority this summer. Looks like Deco, Eto'o and Ronaldinho could all be on their way out, which would give them plenty of cash to take a shot at Gomez without thinking twice about it. Just because the Bayern thing is heating up doesn't mean Barca is dead.

Stuttgart have already confirmed they'll be meeting with bayern to negotiate the gomez deal.

basicly , it's only about the price now. if gomez hadn't allredy decide to go to bayern , it wouldn't have come this far.

[Vfbstuttgartfan]

Yes, it seems like Gomez is certainly gonna leave now, and out of all his options, it seems he's decided to go with the only that would completely destroy his reputation in Stuttgart. So, our best player of the last 5-10 years(imo) it seems now gboes to Bayern, it just makes me really really sad, even though it isn't confirmed yet.

I wonder how Gomez could do this when he had other options, was still so young with lots of growing left to do, he still has a long contract, he became German Champion with VfB! He played in the Cup Final... what could he accomplish in Bayern that would be so great?? Winning the Champions League?! The odds of that happening are very small...

And btw, i'll add its been absolutely wonderful of Bayern to do all this right during the Euros, it's clearly affected Gomez's performance throughout and thereby clearly weakened Germany's ability - not as if ScheissBayern cares, its not their problem. I just ********ing hate that side, and their ********ing characterless fans(how can you bring yourself to support them of all sides? Especially all the Americans here...). Ugh. Massive rage here, the kind you can only get against Bayern.

but yeah, if my comments seem premature, i'll admit i've now no more hope of holding onto Gomez, and to be honest i've also lost almost all my respect for him over the course of the last 7 days, and that has nothing to do with his performance.


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So i'll switch to another player. Reports coming in that a certain unknown club is heading in to buy our captain Fernando Meira. He's been in transfer a lot all throughout his time at VfB without actually ever moving so I don't know how reliable this is, but it does seem he will be transferring as well. At least, it will probably be to a foreign club.

If these reports are true, Arne Friedrich is reported to be Heldt's preferred option for filling up Meira's spot. And to be honest, a Delpierre-Friedrich/Tasci central defense sounds just fine to me, so I would be perfectly happy with such a solution, not to mention that we'd get more money for Meira than we'd have to pay for Friedrich.

[kaback99]

i still don't think Gomez is coming to us at Bayern. we have no use for him unless he would like to join Podolski on the bench...

[footyfan1]

And btw, i'll add its been absolutely wonderful of Bayern to do all this right during the Euros, it's clearly affected Gomez's performance throughout and thereby clearly weakened Germany's ability - not as if ScheissBayern cares, its not their problem. I just ********ing hate that side, and their ********ing characterless fans(how can you bring yourself to support them of all sides? Especially all the Americans here...). Ugh. Massive rage here, the kind you can only get against Bayern.



Many of the Americans my age here like Bayern because of our getting to see Franz play in the USA back in the day. At least that is my story as a former Bayern fan.

However, once I got over here and met many of their fans and saw what that club is/was all about, it turned my stomach.

To this day, Bayern is the only club I've ever walked away from. The amazing amount of cheating they did back in the 90s and early 2000s combined with the arrogance and sense of entitlement from their fans just drove me away.

However, I do show respect for them these days because they are the best managed club in Germany and many of their fans here at BigSoccer just don't know any better and don't care to know any better.

Then, just as you have here in Germany, you have those who are simply "bandwagon jumpers" or those who just want to "support" a team who wins all the time.

Those are the ones I can't stand and they are the easiest to spot even here at BigSoccer.

[BlinderPassagier]

i still don't think Gomez is coming to us at Bayern. we have no use for him unless he would like to join Podolski on the bench...

Weakening other BL sides through acquiring their best players, no matter what their future might be in Bayern. You're right that doesn't sound like our dear Bavarians at all!

[footyfan1]

Weakening other BL sides through acquiring their best players, no matter what their future might be in Bayern. You're right that doesn't sound like our dear Bavarians at all!

You've got it. As much as they love to profess their love for German football, they make sure they at least try to destroy any club who comes close to their supremacy.

I'm embarrassed because they didn't have to do it to Dortmund. We killed ourselves.

[kaback99]

hey i was just thinking logically, my real feeling has always been Bayern needs to have the best

[benztown]

I just think that it would be in Gomez best interest NOT to go to Bayern. It seems as if he has so many options, Bayern is by far the worst for his development. Just ask Poldi, Schlaudraff, Rau and all those other young German internationals, that took at least two steps into the wrong direction after joining Bayern.

With Poldi, Klose, Toni and Gomez upfront, how often does he think he's actually playing?

[footyfan1]

I just think that it would be in Gomez best interest NOT to go to Bayern. It seems as if he has so many options, Bayern is by far the worst for his development. Just ask Poldi, Schlaudraff, Rau and all those other young German internationals, that took at least two steps into the wrong direction after joining Bayern.

With Poldi, Klose, Toni and Gomez upfront, how often does he think he's actually playing?

Actually, they may sell Podolski. And I really don't expect Klose to finish his contract there either, though he won't go anywhere this season.

Those two really just don't "fit" at Bayern......

[Projekt4]

Gomez needs to be careful with that move. Maybe learn a few lessons from the Euros. He'll never get the goal ratios he can get at Stuttgart in a team that is tactically geared towards providing the kind of service which Luca Toni needs to score.

[kaiser kraut]

If this does happen, it will just cement my hatrid for Bayern even more than ever. I'll be very disappointed in Gomez for taking this option if this is what happens.

Maybe I'm a little to sentimental, and maybe a little old-fashioned, but I still believe that some of the best players for a club are the ones that play for the badge on their chest, the ones that bleed the club colors. These players don't voluntarily go to other clubs within the same league (exceptions occur when a players contract is not renewed, work permit or lifestyle status restricts their abroad options severely, or a transfer is forced). It's such a stab in the back of the fans to betray us like Judas and go to a team like BM. It just seems to exude a total lack of class. I understand wanting to make the big bucks, and wanting to hit big contracts in your prime and when your market value is highest, but in Gomez's case, do it outside the Bundesliga.

[footyfan1]

Gomez needs to be careful with that move. Maybe learn a few lessons from the Euros. He'll never get the goal ratios he can get at Stuttgart in a team that is tactically geared towards providing the kind of service which Luca Toni needs to score.


Actually, I think Gomez' and Toni's games are a lot alike. Mario is younger, faster and can do more with the ball himself, but their games are not really so different.

They would not play together of course. They both would play with Klose.

Where Mario would lose out is playing time. Based on their performances of this past season, Toni would probably play the most.

[Projekt4]

Actually, I think Gomez' and Toni's games are a lot alike. Mario is younger, faster and can do more with the ball himself, but their games are not really so different.

They would not play together of course. They both would play with Klose.

Where Mario would lose out is playing time. Based on their performances of this past season, Toni would probably play the most.

I think they are fairly different because Gomez scores mostly while outrunning defenders at full speed whereas Toni is the ideal guy to put into a crowded penalty area, quicker and more precise with his first touch and finish. Which is why I think this is a dubious move for Gomez as besieging Bundesliga opponents' penalty areas is exactly Bayern's weekly business.

[footyfan1]

I think they are fairly different because Gomez scores mostly while outrunning defenders at full speed whereas Toni is the ideal guy to put into a crowded penalty area, quicker and more precise with his first touch and finish. Which is why I think this is a dubious move for Gomez as besieging Bundesliga opponents' penalty areas is exactly Bayern's weekly business.


Dude, I guess you didn't see how many goals Toni scored on moving attacks this season, did you???

That's what I stated by Mario being faster and can do more with the ball himself.

Sure, Toni did score a lot of his goals just the way you stated, but he did some scoring on breaks too.

If you don't believe that, just watch the Cup Final again......

[benztown]

Apparently, Stuttgart has ended talks with Bayern about a Gomez transfer. So as it stands, Gomez will stay and with his Euro performance, other big teams might think about it twice, to pay a huge sum for him.

[Vfbstuttgartfan]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gomez stays for now, VfB owns ScheissBayern:

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/artikel/379987/




I'm so happy he won't be going to Bayern! :)
Good chances we'll keep him now, with his performance so far at the euros he won't be top of the list for most of Europe's best sides, at least not this year, so I think he may well remain with us for another season.

And even if he did leave, i'll still sleep peacefully knowing that it wasn't to ScheissBayern!

[squidward123]

I wouldn't be that happy about it because he still wanted to go didn't he? It was the management that stopped him.