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jmeissen0
12 Aug 2002, 06:01 AM
13 and i think last count had him at about 5'7" or 6"


so anyone bother to watch the little league world series with 12 year olds???

anyone???

damn, i was hoping someone took note of that 5'10" 165lb pitcher and he is 12... there were a few kids freddy's size or bigger


are they all fibbing about their age too??

i'm really confused now, i'm going to sit down

Elninho
12 Aug 2002, 06:03 AM
Freddy Adu is listed at 5'8", 140 lbs. A bit smaller than Landon Donovan.

jmeissen0
12 Aug 2002, 07:16 AM
close enough... and yet still a year older than those little leaguers bigger than him

galperin
12 Aug 2002, 08:42 AM
good god...give this a rest.

nobody
12 Aug 2002, 08:55 AM
Considering that I was 6' 185 lbs at 14 I think all the speculation that it's just absurd that a kid could be 5' 8" 140 lbs at 13 is laughable. And, when I entered high school, there were several kids in my calss as big or bigger than me. Look at high school freshman that play basketball. Practically every team from a school with a decent amount of students has several guys 14 over 6'.

I, like most everyone else on here, have no real idea what Freddy's age is, but anyone who thinks they can build a case that he's lying on his size alone is really stretching things quite a bit.

jmeissen0
12 Aug 2002, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by galperin
good god...give this a rest.

umm... you do realize i am not saying he is older than what he says

right?


you do realize that people are still whining about him being older than 13


right?



thus you see the light

i hope

jmeissen0
12 Aug 2002, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by nobody
Considering that I was 6' 185 lbs at 14 I think all the speculation that it's just absurd that a kid could be 5' 8" 140 lbs at 13 is laughable. And, when I entered high school, there were several kids in my calss as big or bigger than me. Look at high school freshman that play basketball. Practically every team from a school with a decent amount of students has several guys 14 over 6'.


aye, i remembered playing kids going into the 7th grade dunking on me in summer tournaments

usagoal
12 Aug 2002, 10:36 AM
Talking about Adu's age is getting old.... :D

Warzycha
12 Aug 2002, 10:41 AM
I suppose in reality, his age doesn't matter. He is on the U-17 team, and I think we all agree he is not 17 years old. I think US Soccer will be smart enough to play him several years ahead of his age (ie U-17 at 13, U-21 at 16, U-23 at 19), so if anything ever comes out about him being older, he will have never been an illegal, over age player. The point is moot, he's good and he'll help us win!

GoDC
12 Aug 2002, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Warzycha
I suppose in reality, his age doesn't matter. He is on the U-17 team, and I think we all agree he is not 17 years old. I think US Soccer will be smart enough to play him several years ahead of his age (ie U-17 at 13, U-21 at 16, U-23 at 19), so if anything ever comes out about him being older, he will have never been an illegal, over age player. The point is moot, he's good and he'll help us win!

I disagree. Heard he was 18.

eric515
12 Aug 2002, 11:51 AM
I heard he was really 30 and his mom is really his wife, and his brother is really his son. :D

superdave
12 Aug 2002, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by eric515
I heard he was really 30 and his mom is really his wife, and his brother is really his son. :D
Jack Nicholson was great in that.

superdave
12 Aug 2002, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Warzycha
The point is moot, he's good and he'll help us win!
It's moot as far as us getting sanctioned. But it does matter.

It does. It does. It does. It does.

If he's legitimately 13 years old, then he's better than all the kids up to 3 years older than him. That makes him potentially the next Maradona.

If he's actually 16, then what is he? The best player of his age in the US. That makes him a potential Landon Donovan.

I hope I don't come across as a Eurosnob when I point out the huge difference there.

My Left Foot
12 Aug 2002, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by superdave

Jack Nicholson was great in that.

Forget it Dave, it's just Ghanatown.

AndyMead
12 Aug 2002, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by My Left Foot


Forget it Dave, it's just Ghanatown.

Sockpuppet alert

Lab Mouse
12 Aug 2002, 03:01 PM
My brother was 5'10" and over 200 pounds coming out of eighth grade. He got recruited for the school wrestling team and went 275 lb class from freshman year on. He didn't grow much after that, either. He played lineman on the football team and also did competitive weightlifting.

SO...Freddy's stats are not that unlikely.

ball handler
12 Aug 2002, 07:52 PM
it doesn't really matter. I mean he's gonna be good no matter what his age is. my opinion is that he is around 15 or 16 years old.

jmeissen0
13 Aug 2002, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by ball handler
it doesn't really matter. I mean he's gonna be good no matter what his age is. my opinion is that he is around 15 or 16 years old.

why?

you said yourself, he would be good regardless of his age... his age is listed at 13... all records say 13

so what makes you think he is 15 or 16... or did you roll dice for that

did i mention that all records say 13, yet you said 15 or 16... what the hell is this number from?

is it from being smaller than most of the people in your highschool at the that age, yet the same size as freddy (current size for him)... so that must be his size??? wtf

JohnR
13 Aug 2002, 10:09 AM
You guys don't get it on the size thing. I don't want to hear about some fat boy who weighs 160 lbs. Hell, my 6th grade had a kid 5'10", 180 lbs. You see kids like this all this time. They're called offensive lineman.

What you don't see very damn often are muscle-bound, broad-shouldered 12 year olds who weigh nearly 140 lbs and can run like an adult.

Actually, the U14 team in my club had a kid something like that last year. He was about 5' 5", 140 lbs, strong as an ox, had clearly been in puberty for several years. A man among boys. Maybe he was truly 13 or 14, maybe not (he was from a developing country with poor records, too). But at any rate, he was at such a different level physically from the other kids that he couldn't help but dominate them as long as he had pretty good skills. Which he did. That advantage won't last ... he won't for long be a kid 4 years into puberty playing kids who are just entering puberty.

Regardless of Freddie's age, [i]that[i/] is the issue -- how much of his greatness owes to a temporary maturity advantage that is unsustainable? Clearly, not the majority part, since Freddie is still able to kick butt on U17s. But that's the nutshell of this argument ... if Freddie can maintain his physical superiority, he might be the next Pele or Ronaldo. But if either because his age is misstated or because he matured very, very early, he loses some of his physical advantage over the next few years, then he's just another top U.S. prospect.

We'll know by the time of the next World Cup.

Eliezar
14 Aug 2002, 02:57 AM
As a side note. My friend from Nigerias birth documents claim he is two years younger than he is. His parents said that this is because the infant mortality rate is so high (or is it low) that they weren't issuing documents until kids had lived 24 months. Sounds weird to me, but...

On Freddy Adu let's just watch and see how he performs at the next youth world cup. That will be very important.