B-2 crashes in Guam

[spejic]

Stunning to think that two people have total responsibility over a machine that costs as much as a Navy destroyer or sub.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/us/24crash.html?_r=1&ref=us&oref=slogin

[Shaster]

Stunning to think that two people have total responsibility over a machine that costs as much as a Navy destroyer or sub.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/us/24crash.html?_r=1&ref=us&oref=slogin

Some speculations in Asia Times about this.

I cannot find the English version, so run a Google translator over it. Can be very crude for translation. Chinese military denied this.


"Mysterious sonic weapons," US-made military aircraft shot down several times » Print E-mail
Luo Shao-author
2008/04/09, Wednesday

Nearly six months since the Western Pacific has happened many times over the US-made military aircraft shot down or missing, the U.S. military lost a B2 stealth bomber and three more to the most advanced F22 fighters, Taiwan lost an F16 fighter planes, the latest news is that South Korea also have an air force reconnaissance plane crashed, the accident is a series of individual events, or otherwise the situation »

On these series of US-made military aircraft missing or the cause of the crash, on the Internet have lively discussions and reports, but, like other military sources, are not confirmed. These two statements, one of which is that these planes fly in the airspace of China, China's "Jianshi" fighters shot down the other way even more mysterious, it was quoted that U.S. military experts, some of the missing aircraft was A "mysterious high-energy acoustic weapons" shot down.

April 7, a US-South Korea air force reconnaissance plane crashed into a mountain in the east, the two pilots on board were rescued after an emergency parachute, the South Korean authorities are investigating the cause of the accident, no further information. The evening of March 4, the Taiwan Air Force F16 fighter lost contact off the eastern Hualien, Taiwan's military aircraft at that time will be classified as "missing", after repeated search, still can not be found warplanes and aircraft Secretary, the Taiwan military Has set up a committee to investigate reasons.

February 16, a U.S. B2 stealth bombers, Guam in the Pacific Air Force Base crashed shortly after take-off, two pilots on board the timely pop-up cockpit security, which is B2 stealth bombers service, the first crash occurred, the United States The military has set up a committee to investigate reasons.

Leaving aside the latest plane accident in South Korea did not say, the U.S. B2 stealth bombers and F16 fighter plane accident in Taiwan, there are extensive discussions on the Internet, including news, the U.S. incidents group of experts, the cost-up to 1.2 billion U.S. dollars The B2 bomber, is most likely be a "magic weapons" shot down, on-line news that the Chinese Navy is the most advanced "cut" submarines, testing a high-energy acoustic radiation offensive weapons, and that the U.S. military's B2 bomber, and the Taiwan's F16 fighters, this is the "magic weapon" shot down, of course, there are many people this is the right network sceptics.

September 9 last year, Reuters quoted a CIA official said the United States, a U.S. F22 fighter planes in the September 1 after taking off from Guam lost contact after the Pacific Fleet from Okinawa to Guam and dispatched aircraft and warships to Search, but found nothing. Reuters that the official said, the last in the Central Intelligence Agency to intercept communications in the Chinese military, found that F22 plane has been shot down a Chinese fighter plane to intercept, and the crash of fish in the sea off the islands of the mountain.

Before this, the Internet also has widely circulated a U.S. F22 fighters, in August 16 last year from Fujian Quangang entered China's airspace, the PLA ground radar was intercepted. 2 Jianshi fighters quickly took off to intercept, repeatedly issued warnings to the F22, called for the immediate withdrawal of China's airspace. But ignored the F22, F22 to avoid the possibility of urban ground attack, the headquarters ordered to open fire, two Jianshi and F22 warplanes launched air combat, the F22 was shot down and crashed in the southern suburbs of Fuzhou White Lake Pavilion near the crew members parachuted alive, after PLA Oshiage military vehicle was taken away.

U.S. F22 is the most advanced fifth-generation fighter planes, each cost 120 million U.S. dollars, the U.S. military as killers reach the air, only in the use of the U.S. Air Force, is completely banned the export of weapons. U.S. "Faith" on February 3 issued by a U.S. defense experts Kai Mike wrote an article implied that China's threat to the United States warplanes in the air supremacy over the West Pacific region, and condemns the U.S. government was concealing three F22 shot down the The facts, so that taxpayers do not know there are over 300 million U.S. dollars has been buried in Zhongnanhai. If Kai Mike master the information is true, that is, a total of three F22 was shot down, in addition to the above mentioned two have information, there is not a complete report.

U.S. military and its allies of the Air Force, recently in the western Pacific is a frequent occurrence of accidents, losses, military observers and opinion, the official news of the blockade, although the Internet spread the news can not be confirmed, but has also become parties The reference.

[spejic]

I really, really doubt this is true.

[CrewDust]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/b-1b-loss.htm

A B1 did go down on Feb. 4th.

[spejic]

A B1 did go down on Feb. 4th.I read some interesting stuff about the B-1 recently. Seems that the aircraft that has been the red-headed stepchild for decades has finally found its time in the limelight. The eight bazzilion problems that have kept it from doing conventional bombing in previous conflicts have been mostly worked out, and now it is the main bomber workhorse for the US military taking over from the B-52. The B-1 is loved by the generals for its speed and flexibility and by the pilots for its almost fighter-like handling. The only problems are for the ground crews, who have forgotten what sleep is like. The B-1 was designed in the "reliability? what's that?" era and built in the "give it performance, we have infinite money for spare parts" era, and is a pretty finicky think to keep in the air.

[teamdragon]

Some speculations in Asia Times about this.

I cannot find the English version, so run a Google translator over it. Can be very crude for translation. Chinese military denied this.


"Mysterious sonic weapons," US-made military aircraft shot down several times » Print E-mail
Luo Shao-author
2008/04/09, Wednesday

Nearly six months since the Western Pacific has happened many times over the US-made military aircraft shot down or missing, the U.S. military lost a B2 stealth bomber and three more to the most advanced F22 fighters, Taiwan lost an F16 fighter planes, the latest news is that South Korea also have an air force reconnaissance plane crashed, the accident is a series of individual events, or otherwise the situation »

On these series of US-made military aircraft missing or the cause of the crash, on the Internet have lively discussions and reports, but, like other military sources, are not confirmed. These two statements, one of which is that these planes fly in the airspace of China, China's "Jianshi" fighters shot down the other way even more mysterious, it was quoted that U.S. military experts, some of the missing aircraft was A "mysterious high-energy acoustic weapons" shot down.

April 7, a US-South Korea air force reconnaissance plane crashed into a mountain in the east, the two pilots on board were rescued after an emergency parachute, the South Korean authorities are investigating the cause of the accident, no further information. The evening of March 4, the Taiwan Air Force F16 fighter lost contact off the eastern Hualien, Taiwan's military aircraft at that time will be classified as "missing", after repeated search, still can not be found warplanes and aircraft Secretary, the Taiwan military Has set up a committee to investigate reasons.

February 16, a U.S. B2 stealth bombers, Guam in the Pacific Air Force Base crashed shortly after take-off, two pilots on board the timely pop-up cockpit security, which is B2 stealth bombers service, the first crash occurred, the United States The military has set up a committee to investigate reasons.

Leaving aside the latest plane accident in South Korea did not say, the U.S. B2 stealth bombers and F16 fighter plane accident in Taiwan, there are extensive discussions on the Internet, including news, the U.S. incidents group of experts, the cost-up to 1.2 billion U.S. dollars The B2 bomber, is most likely be a "magic weapons" shot down, on-line news that the Chinese Navy is the most advanced "cut" submarines, testing a high-energy acoustic radiation offensive weapons, and that the U.S. military's B2 bomber, and the Taiwan's F16 fighters, this is the "magic weapon" shot down, of course, there are many people this is the right network sceptics.

September 9 last year, Reuters quoted a CIA official said the United States, a U.S. F22 fighter planes in the September 1 after taking off from Guam lost contact after the Pacific Fleet from Okinawa to Guam and dispatched aircraft and warships to Search, but found nothing. Reuters that the official said, the last in the Central Intelligence Agency to intercept communications in the Chinese military, found that F22 plane has been shot down a Chinese fighter plane to intercept, and the crash of fish in the sea off the islands of the mountain.

Before this, the Internet also has widely circulated a U.S. F22 fighters, in August 16 last year from Fujian Quangang entered China's airspace, the PLA ground radar was intercepted. 2 Jianshi fighters quickly took off to intercept, repeatedly issued warnings to the F22, called for the immediate withdrawal of China's airspace. But ignored the F22, F22 to avoid the possibility of urban ground attack, the headquarters ordered to open fire, two Jianshi and F22 warplanes launched air combat, the F22 was shot down and crashed in the southern suburbs of Fuzhou White Lake Pavilion near the crew members parachuted alive, after PLA Oshiage military vehicle was taken away.

U.S. F22 is the most advanced fifth-generation fighter planes, each cost 120 million U.S. dollars, the U.S. military as killers reach the air, only in the use of the U.S. Air Force, is completely banned the export of weapons. U.S. "Faith" on February 3 issued by a U.S. defense experts Kai Mike wrote an article implied that China's threat to the United States warplanes in the air supremacy over the West Pacific region, and condemns the U.S. government was concealing three F22 shot down the The facts, so that taxpayers do not know there are over 300 million U.S. dollars has been buried in Zhongnanhai. If Kai Mike master the information is true, that is, a total of three F22 was shot down, in addition to the above mentioned two have information, there is not a complete report.

U.S. military and its allies of the Air Force, recently in the western Pacific is a frequent occurrence of accidents, losses, military observers and opinion, the official news of the blockade, although the Internet spread the news can not be confirmed, but has also become parties The reference.


It doesn't sound very credible to me.

Would be something though if it were true. The Jianshi would get some serious orders. :D

[Shaster]

It doesn't sound very credible to me.

Would be something though if it were true. The Jianshi would get some serious orders. :D

Here is the story:

Aug 16, near Fuzhou city, capital of Fujian province. One F-22 came in but was picked up by a combination of Radar system (China has pretty good anti-Stealth Radar). Then 2 J-10s launched to intercept and gave warning. Somehow F-22 didn't left but instead of moving toward city of Fuzhou. The pilot was ejected so it maybe experience some mechnic problem and plane was losing control. So J-10 shot it down to avoid it flies into city center for disaster.

Eye witnesses said that plane looks like F-22, but the area was being secured by military and nobody can get close. No news report in China. According to people, F-22 broke into China airspace twice before and both being picked up by radar.

[spejic]

Here's the actual video of the crash:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f6d_1212714828