Who should be captain?

[Fiero20]

After reading the Rusty thread, i have come to the conclusion that not many people like Franchino as our captain.

Keep in mind Joey helped bring this team to the MLS Cup.

edit - it seems like the poll isnt working right now and i cant delete my post to start over, so heres the choices -

Joey Franchino
Rusty Pierce
Carlos Llamosa
Adin Brown
Steve Ralston
Other

[ProfZodiac]

Originally posted by Fiero20
After reading the Rusty thread, i have come to the conclusion that not many people like Franchino as our captain.

Keep in mind Joey helped bring this team to the MLS Cup.

edit - it seems like the poll isnt working right now and i cant delete my post to start over, so heres the choices -

Joey Franchino
Rusty Pierce
Carlos Llamosa
Adin Brown
Steve Ralston
Other

If it's going to change, Brown. Everybody performs better when he's at his best. But I could tolerate Rusty as captain. Been here the longest, has seniority.

[RevsGuy06]

I'd support Rusty as captain. Very vocal, has so much intensity, and gives it his all for the full 90. Giving him the armband could also help him keep his cool towards the refs and will lower his caution accumulation, much like Franchino. Rusty could really wake the guys up, and will get into his teammates' faces if they need it.

Or Adin, but whatever works.

[soccertim]

I'd go with Llamosa. In the DC game, he was the most involved in all of the discussions about Dema starting trouble with Cancela, and with the Heaps/Convey incident. We don't seem to get "equal time" with the ref from Joey, and it's probably not good if these guys hear only Etch's voice for an entire game. Having said that, though, I think that it would cause more trouble taking the captaincy away from Joey than any possible benefit.

[John Lewis]

There isn't a single person in Foxboro who would make Rusty Pierce captain. Not one player or coach would do it. Ever.

[Rickster]

Originally posted by John Lewis
There isn't a single person in Foxboro who would make Rusty Pierce captain. Not one player or coach would do it. Ever.

And that is because.......?

[rkupp]

Originally posted by Rickster
And that is because.......?
He's a hothead?

[Ross]

Originally posted by rkupp
He's a hothead?
He's a psycho?

[Beast_Ed]

Llamosa should be captain. And yes Rusty is a complete freak .. I could see him OJ'ing someone in the near future.

Beast_Ed

[Chip]

Originally posted by Beast_Ed
Llamosa should be captain.

Why? A few thoughts here:

1. What has Franchino done or not done to lose the armband?

2. Why Llamosa? I'll agree that he has some stuff to offer, but he also has a ton less minutes than Franchino (1690 vs 1305). Why not stick with someone who'll be there more.

3. What do you expect from a captain? Is it just a position of honor (coin toss, etc), or does it have real significance? If you think it's a position of significance, how do you (as a fan) measure whether the captain is performing as required or not?

Curious,

[John Lewis]

Originally posted by Rickster
And that is because.......?

He simply doesn't get along well with others or inspire respect in his teammates. Rusty is a good player, but he needs to do some maturing. He needs to learn not to put Rusty first all the time.

He is not captain material.

[The Magpie]

"He needs to learn not to put Rusty first all the time..."

Maybe this is the case, but the team's a sure sight better when he's playing.

The Magpie

[RevKraft]

Originally posted by The Magpie
"He needs to learn not to put Rusty first all the time..."

Maybe this is the case, but the team's a sure sight better when he's playing.

The Magpie

When he's playing! You can't captain a team from the training room.

Why did he come out of the DC match? No one has answered this question. Was he hurt? Did he ask to come out? Subbed?

If he was just subbed he sure didn't seem to care. (Unlike Worlde who was visable upset)

Has anyone been to training this week? If so, was Rusty training?

[rkupp]

Originally posted by RevKraft
Why did he come out of the DC match? No one has answered this question. Was he hurt? Did he ask to come out? Subbed?

If he was just subbed he sure didn't seem to care. (Unlike Worlde who was visable upset)
My impression from watching on TV was that he had signalled to the bench that he was "gassed" (no surprise there as he hadn't played a full game in quite a while).

[RevKraft]

Originally posted by rkupp
My impression from watching on TV was that he had signalled to the bench that he was "gassed" (no surprise there as he hadn't played a full game in quite a while).

That kind of says it all. They were all gassed as it was 90 degrees. It's 0-0 with 15 minutes to play and you've had enough.

[ProfZodiac]

Originally posted by RevKraft
That kind of says it all. They were all gassed as it was 90 degrees. It's 0-0 with 15 minutes to play and you've had enough.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. ;)

If it's the overall effect on the team that we're basing it on, I stand by my original decision of Brown. Obviously, there's more confidence when he's on the field. He's kind of a fail-safe.

I'm starting to disagree with Franchino because I feel he's slipping back into his old ways. Everybody's calling him a hack, and I can see why. Obviously, first choice, Franchino stays. But if it's gotta change, it's all about the Sasquatch.

[soccertim]

Originally posted by RevKraft

Why did he come out of the DC match? No one has answered this question. Was he hurt? Did he ask to come out? Subbed?

If he was just subbed he sure didn't seem to care. (Unlike Worlde who was visable upset)


I don't think that it's such a huge surprise that someone who hasn't played in about a month would come out of the game after 70 minutes or so, especiaaly since they were playing a man down for a while. And, if he'd made a big deal about coming out, you'd just be posting about how immature he is.

[soccertim]

Originally posted by Chip

3. What do you expect from a captain? Is it just a position of honor (coin toss, etc), or does it have real significance? If you think it's a position of significance, how do you (as a fan) measure whether the captain is performing as required or not?


The only benefit that I can really see from a captain is that he should be kind of like the team's advocate with the officials. That's why I went with Llamosa, because he's the most likely to fill that role. For instance, if you have an incident like Convey kicking Heaps, you can count on players like Rusty and Joey to intervene on behalf of theire teammate, but Carlos is the most likely to complain to the ref and not the other team's players.

[RevKraft]

Originally posted by soccertim
I don't think that it's such a huge surprise that someone who hasn't played in about a month would come out of the game after 70 minutes or so, especiaaly since they were playing a man down for a while. And, if he'd made a big deal about coming out, you'd just be posting about how immature he is.

No one will debate how immature Rusty is, it's well documented.

What I was pointing out was that it was "gut-check" time and he took himself out of a match. That is not captain material! That's bailing out on your team, when you're a man down with no solid central defenders to fill your void.

Joey gets his face smashed open, gets stitched at the half, and finished the match. Rusty would have been at Mass General with plastic surgeon and his teddy bear!

Do you sleep with a picture of Rusty under your pillow?

[soccertim]

Originally posted by RevKraft
No one will debate how immature Rusty is, it's well documented.



Do you sleep with a picture of Rusty under your pillow?

I wouldn't argue with you about immaturity. It seems to be your one area of expertise.