View Full Version : In defense of supply side economics and the Guillotine
Sam Hamwich
15 Feb 2008, 12:22 PM
---- ok, go ahead and delete this now ----------
SamsArmySam
15 Feb 2008, 02:24 PM
Damn. I was actually interested in how you were going to weave together supply side economics, the guillotine, and the US Men's team.
Rep to the first poster who can do it with a modicum of thoughtfulness...
MarvelousNTx
15 Feb 2008, 02:41 PM
Throughout the 80's as the trickle down effect was taking place (yeah right!) soccer morphed into a rich white boy club game. Effectively eliminating larges masses of the population from getting the exposure or proper coaching. Our best athletes were basically forced into football, basketball and baseball. We can beat no one but Mexico which we do in everything anyway. The talent pool of the U.S is entirely too large and entirely too talented to field the national team that we field. That is the reason that in the World Cup, Copa America and every time we play a friendly in Europe
WE GET LATCHED IN, AND THE BLADE DROPS DOWN ON OUR NECKS!
appoo
15 Feb 2008, 02:45 PM
Damn. I was actually interested in how you were going to weave together supply side economics, the guillotine, and the US Men's team.
Rep to the first poster who can do it with a modicum of thoughtfulness...
Sunil Gulati kidknapped Tom Brady and theatened to Guilltine him if more kids didn't start to play soccer.
Mothers everywhere immediatly took their kids out of Highschool Basketball and Football programs, and enlisted them into soccer programs, increasing the US talent pool 10-fold overnight.
Either that or he threatened Landon Donovan with the guillotine unless he scored 10 goals in the next world cup - which would be an incentive for him to increase his supply of good soccer.
Mr Martin
15 Feb 2008, 03:34 PM
Damn. I was actually interested in how you were going to weave together supply side economics, the guillotine, and the US Men's team.
Rep to the first poster who can do it with a modicum of thoughtfulness...
Duh, suppy side economics argues that incentives to expand the supply of goods will result in more growth and generate its own demand for goods. It was a theoretical response to the inflationary 1970's economic mess.
The MLS created an inexpensive league to supply more American soccer players (supply) and put fans in the seats (demand), and ultimately improve the US National Team, too. Avoiding the costly price spiral of the 1970's NASL has kept the MLS viable and given American professional soccer players a place to play, and accordingly also American coaches a place to earn a living and learn how to coach professionally.
Thus we get to Bob Bradley and the new generation of American players and coaches, thanks to the supply side economics of the MLS.
Of course, if this theory were to fail, such as by a disasterous elimination from World Cup Qualifying, then clearly the guillotine is poised to fall on Bradley's head and on the MLS.
Duh. :p
Sam Hamwich
15 Feb 2008, 05:28 PM
this certainly went in a strange direction...
Moore is the right-wing supply side of the USMNT. He did allow two goals to trickle in to those less fortunate.
Corrales, the Robespierre of left-wing defensive tactics, bludgeoned everyone in sight, leading to his own very quick and thorough detachment from the US team.
sidefootsitter
16 Feb 2008, 12:49 AM
The Supply-siders (sort of) state that tax cuts produce own revenues by growing the economy to pay for the marginal losses due to the lower rates.
MLS's version of the "supply side" is David Beckham - a player who brings in own revenues.
I wish USSF did the same with a top coach, who'd probably bring in his own salary by an improved performance and the resulted attendance.
Adam Zebrowski
16 Feb 2008, 01:24 PM
so american soccer fans are gonna go watch the coach...
it's all about the players...they win and they lose...
the coaching elasticity is so marginal, they don't make the difference....
only thing americans care about is TITLES...
and usa ain't now where near one, and the most brilliant of managers won't get usa near one in 50 years......
usa needs to become spain or holland before even seriously entering the equation, and neither of those nations have hoisted the WC
OWN(yewu)ED
16 Feb 2008, 10:51 PM
ummm.....bob bradley, neoptism, gooch sucks
Hyuuga Neji
16 Feb 2008, 11:40 PM
Offtopic (like this thread), but why isn't there an Offtopic Board for USMNT? Most club teams here have one.
sidefootsitter
17 Feb 2008, 12:09 PM
... the coaching elasticity is so marginal, they don't make the difference.... To me, this is the biggest fallacy ever.
Ask the German fans how they liked Vogts and Ribbeck compared to Klinsmann and Schön.
Ask the Italian fans how they liked Lippi and Bearzot compared to Maldini and Trapattoni.
Ask the Ukrainian fans how they liked Blokhin and Lobanovsky compared to Buryak and Sabo.
Ask the French fans how they liked Domenech and Jacquet compared to Santini and Platini.
Ah, I could go on and on.
Paying money for a good coach is the best investment a nation (or a club) can make.
olephill2
17 Feb 2008, 04:54 PM
Duh, suppy side economics argues that incentives to expand the supply of goods will result in more growth and generate its own demand for goods. It was a theoretical response to the inflationary 1970's economic mess.
The MLS created an inexpensive league to supply more American soccer players (supply) and put fans in the seats (demand), and ultimately improve the US National Team, too. Avoiding the costly price spiral of the 1970's NASL has kept the MLS viable and given American professional soccer players a place to play, and accordingly also American coaches a place to earn a living and learn how to coach professionally.
Thus we get to Bob Bradley and the new generation of American players and coaches, thanks to the supply side economics of the MLS.
Of course, if this theory were to fail, such as by a disasterous elimination from World Cup Qualifying, then clearly the guillotine is poised to fall on Bradley's head and on the MLS.
Duh. :p
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Mr Martin again."
giffenbone
18 Feb 2008, 10:59 AM
um...first page?
SamsArmySam
18 Feb 2008, 01:50 PM
Duh, suppy side economics argues that incentives to expand the supply of goods will result in more growth and generate its own demand for goods. It was a theoretical response to the inflationary 1970's economic mess.
The MLS created an inexpensive league to supply more American soccer players (supply) and put fans in the seats (demand), and ultimately improve the US National Team, too. Avoiding the costly price spiral of the 1970's NASL has kept the MLS viable and given American professional soccer players a place to play, and accordingly also American coaches a place to earn a living and learn how to coach professionally.
Thus we get to Bob Bradley and the new generation of American players and coaches, thanks to the supply side economics of the MLS.
Of course, if this theory were to fail, such as by a disasterous elimination from World Cup Qualifying, then clearly the guillotine is poised to fall on Bradley's head and on the MLS.
Duh. :p
Looks like someone already covered me with rep to Mr Martin ("you must spread around..."). Much obliged.
this certainly went in a strange direction...
Moore is the right-wing supply side of the USMNT. He did allow two goals to trickle in to those less fortunate.
Corrales, the Robespierre of left-wing defensive tactics, bludgeoned everyone in sight, leading to his own very quick and thorough detachment from the US team.
But leave it to SH for weaving it all with humor. So does that mean Moor's new nickname in camp will be "supply side" ? Hey, he did supply our own second goal as well.