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Bronaldo
06 Feb 2008, 06:54 PM
Top 5
C.Ronaldo
Kaka
Casillas
Ibrahimovic
Iniesta
milivella
06 Feb 2008, 07:03 PM
c.ronaldo is the only one i think should be in your list. how bout torres he doing better then garrard?

I'm not sure: Torres is a forward, so his must is to score goals, or at least to make up assists, but even in these stats Gerrard isn't doing worse than him:
- Premier League: T 12g, 2a - G 8g, 7a
- FA Cup: T 0g - G 3g
- League Cup: T 3g - G 1g
- Champions League: T 3g, 0a - G 4g, 2a
- Total: T 18g, 2a - G 16g, 9a
Hendrixforpope
06 Feb 2008, 08:07 PM
Top 5
C.Ronaldo
Kaka
Casillas
Ibrahimovic
Iniesta

Iniesta over Messi? Iniesta in the Top 5 in the world? I really like Iniesta but he's not nearly THAT good (maybe not yet at least :D).
Bronaldo
06 Feb 2008, 09:30 PM
Iniesta over Messi? Iniesta in the Top 5 in the world? I really like Iniesta but he's not nearly THAT good (maybe not yet at least :D).

I think messi is overrated.

IMO, iniesta makes Barcelon click. Most of their works comes through him and if is simply overlooked because he does not provide the end product like a messi or a ronaldinho.
jpick
06 Feb 2008, 10:16 PM
the best player on his team has been Pato, until he got injured

no he wasn't :confused:
Hendrixforpope
06 Feb 2008, 10:24 PM
I think messi is overrated.

IMO, iniesta makes Barcelon click. Most of their works comes through him and if is simply overlooked because he does not provide the end product like a messi or a ronaldinho.

:eek:! BLASPHEMY!:eek:
phil80
06 Feb 2008, 11:53 PM
I think messi is overrated.

IMO, iniesta makes Barcelon click. Most of their works comes through him and if is simply overlooked because he does not provide the end product like a messi or a ronaldinho.
I dont agree Messi is overrated, but you hit it on the nail that Iniesta makes Barcelona click. I have been saying he (Iniesta) is underrated for years now.
Hendrixforpope
07 Feb 2008, 12:17 AM
I dont agree Messi is overrated, but you hit it on the nail that Iniesta makes Barcelona click. I have been saying he (Iniesta) is underrated for years now.

Sadly a lot of players like Iniesta are underrated and ignored in favor of the big names. That's just life.
Mighty_Mouse
07 Feb 2008, 03:01 AM
I'll take Messi over Ronaldo any day. So would Barcelona.

Which is exactly why Barcelona will finish behind RM again this year. While very talented, Messi seems to be injury prone and lacks the completeness of a forward like Ronaldo.
Hendrixforpope
07 Feb 2008, 07:09 AM
Which is exactly why Barcelona will finish behind RM again this year. While very talented, Messi seems to be injury prone and lacks the completeness of a forward like Ronaldo.

Different teams are built around different players. Just because Ronaldo is fantastic for ManU doesn't mean he would be as effective for Barcelona. It would end up being another Galactico situation. You can't just throw a bunch of big names together on a field and hope it works.
erick
07 Feb 2008, 09:25 AM
Different teams are built around different players. Just because Ronaldo is fantastic for ManU doesn't mean he would be as effective for Barcelona. It would end up being another Galactico situation. You can't just throw a bunch of big names together on a field and hope it works.

idk if he would work or not but it will be nice to see him gio and messi together.
Mighty_Mouse
07 Feb 2008, 05:37 PM
Different teams are built around different players. Just because Ronaldo is fantastic for ManU doesn't mean he would be as effective for Barcelona. It would end up being another Galactico situation. You can't just throw a bunch of big names together on a field and hope it works.

No need to state the obvious. My comment was directed at the fact that you would rather have a talented/key player, who has proven himself to be injury prone and therefore misses large parts of the season, over a talented/key player who has shown tremendous consistency in saying fit and injury free.

I was therefore implying that perhaps you favor emotion over intelligence when defending one of your supported team's players.

Hope this clears things up for you.
Hendrixforpope
07 Feb 2008, 05:44 PM
No need to state the obvious. My comment was directed at the fact that you would rather have a talented/key player, who has proven himself to be injury prone and therefore misses large parts of the season, over a talented/key player who has shown tremendous consistency in saying fit and injury free.

I was therefore implying that perhaps you favor emotion over intelligence when defending one of your supported team's players.

Hope this clears things up for you.

Even with what you have said, Barca wouldn't "...sell Messi in a heart beat if they though they could get Ronaldo." as tjbirdsfan said.
erick
08 Feb 2008, 09:26 AM
messi for c. ronaldo!!!!!!!! hella yeah, c.ronaldo is far better then messi because he has a great strike and not just speed like the overrated messi.look how many goals c.ronaldo has score and what position he plays.
Massimo_Oddo
08 Feb 2008, 09:28 AM
messi for c. ronaldo!!!!!!!! hella yeah, c.ronaldo is far better then messi because he has a great strike and not just speed like the overrated messi.look how many goals c.ronaldo has score and what position he plays.

and look how many assists he has and what position he plays...
erick
08 Feb 2008, 09:30 AM
and look how many assists he has and what position he plays...

look at the goals c. ronaldo scores, they have been the best of this year and messi needs assist from other players and ronaldo doesnt
Massimo_Oddo
08 Feb 2008, 10:00 AM
look at the goals c. ronaldo scores, they have been the best of this year and messi needs assist from other players and ronaldo doesnt

Thats complete rubbish. Ronaldo needs assists just like any other player. You think he just dribbles past everyone and scores? :rolleyes:

Was Totti the best player in the world last season then? he got the most goals...
Hendrixforpope
08 Feb 2008, 10:55 AM
look at the goals c. ronaldo scores, they have been the best of this year and messi needs assist from other players and ronaldo doesnt

Assists? No, Messi does it all by himself :D. Do you ever even watch Barca play?
erick
08 Feb 2008, 11:31 AM
Assists? No, Messi does it all by himself :D. Do you ever even watch Barca play?

what i mean is that if you take out rona iniesta deco then messi is nothing. send messi to osasuna see if he scores many goals. c. ronaldo is like kerlon, they can play anywhere and still be the best in the field.
ronaldinhobr10
08 Feb 2008, 11:38 AM
:confused:what i mean is that if you take out rona iniesta deco robinho then messi is nothing. send messi to osasuna see if he scores many goals. c. ronaldo is like kerlon, they can play anywhere and still be the best in the field.

:confused: ROBINHO?? BARCA??
I must have missed that transfer?

and for the second bold: :D