Concacaf Champions League

[MoRado]

check out the article, it says how many clubs per country are invited

The CONCACAF Champions League will feature four teams from Mexico and USA; three Caribbean sides; two clubs each from Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Panama; and one representative coming from Canada, Belize, and Nicaragua.

my 2 cents...
Costa Rica should have gotten 3 spots, not just 2, boolsheet costa ricas 3rd best club is better than Guate 2nd, ES 1st and 2nd, Panama 1st and 2nd and any team from nicaragua, belize or canada

[canuckred]

I am in agreement that Costa Rica got a rough deal in the seedings. They have won 2 of the last 5 trophys while the US hasn't won it since 2000 the only explanation for the low amount of spots has to be unfortunately money. I just hope that they will have something like the UEFA champions league where they will rate the countries participating and adjust the seeds over time by how they preform. I have to defend naming countries like Canada, Belize, and Nicaragua because it has to be a truly north and central american competition where all countries should be able to participate. Odds are they won't even make the group phase but smaller clubs having success in the cup will only serve for more compelling stories and matches.

[Nazzer]

I agree with the sentiment that the there should be as much as possible one representative from each country. Even though Canada doesn't have our own league (yeah we are shamed for having our top teams and even all of our top developmental teams in USA leagues) we should still deserve one spot. Hopefully there will be a ranking system established so that over time each association will earn their number of spots.

I was wondering if it would be possible now that we know the makeup of the tourney, if everyone could help with how each country will determine ther representatives.



Automatic Group Stage Qualifiers

Mexico:
Mexico:
USA: MLS Cup Winner
USA: MLS Supporters Shield Winner
Costa Rica:
Honduras:
El Salvador:
Guatamala:

Preliminary Round Qualifiers:

Mexico:
Mexico:
USA: MLS Cup Runner Up
USA: MLS Supporters Sheild Runner Up
Costa Rica:
Honduras:
El Salvador:
Quatamala:
Panama:
Panama:
Canada: Winner of home and away tournament between Canadas top three clubs.
Caribean: CFU Club Champion
Caribean: CFU Club Champion Runner Up
Caribean:
Nicaragua:
Belize:


Also, perhaps if you care to arrange the prelim qualifiers in how you think they may be ranked. I'm curious what others think.

[olephill2]

Costa Rica and the Caribbean probably should've earned 1 more spot each, at the expense for one of Panama and either a Nicaraguan or Belizian(?) spot.

But that's just how Champions League type tournaments are formatted. Does anyone really think the champion of the Danish Superliga or the Belgian League are as good as or better than the 5th place team in the Premiership each year?

Also, does anyone really think that the 4th place finisher in CONCACAF or the AFC are better than the first team that gets left out of the World Cup from UEFA?

These tournaments are all about including some form of geographic parity.

[Kibby]

It should be fun... I can't wait, finally to have canadian teams involved in something... I really look forward to it.

Re: Costa Rica.... definately deserves 3 spots, don't know where the extra would come from but it deserved to be there. It could only come from a place with more then 1, cause u don't wanna eliminate a country from the tourny though.

What about half spots?

[sidspaceman]

Simple take away one of MLS spots.

[j.fisher]

Ignoring the seeding issues, which I believe will be worked out after the first run of the tournament. I like it and think it'll open more general soccer fans to clubs NOT in Europe that they might not see other wise.

CONCACAF Champions League (http://theshedend.org/?p=39)

[Trin]

So I was wondering if all the teams qualifying through the CFU cup came from one country if that would be a problem. Technically its not too far fetched for this scenario to occurr especially since the allocation of spots to the CFU cup is even more arbitrary than the CCL itself.

[Onionsack]

Simple take away one of MLS spots.

This event doesnt happen without FMF and MLS's involvment. They are vital to this Champions League effort, they got the TV and the money markets to make it a success.

They get the baragining power in this. Thats why they got 2(2) and CR and the rest of central america gets (1)(1).

The less FMF and the less MLS markets that are invloved the less interested investors and sponsors are gonna be. FACT.

[Onionsack]

Can anyone fill this in? I assume the last Mexican champion in Dec will get one spot and the champion in June will get the other?

How are the other leagues deciding the slots?



Mexico: Atlante
Mexico:
USA: Houston Dynamo
USA: DC United
Costa Rica:
Honduras:
El Salvador:
Guatamala:

Preliminary Round Qualifiers:

Mexico:
Mexico:
USA: New England Revolution
USA: Chivas USA
Costa Rica:
Honduras:
El Salvador:
Quatamala:
Panama:
Panama:
Canada: Winner of home and away tournament between Canadas top three clubs.
Caribean: CFU Club Champion
Caribean: CFU Club Champion Runner Up
Caribean:
Nicaragua:
Belize:

[MoRado]

Saprissa already won the apertura title, its already qualified i guess

[Onionsack]

Saprissa already won the apertura title, its already qualified i guess

Is CR using the apertura 2007 or the Clausura 2008 as their automatic entry? I would assume the other is the qualifer? Any idea on how they are going to reslove that?

[MoRado]

i guess they should play a game between the apertura and clausura champion, but i am pretty sure saprissa is gonna win the clausura as well :cool:

[chapulincolorado]

Simple take away one of MLS spots.

Kids just say the darnest things.

[gethomas3]

Kids just say the darnest things.

Why not? Why would 1 spot hurt MLS? If anything by merit alone, you really only deserve 1.

Economically, it will be a good iead if MLS and Costa Rica gets 2 in the groups and 1 preliminary each.

When it comes down to it, we simply got robbed. Nothing more, nothing less.

[chapulincolorado]

Why not? Why would 1 spot hurt MLS? If anything by merit alone, you really only deserve 1.

Economically, it will be a good iead if MLS and Costa Rica gets 2 in the groups and 1 preliminary each.


Here is your answer: Link. (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13751581&postcount=9)


When it comes down to it, we simply got robbed. Nothing more, nothing less.


When CR starst pulling numbers and money like FMF or US, then, yeah, I agree. Until then, you ain't got robbed. It's bidness.

[gethomas3]

Here is your answer: Link. (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13751581&postcount=9)



When CR starst pulling numbers and money like FMF or US, then, yeah, I agree. Until then, you ain't got robbed. It's bidness.

Oh, I am sorry that we are only a small Central American nation that has a population of 4 million. I guess that is enough reason for the greedy Americans to shit on us...

[chapulincolorado]

Oh, I am sorry that we are only a small Central American nation that has a population of 4 million. I guess that is enough reason for the greedy Americans to shit on us...

CON-CACA made the decision not the US Federal Government or some US entity. This is a sports industry. This is a bidness decision. $$$. CON-CACA is not making a philosophical decision about some ethical merit reg. the equality of nations. It's the bottom line, baby. Hoo-ha!

Welcome to the real world!

Next.

[Crazy_Yank]

Oh, I am sorry that we are only a small Central American nation that has a population of 4 million. I guess that is enough reason for the greedy Americans to shit on us...


What a bunch of stupid crap. Should we be running some sort of soccer welfare program? The US and Mexico are putting up almost all of the money and the largest markets. I'm willing to bet more Ticos turn out to watch their club play in the US than turn out in Costa Rica. You don't like it. Go cry to the UN. This is how business is done. Mexico and the US have the best leagues. Naturally they get the most teams. If anything El Salvador shouldn't have 2 spots. They are one of the weakest pro leagues in the region.

[gethomas3]

What a bunch of stupid crap. Should we be running some sort of soccer welfare program? The US and Mexico are putting up almost all of the money and the largest markets. I'm willing to bet more Ticos turn out to watch their club play in the US than turn out in Costa Rica. You don't like it. Go cry to the UN. This is how business is done. Mexico and the US have the best leagues. Naturally they get the most teams. If anything El Salvador shouldn't have 2 spots. They are one of the weakest pro leagues in the region.

Wannabe Eurosnob, what makes you think your league is even better then ours? What have you won? Where are all of your glittering trophies?

And Ticos watching LA Galaxy and Beckam getting raped by some sorry MLCrap teams? We would rather watch our own league, thank you very much.

Once again, get off your high chair, Wannabe Eurosnob.