CONCACAF Champions League [R]

[LMvCP]

i just received a newsletter on my phone that CONCACAF has officially launched the CONCACAF Champions League...

though it had been rumored... it will now be a reality....

i went to the concacaf website... but the media release is still no up....

what are your thoughts?

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NEW YORK (Monday, 28 January 2008) - CONCACAF (Confederation of North, Central American and Caribbean Association Football) announced today the official launch of the new continental club championship, the CONCACAF Champions League which will commence in August 2008. The CONCACAF Champions League will replace the Champions’ Cup which will cease to exist after the 2008 edition.

The CONCACAF Champions League will see a Confederation record number of 24 teams from all sectors of the CONCACAF region participating. The preliminary round begins in August 2008 with the first CONCACAF Champions League winner to be crowned in late April 2009.

The CONCACAF Champions League will feature four teams from Mexico and USA; three Caribbean sides; two clubs each from Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Panama; and one representative coming from Canada, Belize, and Nicaragua.

Eight clubs (two Mexican, two USA, one each from Costa Rica, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador) will be seeded and progress directly to the first round of the CONCACAF Champions League, while the Caribbean slots have been increased to three teams for this event.

The remaining 16 teams will be paired in eight home-and-away preliminary match-ups taking place from 26-28 August and 2-4 September.

The preliminary round winners will join the other eight seeded teams in the group stage that consists of four groups of four. All the teams in each group will play each other in a round-robin system during six match dates (three home games, three away games) from 16 September – 30 October.

The top two clubs from each group will advance to the knock out phase playing home-and-away elimination. The quarterfinals commence in February 2009; semifinals begin in March; and the Finals will take place in late April.

The CONCACAF Champions League winner will qualify as the CONCACAF’s representative to the 2009 edition of the FIFA Club World Cup.

2008-09 CONCACAF CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
Calendar of Events
2008
End July: All qualification completed, draw for preliminary round
26-28 August: Preliminary Round, First-legs
2-4 September: Preliminary Round, Second-legs
Early September: Group Stage Schedule Announced
16-18 September: Group Stage – Match Day 1
23-25 September: Group Stage – Match Day 2
30 September – 2 October: Group Stage – Match Day 3
7-9 October: Group Stage – Match Day 4
21-23 October: Group Stage – Match Day 5
28-30 October: Group Stage – Match Day 6

2009
24-26 February: Quarterfinals, First-legs
3-5 March: Quarterfinals, Second-legs
17-19 March: Semifinals, First-legs
7-9 April: Semifinals, Second-legs
21-23 April: Final, First-leg
28-30 April: Final, Second-leg
December: FIFA Club World Cup

[LMvCP]

I do not like the fact that MLS has as many seeded teams as the MFL.

anyway you want to slice it.... Mexico should have more participants and more seeded teams in the competition...

I also think that Costa Rica should have had if not the same, at least equal the amount of slots and seeded teams in the league as MLS....

with all due respect to MLS..... the CR league has done alot more than MLS

[LMvCP]

i wonder how the new concacaf league calender will affect which teams go to Copa Libertadores, Sudamericana?

[la fresa]

i just read this too. what a load of shit.

how can costa rica only have two slots, after all they've done, while MLS has four (not having reached the final since... 2000?) and CANADA who doesn't even have a professional league get half the spots Costa Rica has.

I love having a stupid federation.

also, i think the MFL has already stated how it will affect the participation in the Copa Sudamericana. I'll try to find it the exact criteria, but i'm pretty sure from here on out the only teams that will participate in the Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana will be places 5-12 in the MFL. 1-4 will now be reserved for the Concacaf Champions League.

[Panfilo]

The Champions and subcampeones qualify.

Thus Atlante and Pumas are in for sure. Plus whoever comes 1st and 2nd in this torneo.

Atlante is a seeded team.

Pumas will go to the preliminary round.

Hopefully they don't make the two Mexican teams meet in the preliminary round.

[DGREAT]

with a stupid federation like ours im pretty sure they it will happen....i just dont get this crappy sh+_Ot we need to move away from this conmcacrap so now what we are going to be sending puebla to the libertadores?? this is bs

[LMvCP]

The Champions and subcampeones qualify.

Thus Atlante and Pumas are in for sure. Plus whoever comes 1st and 2nd in this torneo.

Atlante is a seeded team.

Pumas will go to the preliminary round.

Hopefully they don't make the two Mexican teams meet in the preliminary round.

I know that the champ and runnerup qualify directly....

but what I am asking is if.... If Atlante (A2007 champ), Pumas (A2007 runner up) and the Clausura 2008 champ and runner up qualify for the 2008/09 Champions League....... WHO plays Sudamericana at the beginning of the Apertura 2008 season and who plays Copa Libertadores at the beginning of the Cla 2009 season?

Remember.... the Champions Cup only lasted half a year..... Now... the Champions league will last an entire year.....which will complicate things a bit more.....

[la fresa]

I know that the champ and runnerup qualify directly....

but what I am asking is if.... If Atlante (A2007 champ), Pumas (A2007 runner up) and the Clausura 2008 champ and runner up qualify for the 2008/09 Champions League....... WHO plays Sudamericana at the beginning of the Apertura 2008 season and who plays Copa Libertadores at the beginning of the Cla 2009 season?

Remember.... the Champions Cup only lasted half a year..... Now... the Champions league will last an entire year.....which will complicate things a bit more.....
the top four aren't allowed to participate in either

even if say, atlante is knocked out in the prems, in august, they will still not be able to play the copa libertadores the following year. that's what i gathered from the press release a while back.

[el-choul]

I know that the champ and runnerup qualify directly....

but what I am asking is if.... If Atlante (A2007 champ), Pumas (A2007 runner up) and the Clausura 2008 champ and runner up qualify for the 2008/09 Champions League....... WHO plays Sudamericana at the beginning of the Apertura 2008 season and who plays Copa Libertadores at the beginning of the Cla 2009 season?

Remember.... the Champions Cup only lasted half a year..... Now... the Champions league will last an entire year.....which will complicate things a bit more.....

Here's the mediotiempo link to what Decio de Maria said in December.
http://www.mediotiempo.com/noticia.php?id_noticia=48979


Se tomará la tabla general del Torneo Clausura, en este caso el 2008, y los dos mejores equipos, quitando a los cuatro conjuntos que hayan entrado a CONCACAF, serán los que tendrán el pase directo a la Copa Sudamericana.

Respecto a la Copa Libertadores, aspirarán a ella los nueve mejores equipos, quitando a los cuatro de Copa de Campeones de CONCACAF, el primero de estos nueve, será el representante México 1 en la Libertadores, y entre los ocho restantes se disputará la Interliga 2009, y los dos mejores serán México 2 y México tres en este torneo sudamericano.


So it could potentially be 5th and 6th place of the Clausura to Sudamericana, with 5th direct to Libertadores as well, and 6-13 to Interliga. My complaint about this at the time was that Santos earned NOTHING internationally with their regular season domination last season, if both Sudamericana and Libertadores will be based on Clausura 2008. At least before it would count partially towards interliga (and Sudamericana?). Granted, they should be good enough to qualify to Interliga through this season's standings, but nothing is certain.

[LMvCP]

SHould I feel wrong for wanting my team to place 6th or 7th :D

[DGREAT]

SHould I feel wrong for wanting my team to place 6th or 7th :D

i was just thinking that too:D i say we need to send a crap team like pumas did for the interliga as a protest for this concacrap that is trying to screw us up:mad:

[Mosco]

Mexico FMF should burn concacaf by sending the losers of the 1st division Mexican league. Hell no are the FMF gonna let go of Copa Libertadores competition thats how Mexico and it's club gets it's world respect by beating quality teams like Boca Juniors and Sao Paulo. Just think if Chivas with draws from Copa Libertadores for this peace of sh_t tournament and we beat weak teams like Galaxy a couple of salvi clubs the world isn't gonna give us repect for beating a bunch of no body clubs! Plus just think of the corrupted central american refs that are waiting to screw over Mexican clubs in that tournament not to mention the central american clubs that want to injure the Mexican clubs stars because alot of central american clubs don't know how to pay the beautiful game like South Americans and Mexican clubs do Id say this concacaf tounament is a waste of the FMFand it's leagues time.

[Mosco]

Mexico should send it's best second division clubs to this tournament I'll bet you one of these clubs would win the tournament

[DGREAT]

i'll put my money on tapatio

[esesam]

2015-The dismantling of concacaf

[Serg33]

Thank God for the concacrap...I was just thinking it would be great for my team to place 6th or 7th. Sometimes I think I should run the Concacrap. Right off the bat there are a ton of things wrong with this tourney, I was REALLY surprised that Costa Rica got snubed big time with only 2 slots. Adding more teams will not give this tournament any more cred or making this conference any more competitive and this tournament is by no means beneficial for ANY Mexican team.

[sidspaceman]

Hopefully this expansion will kill off the Hanna Barbera Cup.

[gethomas3]

Mexico FMF should burn concacaf by sending the losers of the 1st division Mexican league. Hell no are the FMF gonna let go of Copa Libertadores competition thats how Mexico and it's club gets it's world respect by beating quality teams like Boca Juniors and Sao Paulo. Just think if Chivas with draws from Copa Libertadores for this peace of sh_t tournament and we beat weak teams like Galaxy a couple of salvi clubs the world isn't gonna give us repect for beating a bunch of no body clubs! Plus just think of the corrupted central american refs that are waiting to screw over Mexican clubs in that tournament not to mention the central american clubs that want to injure the Mexican clubs stars because alot of central american clubs don't know how to pay the beautiful game like South Americans and Mexican clubs do Id say this concacaf tounament is a waste of the FMFand it's leagues time.

I am not trying to be a troll.

LOL If you send 2nd division teams, the Saprissa and Alajuelense will just the CCL everytime.

I, along with quite a lot of people in our nation are pissed off at this. Let me ask Mexicans this...after all of your titles and international success, how does it feel to have MLS, someone who we keep wiping our asses with, as many spots as you do in the CLL?

That BS about the 6-7th team in MFL getting to the South American competitions is just a scandal waiting to happen. "I lose for this amount of money, etc and you get here while I get there", you get what I am saying.

Overall, you guys oughta try going to the South American competitions the the Club World Cup. For one, you will meet a lot of quality teams in South America compared to just meeting two in the Club World Cup.

[DGREAT]

I am not trying to be a troll.

LOL If you send 2nd division teams, the Saprissa and Alajuelense will just the CCL everytime.

I, along with quite a lot of people in our nation are pissed off at this. Let me ask Mexicans this...after all of your titles and international success, how does it feel to have MLS, someone who we keep wiping our asses with, as many spots as you do in the CLL?

That BS about the 6-7th team in MFL getting to the South American competitions is just a scandal waiting to happen. "I lose for this amount of money, etc and you get here while I get there", you get what I am saying.

Overall, you guys oughta try going to the South American competitions the the Club World Cup. For one, you will meet a lot of quality teams in South America compared to just meeting two in the Club World Cup.

wtf are you talking about??? we already go to all of these tournaments.....are you sure you know what you are posting:confused:

[gethomas3]

wtf are you talking about??? we already go to all of these tournaments.....are you sure you know what you are posting:confused:

From what is being understood, the top 4 teams in the Mexican league will go to the CCL and they are talking about having the teams that finish 5-7 in South American tournaments. Due to scheduling, there is no way any team will be able to play the CCL, any South American tourney, and the Club World Cup at the same time.