Most underated players

[phil80]

barsa is going to improve when iniesta leave the team .
what are you talking about? iniesta was their best midfielder last season, how many barca games have you watched?

[pepinointer]

what are you talking about? iniesta was their best midfielder last season, how many barca games have you watched?

yes he played exellent and is an exellent player but my point of view is that he arrive a lot of to the area but there he get lost. he needs depth, barsa have to decide between xavi and iniesta or play with a new scheme different to 4-3-3

[Dr. Know]

what are you talking about? iniesta was their best midfielder last season, how many barca games have you watched?

Iniesta was not better than Xavi last season.

[phil80]

yes he played exellent and is an exellent player but my point of view is that he arrive a lot of to the area but there he get lost. he needs depth, barsa have to decide between xavi and iniesta or play with a new scheme different to 4-3-3
i do agree with you that they tend to get in each other's way
Iniesta was not better than Xavi last season.
wrong as usual, iniesta was their best midfielder up until the last few months of the season when xavi got hot. There is a reason he was selected over xavi in la liga's team of the season by spanish newspapers. Xavi was better in Euros.

[pepinointer]

[quote=phil80;15647370]i do agree with you that they tend to get in each other's way
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i like the 4-3-3 but if the want to play with xavi and iniesta togheter they need a 4--2-3-1 or a 4-4-2 like with spain

[phil80]

[quote=phil80;15647370]i do agree with you that they tend to get in each other's way
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i like the 4-3-3 but if the want to play with xavi and iniesta togheter they need a 4--2-3-1 or a 4-4-2 like with spain
exactly, they can succeed with both just as spain did but they would have to change the formation and move iniesta to the left side

[Dr. Know]

wrong as usual, iniesta was their best midfielder up until the last few months of the season when xavi got hot. There is a reason he was selected over xavi in la liga's team of the season by spanish newspapers. Xavi was better in Euros.

Xavi picked up the slack big time after Messi's injury. He was keeping them in the race almost singlehandedly and was clearly their best midfielder. Why don't you make a poll in the Barca forum and let's see what they think about it?

[pepinointer]

Xavi picked up the slack big time after Messi's injury. He was keeping them in the race almost singlehandedly and was clearly their best midfielder. Why don't you make a poll in the Barca forum and let's see what they think about it?
i dont know, who played better for me, the play the same, but xavi scored very important goals the last season

[glennaldo_sf]

Freddy Adu....





..... runs and hides....

:p

[pepinointer]

Freddy Adu....





..... runs and hides....

:p

that " boy" surely should be like 40 years old:D.

[erick]

Freddy Adu....





..... runs and hides....

:p

he is so overated...just like every other american

[DigitalFutbol]

that " boy" surely should be like 40 years old:D.

And to go to Monaco at this point in his career is just dumb. Monaco are a team that can never keep any big foreign players very long (See Klinsmann and Morientes) so maybe he knows its a stepping stone but so was playing in Portugal. If he's ever gonna break through he has to go to Spain or England and take his chances.

[erick]

And to go to Monaco at this point in his career is just dumb. Monaco are a team that can never keep any big foreign players very long (See Klinsmann and Morientes) so maybe he knows its a stepping stone but so was playing in Portugal. If he's ever gonna break through he has to go to Spain or England and take his chances.

rafa marquez played in monaco and he ended up in barca :confused:

[Perú FC]

Iniesta was not better than Xavi last season.
The last season?, Iniesta was clearly the best midfielder of Barcelona (too clear to discuss it actually), Xavi had only a regular, not a good year.

Xavi recovered in the Euro with a good performance.

[Dr. Know]

The last season?, Iniesta was clearly the best midfielder of Barcelona (too clear to discuss it actually), Xavi had only a regular, not a good year.

Xavi recovered in the Euro with a good performance.

Only someone completely ignorant would say Xavi had a "regular" year. There was a span in the season where he was the only one scoring for them and keeping them in the race. he picked up the slack like no other player did both scoring and assisting. As I said make a poll in the Barca forum and let's see what they say. In their MOTM thread Xavi finished second behing Messi as best player of the season.

Anyone who was following him clearly knew that he brought his La Liga form to the Euro's. He's been on fire ever since playing the best football of his career.

[Perú FC]

Only someone completely ignorant would say Xavi had a "regular" year. There was a span in the season where he was the only one scoring for them and keeping them in the race. He picked up the slack like no other player did both scoring and assisting. As I said make a poll in the Barca forum and let's see what they say. In their MOTM thread Xavi finished second behind Messi as best player of the season.
You can't guide only about the polls in the forums, it seems me you guides of them blindly without watching the matches regularly.

Xavi hasn't had one of his better years last season, I think in part infected by the irregular level of Barcelona. The only form I think anyone could have a different idea is have been impressed by his performance in the Euro and don't have followed previously during the year.

[Dr. Know]

You can't guide only about the polls in the forums, it seems me you guides of them blindly without watching the matches regularly.

I watched almost every single Barca match last season. The reason I brought that up is because the forum regulars also seemed to share my opinion.

Xavi hasn't had one of his better years last season, I think in part infected by the irregular level of Barcelona. The only form I think anyone could have a different idea is have been impressed by his performance in the Euro and don't have followed previously during the year.

I disagree completely. People who had followed him regularly during the season weren't that surprised by his Euro form since he had basically continued his La Liga form. Honestly I can't see how someone can say he had a bad year when he was basically carrying Barca on his shoulders for parts of the season and he added the goal scoring aspect to his game. Last season was one of his highest scoring if not his highest scoring season in La Liga.

In fact I had mentioned him in my current World XI back in February way before the Euro's because of his great form for Barca:

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13977197&postcount=78

[phil80]

I watched almost every single Barca match last season. The reason I brought that up is because the forum regulars also seemed to share my opinion.



I disagree completely. People who had followed him regularly during the season weren't that surprised by his Euro form since he had basically continued his La Liga form. Honestly I can't see how someone can say he had a bad year when he was basically carrying Barca on his shoulders for parts of the season and he added the goal scoring aspect to his game. Last season was one of his highest scoring if not his highest scoring season in La Liga.

In fact I had mentioned him in my current World XI back in February way before the Euro's because of his great form for Barca:

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13977197&postcount=78
No one is saying Xavi had a bad year, and I would rather take the opinions of Spanish footballing experts over some meaningless poll in Bigsoccer. As I said before, Xavi was Barca's best midfielder during the last few months, before then Iniesta was carrying most of the load in midfield, that is undeniable. In Euros, Xavi was Spain's best midfielder along with Senna. Iniesta had a pretty good run in the last few games but did not play up to his full potential (especially in the group stages). You need to rewatch the first half of Barca's season and quit calling people ignorant it only highlights your immaturity.

[Dr. Know]

No one is saying Xavi had a bad year, and I would rather take the opinions of Spanish footballing experts over some meaningless poll in Bigsoccer. As I said before, Xavi was Barca's best midfielder during the last few months, before then Iniesta was carrying most of the load in midfield, that is undeniable. In Euros, Xavi was Spain's best midfielder along with Senna. Iniesta had a pretty good run in the last few games but did not play up to his full potential (especially in the group stages).

I watched the first half of Barca's season. Iniesta was better than Xavi by a bit. But for the second half Xavi was superior and all those goals he scored including quite a few clutch ones puts him over the top for me. In the end Xavi had more goals and more assists than Iniesta and he carried the burden when the team was at their weakest without Messi. Throughout the season his influence was superior when it mattered most.

You need to rewatch the first half of Barca's season and quit calling people ignorant it only highlights your immaturity.

:rolleyes: It certainly wasn't "too clear to discuss it actually" like PeruFC claims. And I'm sorry, if someone says: "Xavi had only a regular, not a good year" that person is clearly ignorant to what happened.

[Perú FC]

Honestly I can't see how someone can say he had a bad year.

I disagree completely. People who had followed him regularly during the season weren't that surprised by his Euro form since he had basically continued his La Liga form. Honestly I can't see how someone can say he had a bad year when he was basically carrying Barca on his shoulders for parts of the season and he added the goal scoring aspect to his game. Last season was one of his highest scoring if not his highest scoring season in La Liga.
:rolleyes: It certainly wasn't "too clear to discuss it actually" like PeruFC claims. And I'm sorry, if someone says: "Xavi had only a regular, not a good year" that person is clearly ignorant to what happened.
I think you shouldn't exalt, no one is saying Xavi had a bad season, he was irregular, not good not bad, and the main theme is the comparison about Xavi and Iniesta. Obviously in my opinion I think the difference is too clear, Iniesta was maybe the best of Barcelona during the last year (with Messi), meanwhile I think Xavi wasn't near as you describe.

I still believe for that reason you're lying when you say you've followed them regularly, I think you're guiding for some comments and statistics without an own monitoring, but whatever, that's only my opinion and if you believe Xavi was better, I don't consider change that opinion. Isn't necessary calling anyone "ignorant", that's a poor source Dr. Know :).