Why do you play two championships a year in Argetina?

[Mario]

relegation its determined by coefficient and its every 3 years

[loloy_vinotinto]

Originally posted by efernandez9
besides the brutal game of NFl can not take more than 17 games a yr.... players will be on therapy for a long time, no wonder they have 53 on rosters!

yeah, danRod, that is a good was to put it, we love futbol and is the more important (only) game in suramerica

I know that brazil, urus and argies had a basketball season, but is probably not as long as the NBA...

venezuela, has strong preference for Baseball, but never as long as Mjor league Base.....How they do that en venezuela? How many months off for futbol liga, 2tourneys?


argieS: Just promoted 2 teams, ATLETICO RAFAELA AND QUILMES, What do they do in venezuela?

Venezuela takes about one month off between the Apertura and Clausura, and about 2 months between Clausura and Apertura, but we have about 3 week break-periods to allow the national team to train well for Qualifiers...
We play two tournaments (Apertura and Clausura), and in the old format of the libertadores the two winners of the short tournaments would go to the libertadores and then you add up the points from both tournaments and whomever two teams had the highest point tally (and weren't the winners of the APertura o Clausura) would go to the Merconorte (or Sudamericana now).
Relegation is determined by that final year table with the points from both tournaments, the one with the lowest point tally in the year descends directly and the second from the bottom, plays a 2 game play-off with the runners up in the snd Division.
The year champion is the winner of a two game final between the winner of the Apertura vs. the winner of the Clausura

[vipnerd]

Argentina plays two tournaments a year ... Apertura and Clausura.

The reason is for interest. A shorter tournament creates expectation til the end, since there are less games.

The increased interest translates into a healthier financial outcome.

There is a pattern lately which I will interpret at this point. Boca for example, tends to win Apertura tournament, the one ending in December. The reason? Because during the Clausura they are playing the Libertadores Cup.

So it almost means AFA created a 2nd tournament for the other teams in Argentina to win while Boca wins the Libertadores. :D


The last paragraph was a joke ... but it could very well be true.


Lastly, for the relegation. The averages determined for the relegation go, as Mario said, up to three years back. Total points divided by # of games. Teams with 2 years in first division or with one year use the same average calculation.

Once a year are the averages calculated, and teams being relegated are replaced by the ones qualifying from the 2nd Division tournament.



Having said this ... based on the past four years, it is very unprobable that Boca will win the Clausura. they will focus on their 6th Libertadores (4th in 5 years) Or maybe this time they win both fronts. :D

[Mario]

especially with all the speculation regarding Cardozo's transfer (is Bianchi looking for Tevez' replacement???)

[BocaFan]

Go here:

http://www.argentinesoccer.com/indexen.html

and click on the 'relegation' link on the left (near the top) to see the current relegation table (sometimes an example is the best way to understand it). After the Clausara ends (19 games from now) the bottom 2 in this table get relegated directly! 17th and 18th placed teams go into a 2-legged relegation playoff with 2 second-division teams.

It's pretty unfair to newly promoted teams as you can see (Rafaela is dead last). Since they only need 1 not-so-good season to get relegated, while established sides need 3 bad years in-a-row before they face the drop.

[efernandez9]

sounds unfair? But, I think It makes 2nd division race very interesting, with a yearly shot to move up, directly and thru the playoff.....


in other words the last 4 or 3 of argie main liga, never leave 2nd division, unless they make giant strides in one season!