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scoachd1
20 Dec 2007, 03:54 AM
Last year I started a thread trying to get an understanding of what each team was doing with their youth program in the month following the announcement of their youth Academy system (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=451688). It’s been a little over a year now and I figured its time for an update.

Here is my current understanding:

Chivas – The organization mostly seems likes it is working to build up grass roots support and as a bonus maybe develop a few players in the process. They have U16 and U18 teams playing in USSF Leagues. Focus has been on Hispanic players and unlike other LA based Academy teams they are not playing during the HS season. U18 team recruited some kids that can really play and might be willing and able to make the transition to the senior team. I think a couple may have been selected for US residency. U16 has more marginal players.

Club runs 14 different “Academies” in US 2 in LA that are run by the club and 12 others that are "independently owned and operated under license from Chivas USA Futbol Education, LLC,"

Galaxy – Announced with great fanfare in March that they starting Galaxy Rios and announced Tristan Bowen as there first player. Never heard of a second. Announced that they were going to have teams in the USSF league and then were replaced by LAFC. Run the Beckham academy targeted for kids 4-18 willing to pay the going rate.

Chicago – Started out with what looked like just another mediocre club outfitted in Fire gear at players cost. However with their two teams in USSF league, they appear more serious about acquiring talent. They appear to have attempted to recruit all the top area club players with free training, travel and gear. They also appear to have signed many of them.

Colorado – Have teams in USSF League. Played this summer in Super-Y against RSL’s teams and seemed to be a cut above the couple of club teams that played in the league.

Columbus – Have Crew Jrs. entered in USSF league. The program seemed to me nothing more than another glorified club much like Fire Juniors was. However, they seemed to partner with Friedel’s program which seems to be the real deal so maybe they are getting a bit more serious.

DC United – Has teams entered in USSF league and has a number of pretty good looking teams entered in Super Y. Seem to have hired a group of experienced coaches. They seem to be make a reasonable effort acquire and develop talent.

FC Dallas – Seemed to turn a large youth club (inter) into FC Dallas. Seems like just another Tx club outfitted in FC Dallas Gear (most likely at the players cost).

Houston – Houston has a unique system. They work with all the clubs and offer supplemental training. They appear to also play matches in Mexico as well as the US. They also appear to be pretty serious about finding potential players. Last year I thought their model was the way to start out. It seems to work with clubs rather than competing with them. However it is at odds with the USSF model (which I strongly question).

Kansas City – Have a U15,U16, U17 program called KCW Juniors. Appear to play against local club teams – something like a smaller version of DC or Red Bulls, only they are not part of USSF League

New England – Seem to having nothing more than an “Academy” that is targeted at anyone from 4-18 willing to pay the going rate.

Red Bull – Has teams entered in USSF league and a U15 Academy team as well. Seem to have hired a group of experienced coaches. They seem to be make a reasonable effort acquire and develop talent and seem to have players capable and interested in moving to the team.

Real Salt Lake – They also have an interesting model. They seem to partner with OPD in Arizona and Utah and have a U16 and U17 team in the Super-Y league. Talent looked a step above as Colorado Rush (at one time not too long ago one of the strongest clubs in the US) one of the two club teams also in the league at U17. They also seem to have a Chivas like licensed program in Florida that seems more like branding and money than development.

From my view – Galaxy, New England and FC Dallas have nothing. Columbus, Chicago, Colorado, KC Real Salt Lake all seem to be getting a little more serious in their own way although none seem to have player in their program chomping at the bit to turn professional. DC was about a year ahead in organizing but seems to be in the camp as well.

Red Bull, DC, Houston all seem to have players capable and interested in foregoing college and turning pro. Chivas is building up the grass roots with Hispanic targeted programs and is also providing a platform for lower income kids that want to go directly to the pros. Houston seems to be targeting similar players but is working in conjunction with South Tx programs. Red Bull also seem to have players ready to make the jump but does not seem as strongly Hispanic based as the other two.

Only Chivas, Columbus, Chicago, Colorado, Red Bull, and DC have teams in the USSF Academy League. I find it interesting that almost half the teams seem to question its utility at this time

Please make corrections, changes and additions to help fill out the picture of each teams plan, the appropriateness of their plan, and how successfully they appear to be executing their plan.

Buckscounty Mark
20 Dec 2007, 07:03 AM
You mentioned that you question the USSF model. If possible, Can you explain what that model is?

anderson
20 Dec 2007, 07:24 AM
...Houston – Houston has a unique system. They work with all the clubs and offer supplemental training. They appear to also play matches in Mexico as well as the US. They also appear to be pretty serious about finding potential players. Last year I thought their model was the way to start out. It seems to work with clubs rather than competing with them. However it is at odds with the USSF model (which I strongly question)...Thanks for compiling this info.

Just to add a couple of items:

In addition to the academy in Houston, the Dynamo have also opened the Dynamo South Texas Academy (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12861177&postcount=61) (and more info here (http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/houstonchronicle/soccer/~3/162705060/dynamo_tab_sout_1.html/)) in the Rio Grande Valley.

This post (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13456367&postcount=82) contains some brief translations from a local Spanish-language paper about the Dynamo's youth program plans for 2008.

DoctorD
20 Dec 2007, 08:30 AM
Glad to see MLS is making progress. It will take some time to displace the existing clubs and to build their own facilities: not an overnight proposition. Especially consider how many clubs are playing on leased fields that are dedicated to non-profit uses.

Maintaining a strict salary cap and giving teams rights to players they develop is key to further youth development.

Increased professionalism of players down to the age of 15 will be necessary to truly develop skill levels.

seahawkdad
20 Dec 2007, 09:08 AM
You mentioned that you question the USSF model. If possible, Can you explain what that model is?I don't know whether this is what scoachd1 was referring to, but the USSF has formed a country-wide league structure called the U.S. Soccer Developmental Academy. Teams in this structure include those from pro academies such as DC United, RedBulls, and Crew (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20071205&content_id=132000&vkey=pr_dcu&fext=.jsp&team=t103)., as well as non-MLS affiliated clubs.

This from the USSF site (http://ussoccer.com/articles/viewArticle.jsp_557057.html):

With an emphasis on creating a superior everyday training environment, teams in the Development Academy will have a clean slate for a calendar and will be required to train a minimum of three times a week, eliminating the growing trend of clubs playing an excessive quantity of games in lieu of consistent training patterns. To maintain an emphasis on training, Development Academy teams will compete against other teams in the program and will not play in any other leagues, tournaments or State Cup competitions, and players will only be allowed to compete on their designated Academy team (with exceptions for high school soccer and national team duty)...

...The Development Academy has been divided into eight conferences comprised of eight teams based on geographic proximity. Academy teams will play 30 matches across a complete season with the winner of each conference participating in the annual Academy Finals at The Home Depot Center in Carson, Calif. The Academy clubs will be comprised of Under-16 and Under-18 age groups, with a minimum of 20 players on a roster. Younger players in the Academy system will also be allowed to play “up” within their club.

Here, from another page of the USSF site (http://www.ussoccer.com/articles/viewArticle.jsp_1966085.html), is the conference line up of the 64 clubs:
U.S. Soccer Development Academy Clubs (listed by conference)

Northeast Conference

* Albertson SC
* B/W Gottschee
* FC Greater Boston Bolts
* FC Westchester
* Met Oval
* Oakwood SC
* Seacoast United
* South Central Premier

Mid-Atlantic Conference

* Baltimore Bays Soccer Club
* DC United
* FC DELCO
* Match Fit Academy FC
* New York Red Bulls
* PA Classics
* PDA
* Potomac Soccer

Atlantic Conference

* Bridge FA
* CASL
* Greensboro Youth SC
* North Meck SC
* Richmond Kickers SC
* Richmond Strikers
* South Charlotte SA
* VA Rush SC

Southeast Conference

* AFC Lightning Soccer Club
* Atlanta Fire United SA
* Birmingham United SA
* Clearwater Chargers SC
* Concorde Fire SC
* IMG SA
* Kendall Soccer Coalition
* Schulz Academy

Great Lakes Conference

* Carmel United Soccer Club
* CASA
* Columbus Crew
* Empire United SA
* Internationals SC
* Michigan Wolves
* Ohio Elite SA
* Vardar

Mid-America Conference

* Chicago Fire Soccer PDA
* Chicago Magic Soccer Club
* FC Milwaukee
* Metro United Soccer Club
* Scott Gallagher
* Sockers FC Chicago
* Solar SC
* U.S. National Team (U-15/16 & U-17)

SoCal Conference

* Arsenal SC
* Chivas USA
* Irvine Strikers
* L.A. Galaxy
* Nomads SC
* Pateadores SC
* Real So Cal
* San Diego Surf

West Conference

* Colorado Rapids
* Colorado Rush
* Crossfire Premier SC
* De Anza Force SC
* FC Portland SA
* Mustang FC
* Real Colorado
* Washington Premier FC

I see seven MLS academies in the mix.

Matrim55
20 Dec 2007, 09:18 AM
Red Bull – Has teams entered in USSF league and a U15 Academy team as well. Seem to have hired a group of experienced coaches. They seem to be make a reasonable effort acquire and develop talent and seem to have players capable and interested in moving to the team.
The ESC Fanzine (http://www.empiresc.com/fanzine/ESC%20Fanzine%20Issue%205.pdf) has a six-page feature on Red Bull's academy. Lots of detail and information on the three guys (Matt Kassel, Ward Hines and Johnny Exantus) who may be ready to make the leap to the senior team.

seahawkdad
20 Dec 2007, 09:32 AM
..DC United – Has teams entered in USSF league and has a number of pretty good looking teams entered in Super Y. Seem to have hired a group of experienced coaches. They seem to be make a reasonable effort acquire and develop talent.

Six DC United Academy players were invited to play in the Nike Friendlies (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20071205&content_id=132000&vkey=pr_dcu&fext=.jsp&team=t103) with the U.S. National Training Select teams. They are forward Chris Hegngi and defender Ethan White for the Under 17/18 team; defenders Julio Arjona, Samuel Bradley and Shaquille Phillips and midfielder Lester Dewee for the Under 15/16 team.

Only Chivas, Columbus, Chicago, Colorado, Red Bull, and DC have teams in the USSF Academy League. I find it interesting that almost half the teams seem to question its utility at this timeAdd the L.A. Galaxy to that list, according to the USSF site.

I wonder if it was questioning the utility or some other factors that may have entered into it. Could any of them not have had teams ready (such as those who run pay-to-play programs) or those that weren't good enough to be selected?

From the USSF site (http://ussoccer.com/articles/viewArticle.jsp_557057.html):

Academy clubs were chosen by U.S. Soccer’s coaches from more than 150 applications based on number of criteria, including a club’s history of elite youth player development and past success in elite competitions.

Rob Base
20 Dec 2007, 10:36 AM
Six DC United Academy players were invited to play in the Nike Friendlies (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20071205&content_id=132000&vkey=pr_dcu&fext=.jsp&team=t103) with the U.S. National Training Select teams. They are forward Chris Hegngi and defender Ethan White for the Under 17/18 team; defenders Julio Arjona, Samuel Bradley and Shaquille Phillips and midfielder Lester Dewee for the Under 15/16 team...

From the USSF site (http://ussoccer.com/articles/viewArticle.jsp_557057.html):

Nepotism.

mbar
20 Dec 2007, 11:34 AM
Interesting that the Galaxy are in that USSF league, because in all honesty, I don't think we have any type of reserve team at all.

There has been requests from fans for the Galaxy to clarify our youth set up but they have gone on deaf ears.

There are some powerful youth clubs in the region, so it wouldn't surprise me if there was some politics issues here in SoCal.

Still, one year later, what we've seen so far for the Galaxy is disapointing.

DirtyJerzey
20 Dec 2007, 01:30 PM
should be interesting to see if any academy players get pro contracts this upcoming year, with Kassel being the most likely IMO.

boomersooner027
20 Dec 2007, 01:33 PM
From my view – Galaxy, New England and FC Dallas have nothing.

That's not true at all about FC Dallas. The head of our youth teams is a guy named Chris Clarke who was with the team before they turned Inter into FCD. Here's a little youth update

http://worldcupway.blogspot.com/2007/11/fcd-youth-update.html

contacthi
20 Dec 2007, 02:33 PM
TFC was given an extra year before starting up an academy by MLS so they could get their feet on the ground. I don't know a ton about it but there were a couple of times now where if you called up ticketmaster and paid $125 or so, they would graciously let you try out. I also understand that they have training grounds under construction.

http://toronto.fc.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20071121&content_id=130527&vkey=pr_t280&fext=.jsp&team=t280

NF-FC
20 Dec 2007, 02:45 PM
TFC was given an extra year before starting up an academy by MLS so they could get their feet on the ground. I don't know a ton about it but there were a couple of times now where if you called up ticketmaster and paid $125 or so, they would graciously let you try out. I also understand that they have training grounds under construction.

they had an open tryout (cash grab) last year and one token player was selected (Jamal Smith, currently plays for U of T and may one day land a spot in the CSL:rolleyes:) they are holding tryouts again this year and swear that they are actually trying to find talent with them. There was supposed to be an announcement this past wednesday about the youth academy but it has been postponed until next year after the holidays. i suspect they'll keep having these paid tryouts and use them to fill up their academy.

Onionsack
20 Dec 2007, 05:06 PM
The ESC Fanzine (http://www.empiresc.com/fanzine/ESC%20Fanzine%20Issue%205.pdf) has a six-page feature on Red Bull's academy. Lots of detail and information on the three guys (Matt Kassel, Ward Hines and Johnny Exantus) who may be ready to make the leap to the senior team.

Yep, if anyone here really wants to know about the NY youth academy instead of justr snarking off assumptions, then its a must read.

Crazy_Yank
20 Dec 2007, 05:19 PM
Thanks for compiling this info.

Just to add a couple of items:

In addition to the academy in Houston, the Dynamo have also opened the Dynamo South Texas Academy (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12861177&postcount=61) (and more info here (http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/houstonchronicle/soccer/~3/162705060/dynamo_tab_sout_1.html/)) in the Rio Grande Valley.

This post (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13456367&postcount=82) contains some brief translations from a local Spanish-language paper about the Dynamo's youth program plans for 2008.


As a resident of the Valley and a friend of an academy member I think this is awesome. There is a lot of talent here. The high school state champion usually comes from one of the Brownsville schools. Last 2 have been Porter and Lopez. They beat teams from Dallas loaded with high level pay to play club players. University of Texas at Brownsville started it's first varsity program in autmn of this year. Now that the Valley is starting to get it's shit together I think we'll starting seeing players on the national teams coming out of the valley. Friedel's academy has a kid from Edinburgh.

futgod
20 Dec 2007, 05:48 PM
should be interesting to see if any academy players get pro contracts this upcoming year, with Kassel being the most likely IMO.
Chivas USA already signed Jorge Flores after playing in the U-18 and he was called up by the U-20 National team. Flores made his pro debut last season. I know we signed another kid from our youth team but I cant remember his name right now.

Crazy_Yank
20 Dec 2007, 06:15 PM
Flores had a goal and an assist in the first 2 games with the US Under 20's.

Bird1812
20 Dec 2007, 08:17 PM
Update on New England

There is no update. The last info on a youth program plan we had here in Revsland was dated April 3, 2007.

http://www.revolutionsoccer.net/search/index.cfm?ac=searchdetail&pid=24736&pcid=115

Also, our youth development proposal that’s been approved is something that we’ve been working on as well. We don’t know exactly what way we are going to go, but we are talking to a number of different organizations on that front. This is a program that is not going show proof this year or even next year, but years down the line. So, with that in mind, we are taking a real measured approach about how we approach youth development down and in how we approach that program. We are not rushing into anything right now but we are working with different organizations and we’ll have an announcement about that sometime this year as well.

Still 11 days left in the year to make an announcement.

NebraskaAddick
20 Dec 2007, 10:13 PM
As a resident of the Valley and a friend of an academy member I think this is awesome. There is a lot of talent here. The high school state champion usually comes from one of the Brownsville schools. Last 2 have been Porter and Lopez. They beat teams from Dallas loaded with high level pay to play club players. University of Texas at Brownsville started it's first varsity program in autmn of this year. Now that the Valley is starting to get it's shit together I think we'll starting seeing players on the national teams coming out of the valley. Friedel's academy has a kid from Edinburgh.

I love the Valley. The sight and sound of all those birds is seared into my memory. I spent some time down there about seven years ago in Harlingen and it seemed then that all they were interested in was high school football, like the rest of Texas. Or maybe that was just my perception.

scoachd1
20 Dec 2007, 10:21 PM
Interesting that the Galaxy are in that USSF league, because in all honesty, I don't think we have any type of reserve team at all.

There has been requests from fans for the Galaxy to clarify our youth set up but they have gone on deaf ears.

There are some powerful youth clubs in the region, so it wouldn't surprise me if there was some politics issues here in SoCal.

Still, one year later, what we've seen so far for the Galaxy is disapointing.

Forget the USSF site. I'm looking for reality from people that are familiar with what is going on in their area. As I noted in my initial post, the Galaxy was replaced by LAFC. Take a look at the USSF league schedules (http://www.t7sports.com:8080/2005/k122631.htm).

In 2007 LAFC U19 was last in Premier (12 of 12); 5th at U17 (their only real strong olders club); Last in Premier at U16 (12 of 12) and were not in the 12 top 12 at U15 and did not win the second division bracket the were playing.