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Hal
05 Aug 2003, 08:45 PM
A Bridges and Clyde
B Chopra and Fortune
C Bellion and Clyde

A only requires adjusting the Cole provisional valuation to 8.0. Other two work. If Cole comes in at 8.5, I could not support voiding that pick. I'd support an exception to let him make the cap by dropping another player.

kopiteinkc
05 Aug 2003, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Hal
A Bridges and Clyde
B Chopra and Fortune
C Bellion and Clyde

A and C require adjusting the Cole provisional valuation to 8.0. If Cole comes in at 8.5, I could not support voiding that pick. I'd support an exception to let him make the cap by dropping another player.

So B it is.

Ingromius
05 Aug 2003, 08:46 PM
B. I'm conservative when picking on another's behalf, he'll have plenty of time to make trades and adjust if he wants to.

Hal
05 Aug 2003, 08:47 PM
I'm fixing to call Jay and if he's not back from Boston, making the call.

He can always adjust it later.

Ingromius
05 Aug 2003, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Hal

B Chopra and Fortune
[/B]

And I might have picked Fortune for myself with the final pick, lest anyone suspect we weren't objective :)

1800-WorldCup
05 Aug 2003, 08:52 PM
MtKillamanjohno -- W.ConnectionFC
1. Henry, Arsenal 12.0 -- Striker
2. Jenas, Newcastle 7.5 -- Midfield
3. Given, Newcastle 6.5 -- Goalkeeper
4. Southgate, Middlesbrough 6.5 -- Defender
5. Campbell, Arsenal 7.5 -- Defender
6. Carragher, Liverpool 7.0 -- Defender
7. Tugay, Blackburn 6.5 -- Midfield
8. Keane, Man. United 7.5 -- Midfield
9. Campbell, Everton 8.0 -- Striker
10. Svensson, M Southampton 5.5 -- Defender
11. Savage, Birmingham 6.0 -- Midfield
12. Joe Cole, Chelsea 8.5 -- Midfield **
13. Coyne, Leicester 3.0 -- Goalkeeper
14. Chopra, Newcastle 4.0 -- Striker
15. Fortune, Charlton 4.0 -- Defender
Balance = (0.0) -- provisonal, depending on Cole

1800-WorldCup -- 1800-UK.com
1. Postiga, Tottenham 8.0 -- Striker
2. Veron, Chelsea 8.0 -- Midfield
3. Lehmann, Arsenal 7.0 -- Goalkeeper
4. Heskey, Liverpool 8.0 -- Striker
5. Emerton, Blackburn 7.0 -- Midfield
6. Bowyer, Newcastle 8.5 -- Midfield
7. Smith, Leeds 8.0 -- Striker
8. Tarnat, Man. City 6.0 -- Defender
9. Weir, Everton 5.5 -- Defender
10. Toure, Arsenal 5.5 -- Midfield
11. Traore, Liverpool 5.5 -- Defender
12. Hall, Southampton 4.5 -- Defender
13. Keller, Tottenham 5.5 -- Goalkeeper
14. Van Bommel Tottenham 7.0 -- Midfield ** (Very Provisional)
15. O'Brien, Newcastle 6.0 -- Defender
Balance = (0.0) -- depending on Van Bommel

Darr -- Nocturnal United
1. van Nistelrooy, Man. United 11.5 -- Striker
2. Lampard, Chelsea 9.0 -- Midfield
3. Keane, Tottenham 8.5 -- Striker
4. Sinclair, Man. City 8.0 -- Midfield
5. Robinson, Leeds 5.5 -- Goalkeeper
6. Greening, Middlesbrough 7.5 -- Midfielder
7. Euell, Charlton 7.5 -- Striker
8. Hendrie, Aston Villa 7.0 -- Midfield
9. Morris, Leeds 70 5.0 -- Midfield
10. Silvestre, Man. United 8.0 -- Defender
11. Camara, Leeds 4.5 -- Defender
12. Poole, Bolton 3.0 -- Goalkeeper
13. Johnson M, Birmingham 3.0 -- Defender
14. Edworthy, Wolves 3.5 -- Defender
15. Higginbotham, Southampton 3.5 -- Defender
Balance = 5.0

Ingromius -- London Saint-Germain
1. Shearer, Newcastle 10.5 -- Striker
2. Hasselbaink, Chelsea 10.5 -- Striker
3. Dyer, Newcastle 9.0 -- Midfield
4. Barthez, Man. United 7.0 -- Goalkeeper
5. Vassell, Aston Villa 8.0 -- Striker
6. Barry, Aston Villa 6.5 -- Midfield
7. Davies, Tottenham 8.0 -- Midfield
8. Unsworth, Everton 6.0 -- Defender
9. Gilberto, Arsenal 7.0 -- Midfield
10. Distin, Man. City 5.5 -- Defender
11. Faye, Portsmouth 5.5 -- Midfield
12. Hislop, Portsmouth 4.5 -- Goalkeeper
13. Murphy, Middlesbrough 3.0 -- Defender
14. Okoronkwo, Wolves 4.5 -- Defender
15.
Balance = 4.5

DoctorJones24 -- DC Chickenhawks
1. Pires, Arsenal 10.0 -- Midfield
2. Giggs, Man. United 9.5 -- Midfield
3. Solskjaer, Man. United 9.5 -- Striker
4. Radzinski, Everton 8.5 -- Striker
5. Malbranque, Fulham 8.0 -- Midfield
6. Jaaskelainen, Bolton 5.0 -- Goalkeeper
7. Sheringham, Portsmouth 7.5 -- Striker
8. Gravesen, Everton 6.5 -- Midfield
9. Schwarzer, Middlesbrough 6.0 -- Goalkeeper
10. Campo, Bolton 5.0 -- Defender
11. Benali, Southampton 3.0 -- Defender
12. Heath, Leicester 3.0 -- Defender
13. Cunningham, Birmingham 5.0 -- Defender
14. Samuel, Aston Villa 5.0 -- Defender
15.
Balance = 8.5

Clanblue -- Romans Roubles
1. Duff, Chelsea 9.5 -- Midfield
2. Anelka, Man. City 10.0 -- Striker
3. Djorkaeff, Bolton 8.0 -- Striker
4. Juninho, Middlesbrough 9.0 -- Midfield
5. Jensen, Charlton 7.0 -- Midfield
6. Wright, Everton 5.5 -- Goalkeeper
7. Vieira, Arsenal 97 7.5 -- Midfield
8. Viduka, Leeds 9.5 -- Striker
9. Lazaridis, Birmingham 5.5 -- Midfield
10. Le Saux, Southampton 6.5 -- Defender
11. Short, Blackburn 5.0 -- Defender
12. McEveley, Blackburn 3.0 -- Defender
13. Rufus, Charlton 90 5.5 -- Defender
14. Gerrard, Everton 3.5 -- Goalkeeper
15.
Balance = 5.0

BuffloSoldier -- New York United
1. Owen, Liverpool 11.0 -- Striker
2. Cudicini, Chelsea 7.5 -- Goalkeeper
3. Gerrard, Liverpool 8.5 -- Midfield
4. Dunn, Birmingham 8.0 -- Midfield
5. Allback, Aston Villa 7.5 -- Striker
6. Ferdinand, Man. United 7.0 -- Defender
7. Sibierski, Man. City 7.5 -- Midfielder
8. Zamora, Tottenham 5.5 -- Striker
9. Amoruso, Blackburn 6.5 -- Defender
10. Kleberson, Man. United (8.0) -- Midfield **
11. Yobo, Everton 5.5 -- Defender
12. Lescott, Wolves 4.5 -- Defender
13. Vignal, Liverpool 3.5 -- Defender
14. Ambrosio, Chelsea 4.5 -- Goalkeeper
15.
Balance = (5.0) -- provisonal, depending on Kleberson

JG_Revs -- Many Points FC
1. Geremi, Chelsea 9.0 -- Midfield
2. Ljungberg, Arsenal 9.0 -- Midfield
3. Hyypia, Liverpool 8.0 -- Defender
4. Bellamy, Newcastle 9.5 -- Striker
5. Woodgate, Newcastle 6.5 -- Defender
6. Todorov, Portsmouth 7.0 -- Striker
7. Howard, Man. United 6.5 -- Goalkeeper
8. Cole, Arsenal 8.0 -- Defender
9. Berger, Portsmouth 6.0 -- Midfield
10. Wiltord, Arsenal 9.0 -- Striker
11. Parker, Charlton 6.5 -- Midfield
12. Silas, Wolves 5.5 -- Midfield
13. Wiekens, Man. City 3.0 -- Defender
14. Andrews, Wolves 3.0 -- Defender
15.
Balance = 3.5

Hal -- Aviators
1. Beattie, Southampton 9.0 -- Striker
2. Kewell, Liverpool 10.0 -- Midfield
3. Fernandes, Southampton 6.5 -- Midfield
4. Kenna, Birmingham 4.5 -- Defender
5. Mellberg, Aston Villa 5.0 -- Defender
6. Dugarry, Birmingham 7.5 -- Striker
7. Holland, Charlton 6.5 -- Midfield
8. Gallas, Chelsea 7.5 -- Defender
9. Stubbs, Everton 5.0 -- Defender
10. Flitcroft, Blackburn 98 5.5 -- Midfield
11. Royce, Charlton 3.0 -- Goalkeeper
12. Solano, Newcastle 8.0 -- Midfield
13. Seaman, Man. City 5.5 -- Goalkeeper
14. Neill, Blackburn 6.5 -- Defender
15.
Balance = 10.0

kopiteinkc -- Kopite Juniors
1. Scholes, Man. United 10.0 -- Midfield
2. Friedel, Blackburn 6.5 -- Goalkeeper
3. Murphy, Liverpool 8.5 -- Midfield
4. Okocha, Bolton 8.0 -- Midfield
5. Gudjohnsen, Chelsea 9.5 -- Striker
6. Bridge, Chelsea 7.5 -- Defender
7. O'Shea, Man. United 7.5 -- Defender
8. Thompson, Blackburn 7.0 -- Midfield
9. Fowler, Man. City 9.0 -- Striker
10. Reid, Blackburn 6.0 -- Midfield
11. Henchoz, Liverpool 7.0 -- Defender
12. Burton, Portsmouth 4.0 -- Striker
13. Wapenaar, Portsmouth 3.0 -- Goalkeeper
14. Elliott, Newcastle 3.0 -- Defender
15.
Balance = 3.5

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It's 2.52am here.... I'm beat.

Ingromius
05 Aug 2003, 08:56 PM
Taggart 3.5 Leicester Def

And I'm already planning a trade as soon as the draft's done...

kopiteinkc
05 Aug 2003, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Ingromius
Taggart 3.5 Leicester Def

And I'm already planning a trade as soon as the draft's done...

I'll talk trades :)

Clan
05 Aug 2003, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Ingromius
And I might have picked Fortune for myself with the final pick, lest anyone suspect we weren't objective :)

Um, i actually had planed on picking him so i would have a little leeway on my salary cap...that is why i kept out of the discussion.

Ah well, back to the drawing board i guess.

Ingromius
05 Aug 2003, 09:01 PM
Hooray. I for one am a free man. Excellent work to those of you who stayed online such long hours to make this thing get done tonight. Let the post-draft analysis begin...

And now I'm already circling like a shark waiting to make a trade or 2. Are we opening up the free for all immediately after the official 150th pick or allowing a grace period?

kopiteinkc
05 Aug 2003, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Clanblue
Um, i actually had planed on picking him so i would have a little leeway on my salary cap...that is why i kept out of the discussion.

Ah well, back to the drawing board i guess.

Don't you have a rich russian friend who can loan you the money?

Hal
05 Aug 2003, 09:05 PM
PM me for trade consideration before I make my pick.

Jay's pick via proxy by cell phone:

Berkovic_ Man. City_ 107 7.5

money left 1.0

Clan
05 Aug 2003, 09:11 PM
#1. Duff..9.5..Chelsea..Midfield
#2. Anelka..10..Man City..Striker
#3. Djorkaeff..8.0..Bolton..Striker
#4. Juninho..9.0..Boro..Midfield
#5. Jensen..7.0..Charlton..Midfield
#6. Wright..5.5..Everton..Keeper
#7. Vieira..7.5..Arsenal..Midfield
#8. Viduka..9.5..Leeds..Striker
#9. Lazaridus..5.5..Brum..Midfield
#10. Le Saux..6.5..S'ton..Defender
#11. Short..5.0..Rovers..Defender
#12. McEveley..3.0..Rovers..Defender
#13. Rufus..5.5..Charlton..Defender
#14. Gerrard..3.5..Everton..Keeper
#15. Howey..4.5..Leicester..Defender.

Thats it folks.
All loaded into the system and first 11 picked and ready to go.

1800-WorldCup
05 Aug 2003, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by Hal
PM me for trade consideration before I make my pick.

Jay's pick via proxy by cell phone:

Poyet_ Tottenham_ 80 7.5

money left 1.0

He's suspended for the first three games.

Hal
05 Aug 2003, 09:13 PM
Good question on when to open the free for all.

Considerations:

1. MtKill will be surprised because he'll assume no one can hit the free agent pool until after he makes his picks (tomorrow night after 9 PM)

We could email him and let him know draft is done and free agency is open say at noon tomorrow?

2. Michel has probably gone to bed. I don't favor opening up the free agency pool tonight. For as much sleep as Michel gave up, I say to pick a start time that is reasonable for him, say noon or 1 PM EST which should be 6 or 7 PM for him.

3. With the provisional picks, it might be nice to see what their valuations are:
a) If the valuation busts the budget, then that player is available to everyone except the drafting manager.
b) If the valuation does not bust the budget, knowing the valuation allows that player to be considered in trades.

In consideration of 1,2, and 3 above, I suggest that we establish Thursday or Friday at noon or 1 PM EST (let Michel pick which is better for him) or Saturday at 10 AM - noon EST (7 AM - 9 AM PST), (4 PM - 6 PM Michel time).

kopiteinkc
05 Aug 2003, 09:13 PM
Steven Gerrard is suspended for the first match too

BuffloSoldier
05 Aug 2003, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by kopiteinkc
Steven Gerrard is suspended for the first match too
I'll survive. :D

Ingromius
05 Aug 2003, 09:18 PM
Hal, your suggestion of noon - 1ish tomorrow seems fair. I'll be out all day tomorrow anyway, but think I'll see what interesting transfers come into the league in the next week anyway.

Hal
05 Aug 2003, 09:20 PM
Given our other pick adjustment allowances, and that I pressure Jay to make the call from the cell phone while in a car and no access to a puter to check, I called Jay back and passed on Michel's info about Poyet's suspension.

Jay would like to adjust his pick to Berkovic from Man City 7.5 M

1800-WorldCup
05 Aug 2003, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Hal
Good question on when to open the free for all.

Considerations:

1. MtKill will be surprised because he'll assume no one can hit the free agent pool until after he makes his picks (tomorrow night after 9 PM)

We could email him and let him know draft is done and free agency is open say at noon tomorrow?

2. Michel has probably gone to bed. I don't favor opening up the free agency pool tonight. For as much sleep as Michel gave up, I say to pick a start time that is reasonable for him, say noon or 1 PM EST which should be 6 or 7 PM for him.

3. With the provisional picks, it might be nice to see what their valuations are:
a) If the valuation busts the budget, then that player is available to everyone except the drafting manager.
b) If the valuation does not bust the budget, knowing the valuation allows that player to be considered in trades.

In consideration of 1,2, and 3 above, I suggest that we establish Thursday or Friday at noon or 1 PM EST (let Michel pick which is better for him) or Saturday at 10 AM - noon EST (7 AM - 9 AM PST), (4 PM - 6 PM Michel time).

1. He'll probably thank you.

2. Don't worry about me regarding timing of the agency pool Grand Opening, I say you can all fire away as soon as you like.

I'm happy with what I've got at the moment and really need to see the form when the season begins. I don't see any advantages of diving into the pool just yet, or at least not fixing a time for it.

3. Perhaps the drafting manager should be able to release another player in the team, if he under valued.