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novastar400
01 Dec 2007, 11:10 PM
Just completely speculation, how much does everybody think a team would have to pay if they wanted to get these players assuming their respective teams would be willing to let them go?

Messi, Ronaldo, Rooney, Kaka, Robinho, Villa, Drogba, John Terry, Sergio Ramos, Daniel Alves, Bojan(seriously how much money would someone have to offer to get his kid), Casillas, Fabregas... To me, teams are going to have to make some ridiculous offers to get any of these guys, if they were on my team I wouldn't sell them... In my opinion Messi, Ronaldo, and Kaka are going for no less than 80 million euros, Villa, Drogba, Rooney, Fabregas and Robinho somewhere between 50-70 million euros and everybody else no less than 30 million euros... But really, how much is young Bojan worth??? what type of price tag do you put on this kid, I'm thinking a team is going to have to come with something over 40 million euros plus a proven player in return... What does everybody else think??? I bring this up because I really don't see these teams letting these players go the exception being Alves... I'm not really familiar with how much the money translates from one currency to the next so maybe these guys are worth more...

Canadian Azzurri
01 Dec 2007, 11:54 PM
No way Drogba goes for 50-70 million euros. Toni went for 11 million (correct me if I'm wrong); and he's only a year older with a better scoring record.

Teso Dos Bichos
02 Dec 2007, 08:20 AM
Messi, Ronaldo, Rooney, Kaka, Robinho, Villa, Drogba, John Terry, Sergio Ramos, Daniel Alves, Bojan, Casillas, Fabregas

I think Ronaldo would be pushing a world record fee because he is arguably the best player in world (regardless of what any bogus awards might state), is only 22 years old and combines the above with his image. The latter is an important factor to consider. A club is willing to spend more if they know that they will be making a lot of money in return during his stay. That puts him out in front of the others listed. €70m (£50m)

Messi, Kaka and Rooney are up there but would be in the second tier because of their lack of image. Neither Messi nor Rooney are 'attractive' and Kaka is far too humble (religious) to pimp himself out to aid his overall image. While all three would obviously bring in money through a variety of sources I cannot see them bringing in as much as Ronaldo. €57m (£40m) +

Robinho, Villa, Ramos, Casillas, Fabregas and Alves are in the next tier for a variety of different reasons including age, end product, position, image and potential. €29-43m (£20-30m)

Drogba, Terry and Bojan are in the last tier mainly because of their age and image. Bojan is only here because he is still a relative unknown although his potential might push him into the next tier. €29m (£20m) MAX

Obviously it is difficult to put an arbitrary figure on transfer fees because we have no idea whether the market will change again or if a club is willing to pay more for projected long-term service or not. Then you have certain clubs unrealistically pushing prices up as Chelsea have done previously.

novastar400
02 Dec 2007, 08:57 AM
You're absolutely right, teams buy players for different reasons and maybe because Ronaldo can bring in revenue he goes higher, but I still think any of those three could set a new world record transfer fee... I don't know I know Toni went for way less, but I still rate Drogba higher though... But maybe he doesn't go for a much... If people can think of more players you can add them to the list and put a price on them... Much appreciated... From what I've seen of young Bojan, he looks to be the real deal plus he's so young that's why I brought him up... I was bored and thought it might be good to speculate on this kind of stuff... I definitely could see Drogba, Villa, Kaka, and
Alves on the the move next summer... Feel free to add players...

Ronaldo 70+ million Euros
Kaka 50-70
Messi 50-70
Rooney 50-70
Robinho 30+
Drogba 20
Sergio Ramos 30+
John Terry 20
Casillas 30+
Fabregas 30+
Bojan 20
Alves 30+
Van der Vaart 20???
Benzema 20???
Quaresma

phil80
03 Dec 2007, 01:17 AM
Just imagine how large of a price drop Ronaldinho and Sheva have had from the beginning of the world cup until now.

gmonn
03 Dec 2007, 12:23 PM
Just imagine how large of a price drop Ronaldinho and Sheva have had from the beginning of the world cup until now.

I was going to ask, how about Ronaldinho?? Possibly the most talented player in the world, huge brand name, in a slump. If you think he's going cheap you're crazy. But how much will he go for?

If anybody thinks Messi goes for less than C. Ronaldo or Kaka I think you're mistaken. He's 20. Looks have nothing to do with it when you're talking about Lionel Messi--buzz, fame, prestige and potential--he's the hottest commodity in the world. Anybody know their respective buy-out clauses?

canadianscout
03 Dec 2007, 12:45 PM
Ronaldo €90
Messi €70
Kaka €60
Rooney €60
Fabregas €55
Robinho €40
Alves €35
Sergio Ramos €35
Van der Vaart €35
Benzema €35
Bojan €35
Quaresma €25
Drogba €20
Terry €20

phil80
03 Dec 2007, 09:58 PM
I was going to ask, how about Ronaldinho?? Possibly the most talented player in the world, huge brand name, in a slump. If you think he's going cheap you're crazy. But how much will he go for?

If anybody thinks Messi goes for less than C. Ronaldo or Kaka I think you're mistaken. He's 20. Looks have nothing to do with it when you're talking about Lionel Messi--buzz, fame, prestige and potential--he's the hottest commodity in the world. Anybody know their respective buy-out clauses?
Most people regard Messi and C Ronaldo on the same level, skill-wise. Ronaldo has an edge in terms of marketability with his image and boisterous persona. He also is insanely popular in the Asian market which has a huge impact on his transfer fee.

gmonn
03 Dec 2007, 10:20 PM
Most people regard Messi and C Ronaldo on the same level, skill-wise. Ronaldo has an edge in terms of marketability with his image and boisterous persona. He also is insanely popular in the Asian market which has a huge impact on his transfer fee.
People talk about image and extroversion, etc., and argue about skill. My impression right now is that Messi transcends all that. It seems right now that if any club could choose any one player, or their fans could choose one player, it would be Lionel Messi. I don't know if the PL is immune to that--maybe. The British are a little stiffer about players. I just bring up the PL because it's the center of the universe to a lot of posters here, which makes them think C. Ronaldo is as popular as Messi worldwide. I doubt it.

Iaquinta
03 Dec 2007, 10:24 PM
I would never pay that much for Drogba.

ibby
04 Dec 2007, 06:17 AM
I would never pay that much for Drogba.

nor would I for Rooney.

Teso Dos Bichos
04 Dec 2007, 06:58 AM
I would never pay that much for Drogba.

nor would I for Rooney.

Which valuation did you base this on?

ibby
04 Dec 2007, 08:44 AM
All.

everythingfootball
04 Dec 2007, 09:24 AM
I would be willing to pay more for:

Ronaldo
Messi

as this are young and would be the ones that bring in the most money for shirts sales etc. Not to forget these are young and could be in the side longer than some of the others. Also they would preform and set up/score alot of goals.

Next going by worth would be these:

Robinho
Rooney
Drogba
Terry
Kaka

Drogba and Rooney and kaka are proven they can score and Terry is a proven defender but don't think they would be in the team as long as Ronaldo or Messi because of age.

Kaka and Terry are older that Rooney,Robinho etc and would not be in the team as long as the others but i think would sell more shirts than Fabregas and Casillas so maybe that would bump up there price a team is willing to pay for them meaning they would be worth more than these two:

Casillas
Fabregas

Miran Klosnic
04 Dec 2007, 10:12 AM
There is no player who should be worth more than 20 Mio €. Everything above is just insane. Especially regarding the inflationary rise of prices during the last summer.

novastar400
04 Dec 2007, 10:31 AM
As far as the Asian market goes, that is definitely a place that if someone could tap into it they could generate huge revenue... Just as an example, I'll look up the numbers, but I know when Yao Ming played against Yi, it was estimated that 250 million people tuned in to watch the game... But I'm looking at this in the form of winning of championships... I mean if you don't want to win games, what's the point, that's marketing in itself... I mean to me, these are the type of players I'm trying to sign in order to win championships... For example, if Casillas was available, what kind of money is a team like Man U going to offer him??? To me it doesn't matter who you have in the squad, players like these guys are always welcome... If Ramos was available, how much is AC Milan willing to pay to get him... I mean to me marketing plays a big part, but I think winning is really what it's all about... That's why I brought up Bojan, just the potential factor alone is astounding... I mean how do you pass on a player who's potential is off the charts??? I mean marketing does play a part b/c some players value is going to be inflated b/c of the revenue they bring in from t-shirts sales, etc. But to me it all comes down to winning games and these are the type of players you need to win games...

Kerkrade
04 Dec 2007, 11:28 AM
Messi 50m
C. Ronaldo 50m
Rooney 45m
Kaka 40m
Ronaldinho 40m
Robinho 20m
Villa 15m
Drogba 15m
Terry 20m
Sergio Ramos 20m
Daniel Alves 20m
Bojan 30m
Sergio Agόero 25m
Casillas 10m
Fabregas 30m
Sneijder 30m
v/d Vaart 30m
Giovani dos Santos 20m
Muhammed Demirci (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiUA_JriWMs&mode=related&search=%3Cu) (12 yo) 5m
Lampard 20m
Richards 15m
Quaresma 15m
Nani 15m

JuveFE
04 Dec 2007, 11:45 AM
Messi 50m
C. Ronaldo 50m
Rooney 45m
Kaka 40m
Ronaldinho 40m
Robinho 20m
Villa 15m
Drogba 15m
Terry 20m
Sergio Ramos 20m
Daniel Alves 20m
Bojan 30m
Sergio Agόero 25m
Casillas 10m
Fabregas 30m
Sneijder 30m
v/d Vaart 30m
Giovani dos Santos 20m
Muhammed Demirci (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiUA_JriWMs&mode=related&search=%3Cu) (12 yo) 5m
Lampard 20m
Richards 15m
Quaresma 15m
Nani 15m

I'm not going to really guess what everyone would go for but I know if the best keeper in the world were to be sold (Buffon) he would go for about 30-40mil

Gmak
04 Dec 2007, 01:07 PM
I somehow feel Quaresma is a bit overrated. 10 mil at most for me.

ibby
04 Dec 2007, 01:26 PM
There is no player who should be worth more than 20 Mio €. Everything above is just insane. Especially regarding the inflationary rise of prices during the last summer.

Agreed but that point is immaterial in this thread as we are asked to judge them on todays market.

For Rooney, many are putting him ahead of Fabregas, that is laughable. Not only has the latter proven more but is blatantly the better player in terms of what he will bring to the team. Rooney's stock hasn't risen to what we thought it would have by now, I think he would agree himself, but that isn't all his fault as injures and the media aren't helping. But to the point he certainly isn't worth 45 mil (in todays market).