Cauldron location at CAB

[KCRovert]

I am going to open something up to the group for discussion.

This evening, a few of us met at CAB and took a tour, specifically to discuss location for The Cauldron. As it stands right now, I am presenting two options for discussion. I will include some pros & cons for each (from my take) and I suspect that the others (Kathy, Jason, George & Mike) will also post with their take on the options.

Option A
Pros:

Stadium seating
Good sightline
TV visibility
Good access to players taking corner kicks (about 10’ away)
Reserved seating
Sun will be behind us
Actual bleacher seating


Cons:

No direct access to players
Seats will run about $18 per game
Well elevated, should make streamers fly nicely


Option B
Pros:

Decent sightline
Very close access to goal/goalie
Good access to players
“Seats” would cost around $8.33 per game
Low cost should allow for really building the section
Berm holds over 600 people


Cons:

Grass berm, will be messy during poor/rainy weather
Incline of the berm is about 40 degrees
Will be hard on knees/ankles/feet/back standing on that grade
Concerned with the high probability of people falling down the berm and injuring themselves of those they roll into.
No seating, standing only


I know there are other pros & cons, so I want to open it for discussion.

Here is a map showing the location of Option A and Option B, by the left field corner:
http://a641.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/84/l_18119e427cc4302b34a24db49a31a100.jpg

[futuregrace]

Here is a picture of the area I believe you are talking about.
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2073664511&size=o

[KCRovert]

Here is a picture of the area I believe you are talking about.
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2073664511&size=o

Correct. Option B is the grass berm in the center of your pic. Option A is above the wall on the right of the pic (above the Buck O'neil sign).

[kuhnscoot]

Robert has posted the main pros/cons that I had on each. My biggest con of the berm is the potential for some serious injury from people (especially drunks) slipping/tripping and falling down the hill taking everyone in front of them with them. The grade is at least 40, in other places I think it's even steeper then that. It's gonna be rough for jumping, and people with any kind of knee or ankle problems is not going to like it much.

[Helghallen]

Robert has posted the main pros/cons that I had on each. My biggest con of the berm is the potential for some serious injury from people (especially Mike) slipping/tripping and falling down the hill taking everyone in front of them with them. The grade is at least 40, in other places I think it's even steeper then that. It's gonna be rough for jumping, and people with any kind of knee or ankle problems is not going to like it much.
Fixed your post. :p:D

[hipityhop]

Wow, the bleacher area is great, and when the opposition tries to take a corner kick in the left field corner area, YOU can bury him in streamers!!! It will take him 5 minutes to get the kick off, just like Toronto!!

[wadejackson1]

http://a641.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/84/l_18119e427cc4302b34a24db49a31a100.jpg

What's the possibility of acquiring the Picnic Area in the opposite corner?

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[KCRovert]

What's the possibility of acquiring the Picnic Area in the opposite corner?

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Unfortunately, as I understand it, that is not a possibility.

[kuhnscoot]

Wow, the bleacher area is great, and when the opposition tries to take a corner kick in the left field corner area, YOU can bury him in streamers!!! It will take him 5 minutes to get the kick off, just like Toronto!!

actually both spots would allow that.

They had the field marked out tonight. Not as tight a squeeze as we thought, and the sight lines on the first base side are not as bad as they appear in the rendering.

[Spoon]

Cons:

No direct access to players




This is not important. If it is important to you then you are not there for the right reasons. Sing louder and show your support they will come find you.

[Spoon]

Turn Option B into terraces and after we leave it could be turned into another picnic area.

[KCRovert]

This is not important. If it is important to you then you are not there for the right reasons. Sing louder and show your support they will come find you.

Your input is noted. Thanks.

Turn Option B into terraces and after we leave it could be turned into another picnic area.
At this point, that is not an option. It was discussed, but at this point it is not on the table.

[j_m_t]

as stated before, i am extremely against the berm, the angle of the hill is too much and makes it way too dangerous ... so far MLS has not had a tragedy (that i know of at least) and i think this non-seating area would be the cause of the first one.


i expect we all would like the price but it will come at a much heavier price

[the_cyclones]

Option A will give really really good sightlines.
but then again, option B(Berm), if you are right down in front, will get you inside the head of the goalkeeper - you are practically on the field.

Option A will have assigned seats too. Option B would not.

Honestly I think that if somehow Option B could have that grass terraced, it'd be perfect, but I don't think it's gonna happen.

Basically we have to decide about being down close, able to get in the keeper's head, on a grass hill (that in someplaces is steep) where we will actually impact the game versus a higher view(but a very good one) with assigned seating and more expensive seats. Both are attractive.

Either way, it sorta does have the potential to hurt Cauldron growth.

[cjgwizard]

The location of the Cauldron itself doesn't affect me (since I am a simple "hand-sitter" :rolleyes:), but it may affect what seats I actually choose since I was considering looking at the bleacher seats. I am confused about something....the seating chart shows that the entire left field area is bleachers, not a grass berm. Although pictures clearly show it is a grass berm at the present time, why would they show that section as bleachers on the seating chart and also charge a higher price if it is going to remain a grass berm? Just wanted some clarification.....thanks. :)

[the_cyclones]

...(since I am a simple "hand-sitter" :rolleyes:)...
I Knew it!


but it may affect what seats I actually choose since I was considering looking at the bleacher seats. I am confused about something....the seating chart shows that the entire left field area is bleachers, not a grass berm. Although pictures clearly show it is a grass berm at the present time, why would they show that section as bleachers on the seating chart and also charge a higher price if it is going to remain a grass berm? Just wanted some clarification.....thanks. :)

I think that initially it was decided that the grass area was to be turned into bleachers but that has changed. If it remains a berm, it will be $150 for tickets.

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I know there are price per game amounts out there. But again, incase one didn't know, bleachers are $324 and berm is $150. For me this affects whether or not I buy a 2nd season ticket for my kids to share.

[cjgwizard]

I Knew it!

Dude....should have been easy to figure that one out with the way I fought you on the terminology (or your use of the term without quotation marks or happy faces) a few weeks ago. :D I usually don't bite unless provoked....:p

[slashersfc]

"Hand-sitter" discussion aside, I think both options are very good for the next two seasons.

My personal preference is the berm, *ONLY* if they do something toward assuring our safety on the hill. If they leave it as is, then I want nothing to do with it because it is asking for huge problems trying to cram 300-600 drunkards on a steep incline.

If the T-Bones can terrace the area or put up some sort of hand-rails, I would be all for us using the berm; but since it sounds like that is not an option, I think the left field seats are the better option for us as a section.

[the_cyclones]

Dude....should have been easy to figure that one out with the way I fought you on the terminology (or your use of the term without quotation marks or happy faces) a few weeks ago. :D

but then if it is true and a spade is a spade then why would the spade mind being called such?

:)


ok, didn't mean to thread jack.

C'mon Cauldronites, speak up on this... la porra/american outlaws/etc - whoever stands in the Cauldron. Of course, I guess there are those here on BS that want to know where the Cauldron will be so they can "sit" as far away as possible. :)

[kuhnscoot]

C'mon Cauldronites, speak up on this... la porra/american outlaws/etc - whoever stands in the Cauldron. Of course, I guess there are those here on BS that want to know where the Cauldron will be so they can "sit" as far away as possible.

the FO needs to know soon so that they can block the area off from being taken on the STH seat night thing they are planning.