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teamwork
25 Nov 2007, 10:57 AM
It is not like we have to have a manager in place for the summer now is it, so we really can take our time. The only reason the FA have sacked him anyway, is not because of the fan pressure or the media it is because those board members have lost a lot of money, and that is the only reason he has gone. If no money was lost, he would still be head coach.

As it is though, we are now loom g across the world in order to find the man to not only try and win us a trophy, which doesn’t seem to be the objective anymore, but to get us out of the group stages and into the tournament itself.
Jose Mourinho – Although it is very unlikely that the people’s choice will want the job as he says he is too young and wants to be a club manager again before he thinks of the internationals side, and by the time it comes around again he may be offered the Portugal job so it’s a no unfortunately.

I would be looking for a manager who is the right age, and who has the right credentials, I am the first to admit and Englishman would be great but Harry Redknapp, Sam Alladryce, Alan Curbishley are not up to it, and the Martin O’Neill, David Moyes, and Mark Hughes would not want it anyway I don’t think. Also Marco van Basten would not be interested either as he has a job with Holland. Maco Ancelotti – Almost missed out on Euro anyway so would he be the right man for the job, and again would have to wait till at least after euro. Personally it is a no as he speaks even less English than Cappelo.

The shortlist I would come up with would consist of these ten:


Fabio Cappelo – A great manager, with a proven track record of winning competitions across Europe.
Marcello Lippi – won the world cup with a good side, but was no means favourites to win the world cup at the start.
Guss Hiddink – We would have to wait till at least after Euro 2008 now anyway, but then that is if he wants to manage us or does he fancy a club position – I think he still fancies Chelsea to be honest.
Jurgen Klinsmann – Took a weak German side along way in the world cup, and would inspire the team as he has been there and done it all. Knows the English game inside out from his playing days. Is used to the “Celebrity life” as he lives In Los Angeles.
Frank Rijkaard– The man keeps being linked with moves away from the Nou Camp and people still say he is not safe there. I think his attacking style of play would suit us down to the ground.
Ronald Kuman – I think would be a great appointment, has a good reputation across Europe as a top coach, would demand respect and plays a nice brand of football. Know one seems to have thrown his name out there – so I am, let’s get it circulating.
Claudio Ranieri – Is it too unlikely that the tinker man would be willing to return to England in order to coach the national side. He speaks English and was a good manager what ever people say about him.
Dieder Deschamps – Has won everything as a player, and again players would respect that. Knows how to create a good dressing room from his playing days.
Gerard Houllier – Took Liverpool to their treble, finished second in the premier league and has a good relationship with the likes of Owen, Heskey, & Gerrard, he knows the English game as well and speaks the language.
Alan Shearer - No experience, the biggest outsider in the race and that includes all the English and British managers named also. Would be a popular appointment among the fans, but would he have the knowledge of coaching to do it at the very highest level. I think we need a proven winner at this time. It would not surprise me however if in say 5 or 6 years he is the manager though.
Either way you look at this, we won’t have a say in the matter anyway, but that would be more short list and then I would widdle my way down from there. I am sure everybody already has their own idea of who should be next to take the hot seat, they are all better than McClaren anyway, but I would go with either: Cappello or Jurgen Klinsmann with my third choice of Kuman. That would be me but oh well im not at the FA.

Prenn
25 Nov 2007, 11:00 AM
The first paragraph is poo and as a result I didn't read the rest, sorry.

teamwork
25 Nov 2007, 12:12 PM
why is it, it is stating an opinion, and more than likely the true facts you complete numpty, go home and sit by Mommy and daddy

purpleronnie
25 Nov 2007, 12:28 PM
Lets hope they don't make a circus about the appointment process. Scolari was a knightmare and messed the fa about so much, and he is rumoured to have done this to get a better deal with Portugal, and then said no.

They also messed up not appointing martin o'neil. Even though he has now ruled himself out this time I think if the FA go to him and say Martin your the man we want do you want it?, he won't turn it down.

Forget this interview process, agree on someone and go after them.

Lots of managers wont interview well dosen't mean they aren't the best person for the job.

No more 'Yes' men!!!

Prenn
25 Nov 2007, 01:52 PM
They also messed up not appointing martin o'neil. Even though he has now ruled himself out this time I think if the FA go to him and say Martin your the man we want do you want it?, he won't turn it down.


None of the top 4 would appoint O'Neill so why the hell should England?

three lions
25 Nov 2007, 01:57 PM
None of the top 4 would appoint O'Neill so why the hell should England?

God, I hope not.. Mourinho and Capello should be on the short list, and the FA should go the distance to get either.

bête noire
25 Nov 2007, 02:04 PM
Fabio Cappelo – A great manager, with a proven track record of winning competitions across Europe.ahahhahaha, I'd love to see the FA beg the king of catenaccio to manage their NT so that they can qualify for a major football tournament again.
btw, it's spelled Capello; first italian lesson is for free :p

thanks for the fun guys :)

Prenn
25 Nov 2007, 02:28 PM
ahahhahaha, I'd love to see the FA beg the king of catenaccio to manage their NT so that they can qualify for a major football tournament again.
btw, it's spelled Capello; first italian lesson is for free :p

thanks for the fun guys :)

You muppet. :rolleyes:

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2215152,00.html

white riot
25 Nov 2007, 02:32 PM
Zammo says, "Just say no to Klinsmann or O'Niell."

HoBo30
25 Nov 2007, 02:38 PM
You guys should hire Bruce Arena.

white riot
25 Nov 2007, 02:41 PM
You guys should hire Bruce Arena.

Some of the guys at the FA are pretty stupid but they'd never appoint an Australian .

Prenn
25 Nov 2007, 04:36 PM
You guys should hire Bruce Arena.

Next Yank who thinks they're being oh-so witty by putting that will get a red card.

Matt Clark
25 Nov 2007, 05:19 PM
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]The only reason the FA have sacked him anyway, is not because of the fan pressure or the media it is because those board members have lost a lot of money, and that is the only reason he has gone. If no money was lost, he would still be head coach.
Umm ... what? Sorry, you appear to believe the FA is an independently owned commercial enterprise and that each of the "board members" you have heard about in the past two weeks is a businessman who has invested in this enterprise and, now that it has failed to qualify for Euro 2008, they are going to see a fall in the value of their investment.

I don't blame anyone for going this far, and only this far, with your post.

I suppose we could be charitable and presume that you meant to say that the FA as an organisation has lost out on earning the sort of revenue associated with participation in a major international tournament. But even if we were that nice to you, the rest of the point would still be total cobblers. For a start, there are no circumstances in which the result of Wednesday could have occured without a loss of such revenue, so your point about his continued employment is not so much hypothetical as fantastical; beyond that, even if there was some magical way in which losing out on a major tournament didn't mean losing out on a major revenue stream, McClaren would still have been sacked. He'd lost the support of the nation, the media and most of the board members of whom you talk. To retain his services would have been to invite criticism of a level and kind that no one in the FA hierarchy had any reason or will to risk.

purpleronnie
25 Nov 2007, 05:42 PM
I love how the FA have come out and said their leading their own investigation of the state of english football. Surely someone outside the FA should do this? Of corse not because if they did the whole FA board would be sacked. I'm sure they'll come up with a few minor points, nothing will change and the closest thing they'll come to a football match is if they hold one of their champagne lunches at old trafford.

Once the discomfort and embarrassment of the Press call was over, the next tortuous event was flying first-class to South Africa and a stay in a luxury hotel.

You need to keep up with times. You need leaders that inspire confidence in those that look up to them.

We need football men in charge of the FA not some failed business men.

sinner78
25 Nov 2007, 05:49 PM
It is not like we have to have a manager in place for the summer now is it, so we really can take our time. The only reason the FA have sacked him anyway, is not because of the fan pressure or the media it is because those board members have lost a lot of money, and that is the only reason he has gone. If no money was lost, he would still be head coach.

As it is though, we are now loom g across the world in order to find the man to not only try and win us a trophy, which doesn’t seem to be the objective anymore, but to get us out of the group stages and into the tournament itself.
Jose Mourinho – Although it is very unlikely that the people’s choice will want the job as he says he is too young and wants to be a club manager again before he thinks of the internationals side, and by the time it comes around again he may be offered the Portugal job so it’s a no unfortunately.

I would be looking for a manager who is the right age, and who has the right credentials, I am the first to admit and Englishman would be great but Harry Redknapp, Sam Alladryce, Alan Curbishley are not up to it, and the Martin O’Neill, David Moyes, and Mark Hughes would not want it anyway I don’t think. Also Marco van Basten would not be interested either as he has a job with Holland. Maco Ancelotti – Almost missed out on Euro anyway so would he be the right man for the job, and again would have to wait till at least after euro. Personally it is a no as he speaks even less English than Cappelo.

The shortlist I would come up with would consist of these ten:


Fabio Cappelo – A great manager, with a proven track record of winning competitions across Europe.
Marcello Lippi – won the world cup with a good side, but was no means favourites to win the world cup at the start.
Guss Hiddink – We would have to wait till at least after Euro 2008 now anyway, but then that is if he wants to manage us or does he fancy a club position – I think he still fancies Chelsea to be honest.
Jurgen Klinsmann – Took a weak German side along way in the world cup, and would inspire the team as he has been there and done it all. Knows the English game inside out from his playing days. Is used to the “Celebrity life” as he lives In Los Angeles.
Frank Rijkaard– The man keeps being linked with moves away from the Nou Camp and people still say he is not safe there. I think his attacking style of play would suit us down to the ground.
Ronald Kuman – I think would be a great appointment, has a good reputation across Europe as a top coach, would demand respect and plays a nice brand of football. Know one seems to have thrown his name out there – so I am, let’s get it circulating.
Claudio Ranieri – Is it too unlikely that the tinker man would be willing to return to England in order to coach the national side. He speaks English and was a good manager what ever people say about him.
Dieder Deschamps – Has won everything as a player, and again players would respect that. Knows how to create a good dressing room from his playing days.
Gerard Houllier – Took Liverpool to their treble, finished second in the premier league and has a good relationship with the likes of Owen, Heskey, & Gerrard, he knows the English game as well and speaks the language.
Alan Shearer - No experience, the biggest outsider in the race and that includes all the English and British managers named also. Would be a popular appointment among the fans, but would he have the knowledge of coaching to do it at the very highest level. I think we need a proven winner at this time. It would not surprise me however if in say 5 or 6 years he is the manager though.
Either way you look at this, we won’t have a say in the matter anyway, but that would be more short list and then I would widdle my way down from there. I am sure everybody already has their own idea of who should be next to take the hot seat, they are all better than McClaren anyway, but I would go with either: Cappello or Jurgen Klinsmann with my third choice of Kuman. That would be me but oh well im not at the FA.

We should go for Kuman.
The indian middle order batsman.

Or Jurgen Klingsman ,from your previous thread

stiffmeister
25 Nov 2007, 06:14 PM
I think it is spelled KOEMAN, and no, i don't think so. Even his last results at Valencia proves me right. Mediocre coach, nothing else.

Silverblue
26 Nov 2007, 09:45 AM
I think there is a rush because Mourinho is way out there the best candidate. He will take another club as soon as one is availiable so there is urgency. He has not said no. His sources say he wants to be asked. It's worth Barwick getting on a plane to Setubal offering him anything he wants.

He has won more trophies in the last 6 years than any other manager. He knows English football and the players so there's no settling in period. He has a great relationship with 1/3 of the squad already. He speaks good English. The new manager should be appointed before the first friendly in March and there may be a date free in Feb too. So he can start getting the squad adjusted to his formations and tactics. The team needs to be preapred way in advance of the 1st qualiier which starts early Sep. There is a limited no. of opportunities before then. We have to hit the ground running with the qualifiers.

I hate to point out to teamwork but David Moyes, Mark Hughes and MON are not English. If we can't get JM I'd go for O'Neill but it sounds like he is not availiable this time around. Then Klinsmann. Capello is a great manager but does not speak English nor does he know English football at all. How can you give a rousing half-time team talk if you cannot communicate directly with the players. I hope to God our stuiped FA do not hire Scolari this time around. Or give it to untried candidates like Shearer. Just head directly to Mourinho. :)

superdave
26 Nov 2007, 11:00 AM
You guys should hire Bruce Arena.
Yeah, England need to regain the glorious heights of losing in the quarterfinals.

superdave
26 Nov 2007, 11:01 AM
Next Yank who thinks they're being oh-so witty by putting that will get a red card.
Oops.

superdave
26 Nov 2007, 11:05 AM
I hate to point out to teamwork but David Moyes, Mark Hughes and MON are not English.
I thought it was funny how he named a Scot, a Welshman, and an Irishman. It's like he wanted to touch all the bases of wrongness.

Yeah, I know how the multiquote works. I just got surprised.