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billyireland
23 Jul 2003, 02:29 PM
Could somebody please explain to me the deal with Michael Owen and Wales? I've heard he's half Welsh or something or at least eligible to paly for them (had he never played for England)? I'm jsut curious because, with the Welsh resourgence, imagine what Owen, Bellamy & Hartson up front would do, it'd be bizarre
Chester FC
23 Jul 2003, 02:43 PM
i'm not sure where he was actually born (probably at Chester hospital), but Owen grew up and still lives in the town of Hawarden in North Wales (just over the border). Home of Lord Gladstone
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/PRgladstone.htm
Owen is know as a great guy and has actually bought a whole block in Hawarden for is family to live on.
skipshady
23 Jul 2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by billyireland
Could somebody please explain to me the deal with Michael Owen and Wales? I've heard he's half Welsh or something or at least eligible to paly for them (had he never played for England)? I'm jsut curious because, with the Welsh resourgence, imagine what Owen, Bellamy & Hartson up front would do, it'd be bizarre Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/northeast/guides/halloffame/sport/michael_owen.shtml
Michael Owen was born in Chester (though I read somewhere that a part of the hospital lies in Wales - can anyone confirm?) to English parents, but he was raised, and now lives in Wales. He has one Scottish grandparent, so he's 3/4 English and 1/4 Scottish.
He also played for England's schoolboy team (as did Ryan Giggs) as he attended school in England.
Considering all this, England really seems the natural choice.
rauld10
23 Jul 2003, 02:52 PM
Apparently where Owen was born, Chester, England is very close to Wales.
http://www.utoronto.ca/patrons/englandmap.html.
He can't play for Wales, he's cap tied to England by having played in a senior team FIFA tournament (World Cup, Euro, etc). A player can play for a youth national team and not be tied to that country, but as soon as they play for the senior national team they're limited to playing only for that country.
skipshady
23 Jul 2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by rauld10
He can't play for Wales, he's cap tied to England by having played in a senior team FIFA tournament (World Cup, Euro, etc). A player can play for a youth national team and not be tied to that country, but as soon as they play for the senior national team they're limited to playing only for that country. Well, Billy did say "had he never played for England" so I'm sure he knew that he's no longer eligible to play for Wales.
Lanky134
23 Jul 2003, 03:01 PM
Unless he defects for political reasons, right?
kopiteinkc
23 Jul 2003, 03:07 PM
Had he never played for England, the only other country he "could" have played for is Scotland.
He was never eligible for Wales.
skipshady
23 Jul 2003, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Lanky134
Unless he defects for political reasons, right? Exactly.
usscouse
23 Jul 2003, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by skipshady
Exactly. F R E E D O M . . . . ! ! !
Ooops, sorry. My dad did come from Bangor though.
The Original "Hughie Lewis"
Lanky134
23 Jul 2003, 04:57 PM
Bangor? I don't even know her!
I just never get tired of the classics...
kopiteinkc
23 Jul 2003, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by usscouse
My dad did come from Bangor though.
My Mum and Dad always go on about Bangor, they met there during the war. They were both evacuated to Welsh farms when Liverpool was being bombed. They were both about 11 or 12 at the time.
My Dad was pleased to leave though, when he came back his house was gone!! Bloody Germans.
kopiteinkc
23 Jul 2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Lanky134
Bangor? I don't even know her!
I just never get tired of the classics...
And we never tire of you Lanky, we never tire of you ;)
usscouse
23 Jul 2003, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by kopiteinkc
And we never tire of you Lanky, we never tire of you ;) Bangor? I don't even know her!
Gees... That's as bad as Jamaica...:)
Hey, I went to Llandrindod Wells and the bastids got my Grandma's place on Everton Brow. Problem was she was in it.
Lanky134
23 Jul 2003, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by kopiteinkc
And we never tire of you Lanky, we never tire of you ;)
Give it time.
kopiteinkc
23 Jul 2003, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Lanky134
Give it time.
I reckon you're suffering enough with that so called team that graces RFK stadium.
Matt Clark
24 Jul 2003, 02:59 AM
Legend has it that when Micheal Owen's Mum went in to labour his Dad insisted on ignoring the local hospital (in Wales) and driving the extra 15 miles to Chester (England) so that sonny jim could be born in England.
Probably nonsense though. I've not got kids, but I can just imagine the trouble I would experience if I tried that stunt at the precise moment that my fiancee were about to give birth. The child would have to be raised by a single mother ...
usscouse
24 Jul 2003, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Matt Clark
Legend has it that when Micheal Owen's Mum went in to labour his Dad insisted on ignoring the local hospital (in Wales) and driving the extra 15 miles to Chester (England) so that sonny jim could be born in England.
Probably nonsense though. I've not got kids, but I can just imagine the trouble I would experience if I tried that stunt at the precise moment that my fiancee were about to give birth. The child would have to be raised by a single mother ... Many moons ago I worked for Air New Zealand in Auckland and played for their football team.
Great team, we had players who had played for Chelsea, Sunderland and Sheffield Wednesday, the company would fly us all around the Pacific basin to play. Fun days.
Bobby Campbell played left wing (He used to play for one of those obscure Scottish clubs) Put his pregnant wife on a plane going half way around the world so his son could be born in Scotland.
She’s probably too old to play for the Scottish Ladies team now.
Lanky134
24 Jul 2003, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by kopiteinkc
I reckon you're suffering enough with that so called team that graces RFK stadium.
I don't want to talk about it
How you broke my heart
skipshady
25 Jul 2003, 11:12 AM
So let's get back to more pressing issues. Will Mikey's new look help him? Or is it a sign that he is fading and deperately trying to find any sort of boost?
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030725/capt.1059128548.hong_kong_liverpool_xvy103.jpg
Personally, I wish he'd stop copying my look.
LiverpoolFanatic
25 Jul 2003, 04:45 PM
Maybe he's tired of being called the "boy wonder", so he's changing the image a bit. Just a thought (alright not a good one but still).