Oliver Bierhoff

[Borussia]

Let's start a thread dedicated to Oliver Bierhof (especially after his serious dispute with Rudi Völler lately).

http://www.learn-line.nrw.de/angebote/zeus/thema/promis/fotos/bierhoff2.jpg

http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/9/C/HB9C4lva_Pxgen_r_380xA.jpg

[Borussia]

http://www.fussballportal.de/images/wm2006/1259035.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Oliver_Bierhoff.JPG/200px-Oliver_Bierhoff.JPG

http://www.fansoccer.de/turniere/hallenturniere/oddset06/bericht/jdbierhoffprinz.jpg

[bltleo]

Yeah, I have heard about "distputy" between our Rudi Völler and Oliver Bierhoff..

and I´m glad you openend this thread with many cool pictures:)


and here is the article "Rudi Völler contra Oliver Bierhoff":
http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,518275,00.html

[Borussia]

http://www.dfb.de/fileadmin/video/nationalmannschaft/bild/bierhoff.jpg

http://www.dfb.de/bios/xml/ateam/trainerc.jpg

http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/n/s/HBnspYSr_Pxgen_r_467xA.jpg

[Borussia]

What do you think about the dispute between Oliver Bierhoff and Rudi Völler? :eek:

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/nationalelf/startseite/artikel/161774/

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,518174,00.html

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,518275,00.html


I've always admired Rudi Völler (despite his numerous blindfold eruptions in the past), but this statement about his former team mate & player (2002) Bierhoff, who once scored 2 vital goals for Germany in the EC 1996 final at Wembley, is simply a shame in my eyes! :rolleyes:


Quote Völler :

"Mit Spielern, die Klubs wie Köln, Bayern München, Stuttgart, Bremen oder Bayer Leverkusen ausgebildet haben, kannst du diese Philosophie umsetzen. Die Philosophie für den Spieler Oliver Bierhoff, die musste noch erfunden werden. Brasilianische Spielweise einfordern mit Füßen aus Malta, das geht eben nicht."


"Ich möchte Bierhoff zu etwas mehr Demut raten, zu größerer Zurückhaltung. Er sollte sich in den nächsten Tagen bei Dr. Müller Wohlfahrt untersuchen lassen. Das permanente Sich-selbst-auf-die-Schulter-Klopfen muss doch schmerzhafte Schädigungen nach sich ziehen"

[Projekt4]

What do you think about the dispute between Oliver Bierhoff and Rudi Völler? :eek:

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/nationalelf/startseite/artikel/161774/

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,518174,00.html

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,518275,00.html


I've always admired Rudi Völler (despite his numerous blindfold eruptions in the past), but this statement about his former team mate & player (2002) Bierhoff, who once scored 2 vital goals for Germany in the EC 1996 final at Wembley, is simply a shame in my eyes! :rolleyes:


Quote Völler :

"Mit Spielern, die Klubs wie Köln, Bayern München, Stuttgart, Bremen oder Bayer Leverkusen ausgebildet haben, kannst du diese Philosophie umsetzen. Die Philosophie für den Spieler Oliver Bierhoff, die musste noch erfunden werden. Brasilianische Spielweise einfordern mit Füßen aus Malta, das geht eben nicht."


"Ich möchte Bierhoff zu etwas mehr Demut raten, zu größerer Zurückhaltung. Er sollte sich in den nächsten Tagen bei Dr. Müller Wohlfahrt untersuchen lassen. Das permanente Sich-selbst-auf-die-Schulter-Klopfen muss doch schmerzhafte Schädigungen nach sich ziehen"

Unfortunately, Bierhoff's cocky approach to his either meaningless or undeserved position has annoyed me for years. It's perfectly fine that he is receiving a generous pension from the association, but he should shut up in public. The scary thing is that he may be around for decades, unless they find a way to "promote" him out of the limelight.

Kudos to Rudi Ranter :D

PS: He's wrong though regarding the issue at stake. We absolutely wouldn't be where we are without the changes the DFB has made in recent years.

[Borussia]

Why should he shut up? He has a certain position at DFB and his criticism towards the Bundesliga clubs is totally backed by Jogi Löw (take a look at his interview from a few days ago)!

Rudi Völler is entitled to react on the criticism ... but definitely not in such an offending way! :mad: Oliver Bierhoff scored the most goals of a German player in Seria A and won the Scudetto & EC 1996, so it's ridiculous to attest him a Malta level! As far as I remember, Rudi Völler wasn't the best technician either...

[ForeverRed]

Glory at Euro 96! My first football tournament!

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/de/continental/contisoccerworld/themen/00_euro_2008/05b_em_stars/img/96_bierhoff_koepke_de;property=original.jpg

http://www.reflex.cz/images/tistenyrx/2006/08/74_2.jpg

http://politiken.dk/archive/00178/Oliver_Bierhoff_178167c.jpg

[Projekt4]

Why should he shut up? He has a certain position at DFB and his criticism towards the Bundesliga clubs is totally backed by Jogi Löw (take a look at his interview from a few days ago)!

Rudi Völler is entitled to react on the criticism ... but definitely not in such an offending way! :mad: Oliver Bierhoff scored the most goals of a German player in Seria A and won the Scudetto & EC 1996, so it's ridiculous to attest him a Malta level! As far as I remember, Rudi Völler wasn't the best technician either...

Yes, he has a certain position, and therefore he shouldn't respond to a rant with a rant. He's done this repeatedly. And he always wants influence of which he isn't deserving. He's just too cocky. Jogi has the both the authority and the diplomatic skills to criticise the clubs.

[Borussia]

Hey, are you Uli Hoeneß or Kalle Rummenigge in disguise? :p

Btw: It's not about having the right to criticize or not ... it's about the way you do it! Völler is entitled to critisize Bierhoff as well - but please without offending him! :rolleyes:

[Projekt4]

Hey, are you Uli Hoeneß or Kalle Rummenigge in disguise? :p

No. These two are totally into responding to a rant with a rant :D

Rummenigge would say in Völler's position: That I'm blasting him only shows I'm his friend.

[Borussia]

Cool! :D

I think you agree with me that Völler's statement is totally unacceptable, though.

[bltleo]

Cool! :D

I think you agree with me that Völler's statement is totally unacceptable, though.

well I can not express my opinion on this...cause I know Rudi Völler..he lives in Leverkusen
and I met him few times....I´m fan of both Bierhoff and Völler...Maybe Rudi was even too hard with his opinion on Bierhoff ...Bierhoff was big contribution to german soccer and he still does good job...i would not critize him as Rudi did...uhp..hope Rudi did not read it:) ...otherwise he will fire me from the stadium:)

[Klask]

I fully agree with dh228.

I laughed when I read Rudi's quote and it was nice to see someone stood up against the man with the biggest mouth and the most unimportant role at DFB.

[Borussia]

I laughed when I read Rudi's quote and it was nice to see someone stood up against the man with the biggest mouth and the most unimportant role at DFB.

To be honest, I didn't expect another comment from a Bayern fan (for some good reason)...



Btw: Here's 2 more articles about this topic and an interesting comment from "Focus".

http://www.focus.de/sport/fussball/em2008/streit-um-dfb-elf_aid_139692.html

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/weltfussball/artikel/957/143636/

http://www.focus.de/sport/fussball/em2008/tid-8042/dfb-analyse_aid_139778.html


and I met him few times


When you meet him next time, please tell him to attend a rhetoric course as soon as possible and to try thinking before talking in the future! :-)

He was everybody's darling until now, but with this incredible statement below the belt he lost at least my sympathies!

[bltleo]

I fully agree with dh228.

I laughed when I read Rudi's quote and it was nice to see someone stood up against the man with the biggest mouth and the most unimportant role at DFB.

looks like Rudi Völler is not alone..now Hoeneß critizes Bierhoff as well:)

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,518573,00.html

"Ich teile die Ansicht, dass Oliver Bierhoff immer ein bisschen besserwisserisch rüberkommt. Er will uns klarmachen, dass im Zuge der guten Erfolge der Nationalmannschaft alles gut für den Fußball aussieht. Ich glaube nicht, dass er Rudi Völler oder mir ein X für ein U vormachen kann. Er wäre gut beraten, diese permanenten Schlaumeiereien für sich zu behalten."

[bltleo]

When you meet him next time, please tell him to attend a rhetoric course as soon as possible and to try thinking before talking in the future! :-)

He was everybody's darling until now, but with this incredible statement below the belt he lost at least my sympathies!

Maybe Rudi Völler should have told it in a bit softer way...but you know that Rudi Völler if he is mad, sometimes overact:)....do you remember his interview with TV moderator Waldemar Hartmann (after Game of German NT in Island).

"Du sitzt hier auf deinem Stuhl und hast drei Weizenbier getrunken und bist schön locker", und erklärte, dass er "diesen Scheißdreck nicht mehr hören" wolle. "

Hartmann took it with humor and answered:
"Also, in Island gibt es kein Weizenbier, ich bin auch kein Weizenbiertrinker"

P.S If i see him next time, I will let him know about "rhetoric course":)

[bltleo]

generally I would say: National coach and manager should care of national team and Bundesliga coaches of their clubs..however there should be an effective communication between Bundesliga and National team - but there is no need for a one strategy...of course Bundesliga should support The national team..but both National team and Bundesliga should be free in their decision...

if Bundesliga is not doing well internationally, then we can blame coaches of the BL clubs:)

[Klask]

looks like Rudi Völler is not alone..now Hoeneß critizes Bierhoff as well:)

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,518573,00.html

"Ich teile die Ansicht, dass Oliver Bierhoff immer ein bisschen besserwisserisch rüberkommt. Er will uns klarmachen, dass im Zuge der guten Erfolge der Nationalmannschaft alles gut für den Fußball aussieht. Ich glaube nicht, dass er Rudi Völler oder mir ein X für ein U vormachen kann. Er wäre gut beraten, diese permanenten Schlaumeiereien für sich zu behalten."

His criticism or should I say his words are not as harsh as Rudi's which is a shame :D Good thing you brought the Walder Hartmann scene, that was hilarious - but I have to say I felt sorry for Hartmann, he's a nice guy after all.

To be honest, I didn't expect another comment from a Bayern fan (for some good reason)...

Please make your posts more clear and avoid the risk of people misunderstanding you which could lead to a rather meaningless discussion and a waste of time. I don't get where you're going at, and what the heck you're trying to tell me..:confused:

[Borussia]

Please make your posts more clear and avoid the risk of people misunderstanding you which could lead to a rather meaningless discussion and a waste of time. I don't get where you're going at, and what the heck you're trying to tell me..:confused:

Ok, is it enough when I tell you that the Bayern officials & fans are no Bierhoff "friends"?