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dor02
19 Nov 2007, 08:12 AM
There aren't too many threads about coaches/managers, yet alone ones about them getting praise. Instead of posting who were the best, here's a thread about coaches who you like so you can show some bias. If your knowledge is limited to just the last 10 years, please do the research.

Here's my Top 10:

1. Vittorio Pozzo - one of the most succesful managers ever. He played a huge part in making Italy a power in World Football. He's the only manager to have won two World Cups. He was a great motivator and psychologist, not just a great tactician. Pozzo would even get players from rival teams to stay in the same hotel room so even if two players hated each other, he'd put them together. He didn't muck around.

2. Marcello Lippi - he has done great stuff for Juve and Italy. He won everything with Juve, helped Italy to win their first World cup in 24 years and his teams don't usually play stereotypical calcio

3. Enzo Bearzot - he helped to break what was at the time, the biggest World Cup winning drought when Italy won the 1982 World Cup. At a time when most Italian teams played catenaccio, he forced the NT to attack. At Argentina 78, the Azzurri were one of the best teams in the early rounds and in Spain 82, the team just went up several gears after the first round. You have to admire a man who broke a trend for the better of his team

4. Bobby Robson - I'm not a big fan of the English and the way they play but Robson's England is the best English side post-Ramsey. When the image of English Football was poor around 1990, he played guys like Platt, Gazza and Waddle in the English NT and the English had an impressive campaign

5. Valeri Lobanovsky - the greatest manager from the former USSR. He turned Dynamo Kiev into a power in Europe and he brought in such Ukrainian stars such as Blokhin, Belanov and Shevchenko. His style was very unique when I first saw it. It was fast but there were short and long passes, mostly on the ground and very hard. His teams scored plenty goals from long range. It was a mix of Dutch and English Football with a touch of the Soviet scientific approach.

6. Vujadin Boskov - coached Sampdoria to many successes in the 80s and 90s. Sure, Vialli and Mancini were the stars during his time but he did well to compliment the other nine players with i gemelli del gol

7. Anghel Iordanescu - without him, most Romanian sides have done crap! After Emerich Jenei's 1990 team rached the second round, Iordanescu took Romania to the USA 94 quarter-finals. Hagi was in career-best form and when Raducioiu was out of the match against Argentina, he still persisted in Ilie Dumitrescu and he played the game of his life. Romania under Iordanescu played rapid, counter-attacking football and it's doubtful that any other Romanian coach can improve or motivate his players like he does.

8. Guy Thys - there are some people that would rate Raymond Goethals at the best Belgian coach ever but on the basis of his WC record, I prefer Thys. He played an important part in the greatest era of Belgian football, especially when Belgium reached the semi-finals in Mexico 86.

9. Cesar Luis Menotti - I don't agree with his philosophy in which "attacking football is left-wing football" but I do argee with belief that players should be free to express themselves. Argentina around 1978 was known for producing cynical teams for the previous 15-20 years. There's always some controversy about Argentina's win against Peru but Menotti's men played well throughout the tornament and they played with more flair than what most people had seen from an Argentine side in a long time.

10. Helmut Schoen - the manager of West German from 1963-78, he had great track record and in nearly every match, he would always make the right substitutions. Schoen's West Germany played some of the best football his nation has ever produced and managed to play the greatest German players in the one team. Too bad his Italian counterpart, Valcareggi, couldn't take a page out his book. At the same time, what Schoen did with Seeler and Muller at Mexico 70, was a Pozzo-esque thing.

Excape Goat
19 Nov 2007, 11:50 AM
Not in order

1) Jürgen Klinsmann: He introduced many new scientific ideas from North American sport to soccer. I am a big NFL fan and I thought that those are wonderful ideas. I also like the way he transformed German soccer.

2) Bruce Arena: About 12 years ago, a guy who was working with him at the time asked me whether I would help Mr. Arena as a volunteer at UVA. I turned it down because I did not want to be his waterboy. Sometimes, I still wondered what my life would become have I went to see Mr. Arena.

ManchesterUtdFanatic
20 Nov 2007, 04:50 AM
Okay I'm going to base this on current coaches.

1. Sir Alex Ferguson
2. Arsene Wenger
3. Marcelo Lippi
4. Guus Hiddink
5. Claudio Ranieri
6. Louis van Gaal
7. Frank Rijkaard
8. Luiz Felipe Scolari
9. Carlo Ancelotti
10. Otto Rehhagel

All that I could think of right now.

johan neeskens
20 Nov 2007, 07:23 AM
Any 'of all time' list that doesn't include Michels is silly.

ForeverRed
20 Nov 2007, 04:03 PM
Some of my favorites:

1. Ottmar Hitzfeld

Arsene Wenger
Otto Rehhagel
Sir Alex (gotta respect the man)
Klinsmann
Christoph Daum
Ernst Happel

dor02
20 Nov 2007, 09:02 PM
Any 'of all time' list that doesn't include Michels is silly.Even if it's personal favourites?

johan neeskens
21 Nov 2007, 03:21 AM
Even if it's personal favourites?

Yes, if you indicate that you like so and so because of what so and so has achieved, in any case. You make an argument for each of the 10 coaches you list based on their success and achievements, not on whether you like their personality or coaching style. So if success is part of your criteria, I can't see how you can leave our Michels, who after all was the best coach of the 20th century according to both UEFA and FIFA.

dor02
22 Nov 2007, 09:44 AM
Yes, if you indicate that you like so and so because of what so and so has achieved, in any case. You make an argument for each of the 10 coaches you list based on their success and achievements, not on whether you like their personality or coaching style. So if success is part of your criteria, I can't see how you can leave our Michels, who after all was the best coach of the 20th century according to both UEFA and FIFA.The list can based on anything but in terms of success, I did put some emphasis on success to an extent. If I focused mostly on character, Serse Cosmi would have been on my list and maybe even Camacho just on the basis of his sweaty armpits. If it was all about style, Michels would have made my list but I usually don't put in people who get too much praise on a personal faves list. I'm not saying Michels is overrated but it's like me putting Pele and Maradona in my Top 10 personal favourite players list. Sure I like them and respect them but I don't have a real soft spot for them.

If you want me to elaborate on style and personality, here's some stuff:

Pozzo - my pick is based on success here. He was a serious man and authoritorian but he made sure that he was the boss. He made sure the players played for him and that they would wear the jumper with pride. Pozzo was an Anglophile and loved the English was of playing but he managed to combine that love with the technical brilliance of the Italian players

Bearzot - in terms of personality, he didn't as serious as other Italian coaches, IMO. His way of playing stood out most because he attacked when most Italians in his era were usually cautious. His 1-3-3-3 formation provided some of the best football the Azzurri has played. Short-passing with intricate moves and players were encouraged to dribble with the ball. In Bearzot's Azzurri, Scirea played the attacking sweeper role, not a negative-type sweeper role like a Picchi or Rosato from previous eras, a guy like Graziani could make selfish runs and even DMs like Tardelli and Oriali dribbled with the ball.

Lippi - there's something about the coat and cigar that stands out. It's his trademark. From an aesthetics point of view, Lippi's Juve was arguably the most entertaining of all Juve teams. Especially in his early days, he would go with a trident attack. His Juve teams didn't sit back like Trap's Juve. They were faster than most other Italian sides but still a technical side and they could score all types of goals from many angles and distances. In his earlier days, Lippi would play Vialli, Ravanelli and ADP in attack and players like Di Livio and Torricelli would give some width. Once Zidane came to Juve, Zizou and ADP were in the one team and even guys like Lombardo and Jugovic, all good dribblers in their own right, would play. Then Davids came and he would make runs from midfield. Lippi's Juve was simpley great to watch, even in his recent stint.

I'll mention the others later.

Moishe
22 Nov 2007, 08:34 PM
Some of my favorites were Carlos Bianchi, Menotti and Sir Alex Ferguson.

Grinners89
23 Nov 2007, 01:08 AM
Graham Arnold...nah just joking...but seriously how about that Graham Arnold fellow...with his record...he should be the next England manager

dor02
23 Nov 2007, 03:48 AM
Graham Arnold...nah just joking...but seriously how about that Graham Arnold fellow...with his record...he should be the next England managerI agree! :p

The other managers:

Robson - he is one of the more likeable English managers. He doesn't seem to be the whinging type. He proved to be a hit on continental Europe and he did an impressive job in his Porto and Barca days. As for entertainment value, his England side, at least in the knock-out stages of Italia 90, were very good to watch. There were long passes but they weren't all hopeful long balls. English players were allowed express themselves and that was necessary in a squad with players such as Waddle, Gazza, Beardsley, Platt and Barnes (when he was available). They were still a fast team but they weren't as one-dimensional as most other English teams. Robson proved to be a manager who wasn't trapped with all English ideals. He was a more cultured manager

Boskov - this is based mostly on success than on his management style or personality. He had a huge tendancy to state the obvious

Thys - Belgian teams are usually labelled as boring but his sides weren't. It helps to have players like Ceulemans and Scifo in your team but his players attacked from anywhere and played with more ambition than a typical Belgian side

Menotti - I don't like the fact that he is a socialist but his smoking habits provide an unforgettable image of him. Menotti's teams didn't play with a traditional Argentine style. His players made longer runs and longer passes too. There was that touch of physicality but his sides weren't cynical like Juan Carlos Lorenzo's teams.

Schoen - his sides played Total Football before Michels' Holland brought WC 74 to life. West Germany had a squad that was very fast and technical sides. He didn't ever play with a DM. His sides were that good at defending and attacking that there was no need. IMO, he made sure that his teams had that complete package and it enabled his players to do anything they like with the ball

Boloni86
28 Nov 2007, 08:31 AM
Have to give some mention to the 2 Hungarian legends Bela Guttman and Gusztav Sebes who revolutionized the game more than 50 years ago.