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Mick7184
19 Nov 2007, 10:13 AM
My brother-in-law works at the DOD...he was ready to kill someone, as was I

Seriously, without trying to ruffle feathers, it's to be expected from fan bases like that.

United_Caps_Fan
19 Nov 2007, 10:34 AM
I didn't enjoy getting nailed in the head with a bottle, especially when I had nothing to do with the taunting or what-not. I was more concerned about the DC season ticket holders behind me who seemed hell-bent on starting a fight.

The ticket office should have placed them somewhere else besides in the middle of the Revs section. Having 80-100 non-revs fans in the section while a group of Revs fans were placed across the field was incredibly moronic and a slap in the face to our supporters.

I also found it classless when the Sons of Ben seemed more interested in taunting and heckling us for the entirety of the 2nd half, which included calling us the Buffalo Bills.



HELL NO! Those DC fans are season ticket holders and had the option to buy thier seats for the playoffs and MLS CUP Before everyone else. There were more DC fans there than both Revs and Houston fans firstly, secondly, we have a m uch larger fan base than the Revs, so of course theres going to be a large presale for DC fans. I believe 30K tickets were sold, mostly to DC fans, before the playoffs even started. Further more, its OUR stadium. Move the REVS supports, and the SOB's elsewhere. I do think it was a bad move by DCUFO and MLS to infringe upon the DC STH's by putting the supporters clubs where they did.


Far as the SOB's go, well I dont like them and never have. Most of them are DC United TURNCOATS. They will NEVER be welcome in RFK as far as I am concerned, and I will NEVER respect anyone that is disloyal.

I dunno what all went on down there, but I could see it from up stairs, and it sure looked to me like the SOB's were the ones taunting and trying to start stuff. I had a run in with a couple of them too, and they TRIED to give us crap in our own house, but it didnt work. They cant say crap because they dont have a freakin team. It was funny a cop saw this nasty exchange too, and threatened the philly scumbags with ejection if he saw them hassling DC fans one more time.


As for the upside down American Flag thing, well, has anyone honestly stopped to think that perhaps it was just a mistake and they didnt know it was on upside down? Ive seen it happen before. Sometimes things just are a mistake, nothing more.

Fiero20
19 Nov 2007, 10:48 AM
Judging by that clip, it's a credit to Revs supporters that you still have all your teeth.

if i had had my way, they would be eating out of a straw right now.

i had seriously never hated someone (or some group) as much in my entire existance. maybe it was because of the magnitude of the match and their selfish reasons for being there, or maybe cuz they are just a bunch of complete cokcs, but seriously, the SOB's are the epitome of scum. the ugly stepchild. a vaginal discharge. Chicago fans look good compared to the gays in light blue. i hope they never have a team, and i wished them death upon the departure home.

honestly when they first showed up i was thinking "ok, these guys could be cool...", but that quickly changed.

i dont care how hostpitable and nice you are being on the threads, because all of your actions sunday prove that you are all a bunch of sad, sorry excuses for soccer fans, and pathetic souls of human beings. stop trying to put on a nice front for MLS.

may god have mercy on you, cuz i sure as hell never will.

FWIW the DC security was just as pathetic, and i wanted to punch one of them in the face as well. he was staring at me - eye contact mind you - right after i got hit in the head with a bottle, and did nothing....

Chowda
19 Nov 2007, 10:53 AM
As for the upside down American Flag thing, well, has anyone honestly stopped to think that perhaps it was just a mistake and they didnt know it was on upside down? Ive seen it happen before. Sometimes things just are a mistake, nothing more.
Well, there was also a Che flag.

It's all the rage to be unamerican in a similar fashion really, really cool hipsters used to wear designer Che shirts in 2004.

Someone should inform them the "knockout choking game" is what the cool kids like to do in their spare time. It would solve more than a few problems.

United_Caps_Fan
19 Nov 2007, 10:58 AM
I agree as I was hit with a navy streamer ball wrapped around a group of ice cubes. And that DC fan was WAY OVER THE LINE. He actually seemed to want a fight.

I posted on October 8th when we got our seats. http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12939986&postcount=12

You dont even have a freaking club, and you people are already going into places, causing problems, harassing people...etc. Pathetic. Stay home, or get tickets in a section that is away from other supporters groups. You really had no reason to be there, let alone to taunt any other fans, and I saw ALOT of it from your group, towards DC Fans, Towards Revs fans, and Towards houston fans as well. If any of you ever get beaten bloody at RFK, you will certainly have deserved it.

And you, my friend are a huge, disloyal TURNCOAT. What does that say about you? :rolleyes:

The Magpie
19 Nov 2007, 10:59 AM
i had spoken to a good half dozen revs fans during halftime, all of whom seemed very supportive of what the Sons of Ben are accomplishing in philadelphia...

I was probably one of those fans, and I am quite happy and supportive of the Sons of Ben in lobbying for a Philadelphia entry into MLS. That being said, I do take issue with those members (however large or small they may be) of the group who were throwing objects into the core group of Revolution supporters, showed support of Houston, etc. The shameless self-promotion was also a bit much to take at times, but then, that may be what it takes to further your efforts of getting a club.

For the record, I also noticed a number of Revolution supporters throwing objects into the group of SOB supporters in the waning seconds of and after the match, and that behavior, no matter the provocation, is equally unacceptable.

Fiero20
19 Nov 2007, 11:17 AM
I was probably one of those fans, and I am quite happy and supportive of the Sons of Ben in lobbying for a Philadelphia entry into MLS. That being said, I do take issue with those members (however large or small they may be) of the group who were throwing objects into the core group of Revolution supporters, showed support of Houston, etc. The shameless self-promotion was also a bit much to take at times, but then, that may be what it takes to further your efforts of getting a club.

For the record, I also noticed a number of Revolution supporters throwing objects into the group of SOB supporters in the waning seconds of and after the match, and that behavior, no matter the provocation, is equally unacceptable.


first of e, i like you, and you are a great guy.

but you sound like a politician.

if you were near the battlefield instead of hiding in the front rows you would understand why they should never get a team, and why Revs supporters were throwing stuff at them.

im sick of people bending over for other fans and letting them fcuk us in the arse. for the love of jesus grow a pair and tell them that its unacceptable.

Onionsack
19 Nov 2007, 11:18 AM
rivalry is one thing, but when they are throwing plastic bottles at us and being a second away from a fight, that is something i cannot support.

If NY was in the final and those people did that in our section, there would have been many bloody Philly fans. No, i am not puffing, there seriously would have been a lot of Philly fans going to the hospital.

You got lucky that Revs fans are a cordial lot, if you would have done that with us, or DC...... or any other supporter group that isnt going to take shit, you'd have a few members collecting disability for the rest of their life.

celt1997
19 Nov 2007, 11:23 AM
If NY was in the final and those people did that in our section, there would have been many bloody Philly fans. No, i am not puffing, there seriously would have been a lot of Philly fans going to the hospital.

You got lucky that Revs fans are a cordial lot, if you would have done that with us, or DC...... or any other supporter group that isnt going to take shit, you'd have a few members collecting disability for the rest of their life.

However the point that's being missed here is that the SoB's were not the ones who threw the bottles first. Perhaps there were some who retaliated, but there were a larger number of Revs fans who threw the bottles into the SoB's group before anything (if anything) came out of the SoB's.

It was all in response to a chant...a simple little chant that the Revs fans apparently couldn't handle.

It would've been much easier to come back at us with a, "You don't have a team," or other similarly themed song, but instead it was middle fingers and full bottles of soda and water.

brduvel
19 Nov 2007, 11:29 AM
My question is: What the hell were Rev's supporters doing with bottles of soda and water? :eek:

Did RFK run out of beer?

Onionsack
19 Nov 2007, 11:30 AM
However the point that's being missed here is that the SoB's were not the ones who threw the bottles first. Perhaps there were some who retaliated, but there were a larger number of Revs fans who threw the bottles into the SoB's group before anything (if anything) came out of the SoB's.

It was all in response to a chant...a simple little chant that the Revs fans apparently couldn't handle.

It would've been much easier to come back at us with a, "You don't have a team," or other similarly themed song, but instead it was middle fingers and full bottles of soda and water.

Doesn't matter, you are in the Revs area rooting against them and trying to fuk up their day with your self promotion. You presence alone and your outward stance against the Revs is reason enough to get your ass handed to you.

Like i said, your lucky Revs fans are good people, if you would have done that in the middle of ESC, Barra Brava, or El Batalion you would have got a hell of a lot more than some middle fingers and plastic bottles thrown your way.

I saw it from the other side of the stadium, i was amazed that Revs fans didn't jump you from all sides.

RedRevs
19 Nov 2007, 11:31 AM
My question is: What the hell were Rev's supporters doing with bottles of soda and water? :eek:

Did RFK run out of beer?

With no working atm's at that shithole of a stadium we weren't at liberty to go wasting our beer willy-nilly.

wolfp10
19 Nov 2007, 11:31 AM
However the point that's being missed here is that the SoB's were not the ones who threw the bottles first. Perhaps there were some who retaliated, but there were a larger number of Revs fans who threw the bottles into the SoB's group before anything (if anything) came out of the SoB's.

It was all in response to a chant...a simple little chant that the Revs fans apparently couldn't handle.

It would've been much easier to come back at us with a, "You don't have a team," or other similarly themed song, but instead it was middle fingers and full bottles of soda and water.

It just wasn't a simple chant; it was 90 minutes of heckling and antagonizing. By the end of the game it seemed the SoBs were more interested in cheering against the Revs than cheering for their own team or efforts.

Chowda
19 Nov 2007, 11:32 AM
If NY was in the final and those people did that in our section, there would have been many bloody Philly fans. No, i am not puffing, there seriously would have been a lot of Philly fans going to the hospital.

You got lucky that Revs fans are a cordial lot, if you would have done that with us, or DC...... or any other supporter group that isnt going to take shit, you'd have a few members collecting disability for the rest of their life.

Sure.:rolleyes:

revsfan44
19 Nov 2007, 11:32 AM
However the point that's being missed here is that the SoB's were not the ones who threw the bottles first. Perhaps there were some who retaliated, but there were a larger number of Revs fans who threw the bottles into the SoB's group before anything (if anything) came out of the SoB's.

It was all in response to a chant...a simple little chant that the Revs fans apparently couldn't handle.

It would've been much easier to come back at us with a, "You don't have a team," or other similarly themed song, but instead it was middle fingers and full bottles of soda and water.

it wasn't just the chant, it was the culmination of dealing with the bs of the situation. our team is playing the biggest game in the team's history, and u guys came in to lobby the mls, and that was not the time or place to make a statement to the mls. it is total bs that u guys were in the middle of our sea of navy and other rev fans were put across the gulf.

Fiero20
19 Nov 2007, 11:32 AM
It was all in response to a chant...a simple little chant that the Revs fans apparently couldn't handle.

it was much more than a chant, so save the bs.


like i said before, dont try to play it off like you are all a bunch of nice guys or that you were the victims on here. that is not true, nor is it going to fly.

The Magpie
19 Nov 2007, 11:37 AM
if you were near the battlefield instead of hiding in the front rows you would understand why they should never get a team, and why Revs supporters were throwing stuff at them.

I wasn't "hiding in the front rows," and to be honest, I didn't have much of a clue what was going on behind me in the "battlefield" as I was more focused on what was happening on the pitch; I genuinely didn't know what was going on until after the match when I saw a few people trying to restrain you, also seeing objects being thrown from both sides.

I can appreciate why Revolution supporters were throwing things, but I can still have a problem with that, much as I have a problem with the actions of SOB towards the Revolution supporters.

im sick of people bending over for other fans and letting them fcuk us in the arse. for the love of jesus grow a pair and tell them that its unacceptable.

I stated in my original post that I do take issue with their actions: throwing objects and provocations with intention to do more than provoke is under no circumstances, acceptable.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2308/2046574448_ec0a4029ca.jpg

This just sends the wrong message, IMHO. Maybe it works for SOB, but it doesn't fly with us.

The Magpie

jmsullivan
19 Nov 2007, 11:37 AM
I can certainly relate. I dispise unruly fans. :o

The league should institute a "no taunting rule", and ban all flags and banners so no one will be offended by non politically correctness. :rolleyes:

Come on, it's a championship match for crying out loud. There is always bantering back and forth. The players were hammering each other phyically during the match, but I know if they met in a pub next week, they would buy each other a beer.

It's an event, and a place where people can make their statements if they wish. Those who can't play should stay home. But most of all in the end, it's only a game and is meaningless.

Breath Innnnnnnnn, outtttttt. Now doesn't that feel better.

Onionsack
19 Nov 2007, 11:39 AM
Sure.:rolleyes:

FACT.

I know the mentality of my people, if SOB (philly of all places) sat right in the middle of our section and cheered against us and threw some bottles around, there would have been a full out riot in the stands. I would wager similar groups would have responded the same way.

celt1997
19 Nov 2007, 11:39 AM
it is total bs that u guys were in the middle of our sea of navy and other rev fans were put across the gulf.

This wasn't by our own design, however. The first week of October we were given our tickets. Our placement in the stadium should be taken up with somebody in a front office somewhere, not with us.

As to Fiero, I'd love to know what else there was beyond the chants and songs? We sure didn't throw anything at anyone first.

The more and more I think about, the more it seems you were just upset by our mere presence, and that, as I said, is something to be addressed elsewhere, as we sat in the seats we were given.