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thebigman
26 Nov 2007, 06:51 PM
r and w

one (or is it two?) word(s)

DEADLIFT!

deadlifting is godly untill it kills your back

it works everything, screw gay shrugs!

also shoulder press with dumbells

dont listen to case.............(he wears a du rag)

appleCORR7
26 Nov 2007, 06:53 PM
..... and has a terrible goatie!

appleCORR

thebigman
26 Nov 2007, 06:55 PM
on a side note, why do u write your name after every post?

Case
26 Nov 2007, 06:57 PM
*benches 1 1/2 times bodyweight*
whats that tbm? yea deadlift until ur anus prolapses....Deadlifting works lower lumbar, glutes and hammys, which'll tighten and shorten them and be uber counter-productive should u ever wanna sprint....

apps, HAD a gay goatee

Shrapnac
26 Nov 2007, 07:49 PM
on a side note, why do u write your name after every post?

Just in case you forgot who wrote the post?

appleCORR

vanity_soccer13
26 Nov 2007, 08:08 PM
http://www.leehayward.com/exercises/shoulders/index.htm


these are all a good start, R & W. you can throw in barbell shrugs to that. also, pull ups are good for back and shoulders.


aside from that.. today, my favorite player on my favorite football team, Sean Taylor of the Washington Redskins, was shot and airlifted from his home to the hospital. He's in critical condition, and there's a chance he suffered brain damage from blood loss, as the bullet hit the femoral artery in his leg. It's devastating to me. He's only 24 years old. :(

Dr.Phil
26 Nov 2007, 10:08 PM
I miss club soccer. High school soccer is so gay

red & wite army
27 Nov 2007, 02:44 AM
THanks to Case, COPA 17, tbm, and Vanity for the advice.

I'm 18 now...and the day I turned 18, my gym contract was terminated (long story), so I've got no access to weight equipment.

I've been using 7 kg dumbells in varying ways. At first they actually felt quite heavy after pumping them for a good few minutes, but now it's become tedious standing there, doing them, as it's not feeling like it's working much. 7 kg's really isn't much...so I'll prob really have to go up soon.

As for my shoulders...the front part is fine, but the back part just doesn't seem to grow or get anything. I don't know what to actually do for, because I don't want the fronts of my shoulders to be big, and the back part small!

Case
27 Nov 2007, 08:30 AM
R&W, yea that is quite light and most likely your "pumping fr a few minutes" suggests high volume which will increase endurance and muscle mass, but won't be giving you much strength or power. Now u 18 u shud be fine to lofe as an adult, and whilst super heavy may not be the best way im sure u can up the 7kg for presses and any multi-muscle lifts.
The best things for post.delts on that lee hayward site would be those bent over reverse flys, go light on these at first as there is a tendency to throw your lower back around under exertion that will be dangerous. Your ant.delts will get worked anytime u do any form of chest pressing or pushups, so the reverse of this action will help ur rear shoulders and lats/traps, which will give u a more balanced look. If u got a bench this can be achieved nice and symetrically, chest press and fly laying on back, then lay on your front and use the same motions in reverse lifting the weights off the floor, achieving rear flys and mid rows. Pull-ups would also be good, and im sure you can find something to do these on, a crossbar will even do!
THE most important 2 pieces of advice I can give are 1. find out which muscles do what and how they work, and 2. decide your goals. With this you can use this lovely interweb and figure out what exercises u need to do, HOW to do them, how often u'll need to train and what to do each time. WAAAAAY too many peeps have loose ideas of "wanting a bit of muscle but not too much" and go about this all wrong by copying the training of people with more specific fitness goals.

vanity_soccer13
27 Nov 2007, 11:01 AM
http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=32107

I don't think 'bummed' is quite the word I'm looking for to describe how I feel.

thebigman
27 Nov 2007, 12:20 PM
lol case, deadlifting rules! true comparison of strength instead of gimps saying 'how much u bench?'

i failed on a 170 kg deadlift (grip) but have comfortably deaded 150!

used to curl 20 kg in each hand too but changed program for weight loss

case, u weigh about 20 lbs then?

vanity_soccer13
27 Nov 2007, 12:46 PM
damn, 150 kg for deadlift? that's nuts. I do 145 lbs comfortably, which is about 65 kg I believe. no wonder you're thebigman

Case
27 Nov 2007, 01:45 PM
Yea that Sean Taylor ish is crazy, but I mean Darrent Williams was the first US homicide of 07 so it shows how messed up this world is....

yea tbm I gotta admit if I were a powerlifter Id lose bigstyle due to my lack of leg strength, I deadlifted 150kg myself but no technique and was sketchy as, and the days when I could jam a bball are long behind me now....

Actually liked that UK ish u linked, like a laaandun Rza! Still no patch on Word association tho....

Tony Dellbird
27 Nov 2007, 01:53 PM
FFS, when I was at uni, I NEVER left the house b4 0845, and that was when I was going to the gym before a 1000 lecture! I guess the fact I could cycle (Cambridge, we do that!) to class in 8 mins did help....

Haha you gayboys!

Case
27 Nov 2007, 06:45 PM
Yeah right, I should drive my Cosworth with 19s innit, then saaaaafend on fridays :D

Shrapnac
27 Nov 2007, 09:37 PM
Everytime Case posts I'm amazed that we both speak what is considered to be English...

Case
28 Nov 2007, 07:06 AM
I do have a propensity for employing vernacular in my colloquialism, symptomatic of the ontogenically forming lexicon of the information superhighway, but I digress, which I do given my tendency for circumlocution......

thebigman
28 Nov 2007, 09:03 AM
i wasnt boasting at the 150 btw, its relatively small compared to power lifters....the record is about 1015 lbs which is about 450 kg lol andy bolton! google him!

i dont deadlift no more as im on a weight lifting program designed with higher reps so its like a cardio workout

eg monday, super setting flat bench dumbell press and seated rows

12 reps bench at 22.5kg
12 reps seated rows 65 kg
12 reps bench at 22.5kg
12 reps seated rows 65 kg
12 reps bench at 22.5kg
12 reps seated rows 65 kg
12 reps bench at 22.5kg
12 reps seated rows 65 kg

limited rest between exercises

hard work

Case
28 Nov 2007, 09:11 AM
dude, u gonna break a sweat if u ain't careful!!!

Few peeps at my gym have ever seen me sweat, this scotland U19 rugby guy was like "you must be so fit coz I never see u break sweat", he was actually serious, doing step-ups with a 150kg bar across his neck as I sit there on my customary 5-10 mins between sets rest.....

Is that really the deadlift record? Surprises me as Mendelson benches more than that, albeit with one of those genius denim shirts "I can lift 2 tonnes if I just strap this engine-hoist round the bar"....

vanity_soccer13
28 Nov 2007, 11:13 AM
hmm, for me I started doing less weight and more reps. but, I'm way over 22.5kg for my bench press. I need to one of these days sit down with the school trainer and have a program set up for myself. I want to be more fit and toned rather than look like I drink a protein shake for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I hate putting on a shirt and not having it fit anymore