League rankings?

[mintone]

I hope the debate will be good.

As far as I am concerned there are 3-4 groups of teams, and every one else can be grouped togather.

Group #1: EPL, La Liga (Spain), Serie A and the Bundisliga (Germany).

Group #2: Holland, Portugal, France, Argentina, Brasil, Mexico.

Group #3: Belgium, USA, Denmark, Greece, Russia, Japan, Korea, Ukraine, Turkey, English championship.

I think the best teams in the first two groups make up the best in the world. The relegation Fighters in most of those leagues would make up the 2nd-3rd tier. or 4th in some cases.

If I had to put forth a ranking it would look like this:

#1 EPL/ La Liga
#3 Serie A (a VERY close second)
#4 German Bundesliga
#5 France
#6 Holland
#7 Portugal
#8 Argentina
#9 Mexico
#10 Brasil
#11 USA
#12 Turkey
#13 Japan
#14 Russia
#15 Greece

Obviously I don't get to see many games from most of those listed but from the Media:eek: I get this seems accurate to me.

What do you all think?

[Glavisted Big Soccer]

01. England
02. Spain
03. Italy
04. Germany
05. Brazil
06. Argentina
07. France
08. Holland
09. Mexico
10. Portugal
11. Russia
12. Turkey
13. Colombia
14. Greece
15. Ukraine
16. Belgium
17. Uruguay
18. Paraguay
19. United States
20. Scotland

[Grinners89]

01. England
02. Spain
03. Italy
04. Germany
05. Brazil
06. Argentina
07. France
08. Holland
09. Mexico
10. Portugal
11. Russia
12. Turkey
13. Colombia
14. Greece
15. Ukraine
16. Belgium
17. Uruguay
18. Paraguay
19. United States
20. Scotland

Scotland is definitely higher in this list
France is higher than Brasil and Argentina where players have heaps of time on the ball as players are very rarely closed down

[solost22]

Considering Celtic alone you would have to rank Scotland higher and not to be a home town fan but I'd say the MLS in the United States ranks higher than the leagues in Paraguay, Uraguay and arguably Belgium.

[Glavisted Big Soccer]

France is higher than Brasil and Argentina where players have heaps of time on the ball as players are very rarely closed down
That doesn't happen in the Brazilian neither Argentinan league. I think definitely those South American leagues are higher by technique and stronger teams than French.

I think too Scottish league has a good position there, couldn't be up over one of them in my opinion.

[gggg]

I'd put France in the first group, you sometimes get French teams doing well in Europe while near the relegation zone in the league whereas in Holland and definitely Portugal the teams from 5th down struggle in Europe.

[Glavisted Big Soccer]

and not to be a home town fan but I'd say the MLS in the United States ranks higher than the leagues in Paraguay, Uraguay and arguably Belgium.
This season I've could seen many games from the MLS by ESPN, and I think they're grown up, but don't have the level of Paraguayan or Uruguayan league yet, its football is low yet.

[mintone]

Oops forgot about Scotland. I'll put them somewhere between 6-12

[Grinners89]

I'd put France in the first group, you sometimes get French teams doing well in Europe while near the relegation zone in the league whereas in Holland and definitely Portugal the teams from 5th down struggle in Europe.

Just look at Marseille...they beat Liverpool AT ANFIELD...biggest shock so far

[tjbirdsfan]

You have got to be kidding me with the first two lists.
A reasonable response is....
1. England
2. Spain
3. Italy
4. France
5. Germany
6. Portugal
7. Brazil
8. Scotland
9. Argentina
10. USA
11. Holland
12. Turkey
13. Mexico
(And the rest Russia, Japan, Greece, Norway ect don't matter becasue nobody good plays for those clubs anyway) 99.9% of the best players play within those thirteen leagues).

England undoubtedly has the most talent; if there was a leauge championship and all the best players in the EPL played all the best players in the other leagues the EPL players would steam roll.

[Glavisted Big Soccer]

Portuguese over Brazilian, Scottish over Argentinan and MLS over Dutch and Mexican league?, that looks like a joke :D.

[sidis]

Loooking the Leaguea average:
01- England
02- Spain
03- Italy
04- Brazil
05- Germany
06- France
07- Mexico
08- Argentina
09- Portugal
10- Holland
11- Russia
12- Japan


Looking only for the top 4 teams:

01-England
02-Italy
03-Spain
04-Germany
05-France
06-Holland
07-Portugal
08-Brazil
09-Argentina
10-Mexico
11-Russia
12-Japan

[st mirren till i die]

Everyone knows that leagues outside Europe are worthless, here's the10 best imho.

1. England
2. Spain
3. Italy
4. Germany
5. France
6. Portugal
7. Scotland
8. Turkey
9. Russia
10. Norway

[solost22]

Everyone knows that leagues outside Europe are worthless, here's the10 best imho.

1. England
2. Spain
3. Italy
4. Germany
5. France
6. Portugal
7. Scotland
8. Turkey
9. Russia
10. Norway

Are you serious? You start off with a ridiculous comment and then completely leave out the Dutch League in favor of Norway and Russia, who by the way incase you weren't sure are also not in Europe.

[RichardL]

Are you serious? You start off with a ridiculous comment and then completely leave out the Dutch League in favor of Norway and Russia, who by the way incase you weren't sure are also not in Europe.Norway and Russia aren't in Europe?

[Pingudo]

My list:

#1 La Liga
#2 EPL
#3 Serie A
#4 Bundesliga
#5 France
#6 Portugal/Holland
#8 Brazil/Argentina/Mexico
#11 Turkey/Russia/Greece/Scotland

[willy_svw]

This discussion is kind of pointless anway...

[solost22]

Norway and Russia aren't in Europe?

I was going along the lines that Scandavaian countries don't include themselves with the Europeans typically.

[Antonio81]

Group 1 - EPL, Serie A, Primera Lìga

Group 2 - Ligue 1, Bundesliga 1, Argentine League, Liga Brasiliero

Group 3 - Eredivise 1, Portugese League, FMF(Mexican League,) Championship(Eng. 2nd,) Serie B, J-League

Group 4 - Turkish League, Russian League, Chilean League, Colombian League, Bundesliga 2, Segunda A(Spain 2nd,) Czech League, Greek League, MLS, K-League(SKorea,)

Group 5 - Swedish League, Danish League, Belgian League, Scottish League, Uruguayan League, Paraguayan League, Israeli League, Ukranian League, League 1(Eng. 3rd) Serie C, Spain Segunda B - Tercera, Austrian League

Group 6 - Norwegian League, A-League(Australia,) Primera A(Mex 2nd,) Argentine Second division, (former)Yugoslav league, Polish League, (CRL)Costa Rican League, Romanian League, Ligue 2(French 2nd,) Irish League, Chinese League

[ljubiana]

Re: League rankings?
Group 1 - EPL, Serie A, Primera Lìga

Group 2 - Ligue 1, Bundesliga 1, Argentine League, Liga Brasiliero

Group 3 - Eredivise 1, Portugese League, FMF(Mexican League,) Championship(Eng. 2nd,) Serie B, J-League

Group 4 - Turkish League, Russian League, Chilean League, Colombian League, Bundesliga 2, Segunda A(Spain 2nd,) Czech League, Greek League, MLS, K-League(SKorea,)

Group 5 - Swedish League, Danish League, Belgian League, Scottish League, Uruguayan League, Paraguayan League, Israeli League, Ukranian League, League 1(Eng. 3rd) Serie C, Spain Segunda B - Tercera, Austrian League

Group 6 - Norwegian League, A-League(Australia,) Primera A(Mex 2nd,) Argentine Second division, (former)Yugoslav league, Polish League, (CRL)Costa Rican League, Romanian League, Ligue 2(French 2nd,) Irish League, Chinese League

This is a decent list, except the romanian league is definately better than group six, and there is no way the irish league is as good as ligue 2 or the norwegian league; look at what rosenborg are doing in champions league, compared to irish sides that struggle with faroese and icelandic opposition. also, you forgot the swiss league, which probably belongs in group 5.

what about some of the arabian leagues like saudi arabia, uae and qatar. they seem to have some cash, how would people rate them?