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cleazer
25 Oct 2007, 12:54 PM
http://www.theroyalgazette.com/siftology.royalgazette/section.jsp?sectionId=70

Barnes, Mariner and Simoes vie for Bermuda football's top job (http://www.theroyalgazette.com/siftology.royalgazette/Article/article.jsp?articleId=7d7acb33003000e&sectionId=70)

Looks like Mariner in on the BFA's short list.


If this is old news, kill it or merge it.

Mick7184
25 Oct 2007, 02:46 PM
Am I wrong, or is the assistant Revs job better than the head job for Bermuda?

Sandon Mibut
25 Oct 2007, 03:01 PM
Not too familiar with the history of English football in Bermuda, are they...

Mariner made his England debut in March 1977 and went on to earn 35 caps and score the winner against Hungary that qualified his country for the 1982 World Cup finals after a 20-year absence from the tournament.

Let's see, 82 minus 20 means they didn't make the WC between 62 and 82. So what was all that jumping for joy in 66 about that all Brits still wax nostalgic for?

chillum
25 Oct 2007, 03:20 PM
Not too familiar with the history of English football in Bermuda, are they...



Let's see, 82 minus 20 means they didn't make the WC between 62 and 82. So what was all that jumping for joy in 66 about that all Brits still wax nostalgic for?

You might want to rephrase that to "the English".

The Scots, Irish and Welsh don't care quite so much.....

Chowda
25 Oct 2007, 03:29 PM
Am I wrong, or is the assistant Revs job better than the head job for Bermuda?

Well, he'd be more involved with development of the game there. It's also $125,000 (I think US according to the article). I'm curious if he even makes six figures with the Revs.

ZZZenga
25 Oct 2007, 03:33 PM
Khano Smith for Bermuda captain!

ngower
25 Oct 2007, 10:25 PM
I doubt he'd take the job, he has virtually no knowledge of Bermudans (I'd assume). I'm sure his knowledge is a bit higher than some, considering that he's been down there a few times, but I think he'd be way in over his head taking the job....and MLS is ten times better than Bermuda.

peabrainedidiot
26 Oct 2007, 08:16 AM
Tough call.
It's a head coaching job and one for a nat team. It would be a nice career move, but really, what can you do there? a low ranked carribean team.. how do you measure success? MLS may be more high profile and ultimately lead to better opportunities in the long run...

does it come with a beach house?:D

ngower
26 Oct 2007, 08:18 AM
The problem is he'd be managing a team with very little chance at making a World Cup. The US and Mexico are in, we know that much for sure. Odds are Costa Rica or Canada will make the 3rd slot, and the losing of that bunch will make the playoff spot against the Asian team. Look at Bennehaker, he managed T&T for a brief stint and moved on, I think Mariner will look at something like that and say it's not worth it. Not to mention, does he have family? I'm not sure how easily they'd want to get up and leave.

RevsSoccerFan
27 Oct 2007, 06:16 PM
I would hate to see Coach Mariner leave...for purely selfish reasons of course...he's been a big part of the Revs success here with Nicol and my favorite part of Meet the Revs is his "chalk talk" or whatever you call it...I could listen to him talk soccer all day...learned a lot from him...

That said, when you do well as an assistant and are part of a successful team, you get noticed and get considered for head coaching jobs. Some people are content being an assistant coach because they don't want the pressure that comes with being the head coach. Some people aspire to be a head coach. I don't know what Mariner's goals are for future coaching jobs. I think he deserves a look from clubs/teams. I'd love to have him stay with Nicol's coaching staff, but I certainly couldn't fault him if he were to leave for a head coaching job somewhere.

KATref
28 Oct 2007, 09:22 AM
I would hate to see Coach Mariner leave...for purely selfish reasons of course...he's been a big part of the Revs success here with Nicol and my favorite part of Meet the Revs is his "chalk talk" or whatever you call it...I could listen to him talk soccer all day...learned a lot from him...

That said, when you do well as an assistant and are part of a successful team, you get noticed and get considered for head coaching jobs. Some people are content being an assistant coach because they don't want the pressure that comes with being the head coach. Some people aspire to be a head coach. I don't know what Mariner's goals are for future coaching jobs. I think he deserves a look from clubs/teams. I'd love to have him stay with Nicol's coaching staff, but I certainly couldn't fault him if he were to leave for a head coaching job somewhere.

In an interview with Marcelo Balboa, Mariner said he was ready for the challenge of a head coaching job. He didn't say if he had one in mind though.

Soccer Doc
28 Oct 2007, 10:41 AM
In an interview with Marcelo Balboa, Mariner said he was ready for the challenge of a head coaching job. He didn't say if he had one in mind though.

With expansion teams coming into MLS there will be a number of top slots that need filling. His background and association with a winning coach like Nicol will stand him in solid candidate. Only question is: would doing a year or two in Bermuda increase or decrease his chances of getting a gig as an MLS head coach? Of course he could well get a call from a lower Div team in England.

My bet is he will stay put till he gets a MLS head coach position.

KATref
28 Oct 2007, 10:56 AM
With expansion teams coming into MLS there will be a number of top slots that need filling. His background and association with a winning coach like Nicol will stand him in solid candidate. Only question is: would doing a year or two in Bermuda increase or decrease his chances of getting a gig as an MLS head coach? Of course he could well get a call from a lower Div team in England.

My bet is he will stay put till he gets a MLS head coach position.

Maybe so, I certainly would like him to stay. It's hard to say if they contacted him out of interest OR he found out about the position and went for it. I would think the latter would indicate more than a passing interest. I don't want him coaching against our team in MLS.;)

idiot wind
28 Oct 2007, 11:03 AM
Am I wrong, or is the assistant Revs job better than the head job for Bermuda?

Have you ever been to Bermuda? Coaching wise Bermuda may be a dead end, but quality of life wise it has something going for it.

saabrian
28 Oct 2007, 12:02 PM
Am I wrong, or is the assistant Revs job better than the head job for Bermuda?

Much better. Bermuda has never even made the last four of the Carribbean Cup, so it's not like they're even going to qualify for the Gold Cup, let alone get anywhere near the WC.

The only advantage Bermuda has on the Revs job is the weather, obviously.

PM would be better off sticking with the Revs until an MLS or maybe League One or Championship job opens up.

owain
28 Oct 2007, 08:34 PM
Have you ever been to Bermuda? Coaching wise Bermuda may be a dead end, but quality of life wise it has something going for it.

Ok, if someone offered me a step-up promotion and a move to Bermuda in my chosen career, I think I'd take it.... It's Bermuda! ;)

Balerion
05 Nov 2007, 07:15 PM
Well, it looks like Keith Tucker, a Bermudian an ex-Howard coach, is going to get the job: Goff (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2007/11/bermuda_close_to_naming_coach.html)

Hed7181
05 Nov 2007, 07:21 PM
Well, it looks like Keith Tucker, a Bermudian an ex-Howard coach, is going to get the job: Goff (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2007/11/bermuda_close_to_naming_coach.html)

That's good news.

I feel like we go through this every off-season. One of these days, Mariner will move on. I just hope it's not soon.

ToMhIlL
06 Nov 2007, 01:29 PM
That's good news.

I feel like we go through this every off-season. One of these days, Mariner will move on. I just hope it's not soon.Well, there are open jobs right now in New York and Los Angeles.

Hmmmm, which would be less-bad, being the manager of a sorry-ass, pathetic, disfunctional, underachieving team with a couple of decent players surrounded by journeymen, has-beens and never weres, with an equally dillusonal management that is a "Flagship" franchise, or being the manager of a sorry-ass, pathetic, disfunctional, underachieving team with a couple of decent players surrounded by journeymen, has-beens and never weres, with an equally dillusonal management that is a "SuperClub?" :eek:

Hmmm, decisions, decisions

rkupp
07 Nov 2007, 12:16 PM
Well, there are open jobs right now in New York and Los Angeles.
I would think they'd be looking for more high-profile candidates than Mariner, but who knows.