Brazilian Media is totally ignoring the Gold Cup

[SoccerScout]

With Brazil sending the U23 team, the Brazilian media is barely noticing the Gold Cup. In the last few days the press there has mostly concentrated in Brazil's championship win in the World Volleyball League and on the National soccer championship. The Gold cup is getting little to no press.

[Ombak]

They tend to ignore the olympic team until the Olympics, no matter who is on it.

[MIGkiller]

Originally posted by Ombak
They tend to ignore the olympic team until the Olympics, no matter who is on it.

Well, they follow the Pre-olympics tournamet too. Without qualifying in the south-american pre-olympics tournament there are no Olympics. Remember that '92 fiasco?

[Northside Rovers]

Shocked.

I am shocked that the Brazilian media does not give the CONCACAF Gold Cup the recognition it so richly deserves.

I mean here we are talking about a team that has won 2 out of the last 3 World Cups, playing as a guest in a poorly regarded regions championship.

A championship where the host team plays before a crowd of maybe 5,000 against a team not recognized by FIFA.

A championship where teams are grouped in 3 and can play 2 games in 3 days and then not again for 5 days.

I am bewlidered. Maybe if the criminals and idiots that staff CONCACF could run a better tournament, more people would pay attention.

[guamster]

Originally posted by Northside Rovers
Shocked.

I am shocked that the Brazilian media does not give the CONCACAF Gold Cup the recognition it so richly deserves.

I mean here we are talking about a team that has won 2 out of the last 3 World Cups, playing as a guest in a poorly regarded regions championship.

A championship where the host team plays before a crowd of maybe 5,000 against a team not recognized by FIFA.

A championship where teams are grouped in 3 and can play 2 games in 3 days and then not again for 5 days.

I am bewlidered. Maybe if the criminals and idiots that staff CONCACF could run a better tournament, more people would pay attention.

Anti-soccer conspiracy in Brasil. How will the sport ever...

And with that, I reach the 200 posts mark. Should I celebrate or act like I have been here before. Ooops, too late.

:-)

[RevdUp]

Re: suggestion for future Gold Cup tourneys

July 18, 2003

Dear Mr. CONCACAF,

Please, in the future, try not to invite any more teams outside of the CONCACAF region.
They are not needed. It's more of an embarrassment than a boon to this tourney.

Thank you,

Revdup

[SoccerScout]

Is there ANY tournament that BS posters find "meaningful" other than the World Cup and EPL?

In my opinion if somebody went thru the trouble to organize it and teams accepted to be in it ALL efforts should be made to win it, otherwise dont go at all.

[Knave]

I blame ESPN.

[anderson]

Well, it's not exactly WC coverage, but the always-reliable Estadão site's had an article or two almost every day.

Just from Fri and Sat - and I'm leaving out the pieces that are mostly just about rumored transfers involving players on the U-23s and short blurbs with results:

Brasil joga pela vaga na Copa Ouro (http://www.estadao.com.br/esportes/noticias/2003/jul/19/10.htm), Sábado, 19 de julho de 2003 - 10h01.

Maturana testa Colômbia para Eliminatórias (http://www.estadao.com.br/esportes/noticias/2003/jul/18/190.htm), Sexta-feira, 18 de julho de 2003 - 19h03.

Parreira pede paciência com a Sub-23 (http://www.estadao.com.br/esportes/noticias/2003/jul/18/187.htm), Sexta-feira, 18 de julho de 2003 - 19h00.

Nilmar vira titular da seleção Sub-23 (http://www.estadao.com.br/esportes/noticias/2003/jul/18/82.htm), Sexta-feira, 18 de julho de 2003 - 13h51.

Paulo Almeida dá sorte contra colombianos (http://www.estadao.com.br/esportes/noticias/2003/jul/18/63.htm), Sexta-feira, 18 de julho de 2003 - 12h28.

And even an interesting, marginally-related piece in the Jornal da Tarde about big money in Mexico:

Ótimos salários. Sair do México para quê? (http://www.jt.estadao.com.br/editorias/2003/07/18/esp022.html), Sexta-feira, 18 de julho de 2003.

[trmbrasil]

Originally posted by SoccerScout
With Brazil sending the U23 team, the Brazilian media is barely noticing the Gold Cup. In the last few days the press there has mostly concentrated in Brazil's championship win in the World Volleyball League and on the National soccer championship. The Gold cup is getting little to no press.

And you are able to detect this media boycott from New Jersey??? Certainly it's not being treated as the greatest thing since sliced bread, but the coverage has been pretty good here in Brazil. All Brazil games are on live and free. ESPN Brasil is also carrying games other than Brazil's (unfortunately no US games yet). The CBF website is updated everytime Diego farts. The peanut gallery of regular pundits on the different networks are giving it fair discussion, too. To be honest it seems that paying customers at the stadiums are more absent than Brazilian media coverage.

As far as Volleyball goes, well...most people didn't tune into the Brazil x Mexico game until the second half, as the World Championship volleyball game was a little more exciting and understandably carried a little more meaning here. It is the second sport after all, and a world championship isn't chump change.

[chibchab]

I've never understood the 'no invitees' arguement in relation to the Gold Cup. To begin, Conmebol invites our teams to Copa America; it's only fair we offer them the same courtesy.

Second, replace Colombia and Sub-23 Brazil, in this instance, with who to raise the level of play?

[MasterShake29]

CONMEBOL invites teams because they only have 10 total, and have decided that a tourney with 3 groups of 4 is better than one with 2 groups of 5. But that's them.

CONCACAF meanwhile has 40 teams, so we don't need guests. And not having guests would open up 2 spots for us (and if you go to 16 teams there would even be more), which would likely raise the incentive for lower-tier teams to get better.

[pc4th]

on a related note, is the game on Wednesday U.S. vs. Brazil broadcast anywhere on the web? I don't have Galavision, but have Univision though.

[Benedict XVI]

Originally posted by MattBurlew
CONMEBOL invites teams because they only have 10 total, and have decided that a tourney with 3 groups of 4 is better than one with 2 groups of 5. But that's them.

CONCACAF meanwhile has 40 teams, so we don't need guests. And not having guests would open up 2 spots for us (and if you go to 16 teams there would even be more), which would likely raise the incentive for lower-tier teams to get better. Yeah, but we have at most 3 or 4 good teams. Everyone else either sucks or sucks legendarily.

Maybe they should have everybody in TFC try to qualify for one spot in a 4 team round robin with Mexico, USA, and Costa Rica.

[MikeLastort2]

Originally posted by Knave
I blame ESPN.

I blame Jim Rome and Frank Deford.

Oh, and Julie Foudy.

[Fanaddict]

If a country is not going to send its best players then they should not be invited. That is just an insult sending an under 23 team to a senior tournament even if it is Brazil.

[Kevin Etzel]

Originally posted by Fanaddict
If a country is not going to send its best players then they should not be invited. That is just an insult sending an under 23 team to a senior tournament even if it is Brazil.

I would rather have Brazil's U-23 in the tournament than the senior team from any of the other CONCACAF minnows.

Kevin

[Benedict XVI]

Originally posted by Fanaddict
If a country is not going to send its best players then they should not be invited. That is just an insult sending an under 23 team to a senior tournament even if it is Brazil. It's better that they send the U-23's, that way there's a chance they might not win.

[The Cadaver]

Originally posted by RevdUp



Please, in the future, try not to invite any more teams outside of the CONCACAF region.
They are not needed. It's more of an embarrassment than a boon to this tourney.



But Brazil HAS to be invited. Its a little known provision of Title 9.

[Brrca Fan redded]

Originally posted by trmbrasil
And you are able to detect this media boycott from New Jersey??? Certainly it's not being treated as the greatest thing since sliced bread, but the coverage has been pretty good here in Brazil. All Brazil games are on live and free. ESPN Brasil is also carrying games other than Brazil's (unfortunately no US games yet). The CBF website is updated everytime Diego farts. The peanut gallery of regular pundits on the different networks are giving it fair discussion, too. To be honest it seems that paying customers at the stadiums are more absent than Brazilian media coverage.

As far as Volleyball goes, well...most people didn't tune into the Brazil x Mexico game until the second half, as the World Championship volleyball game was a little more exciting and understandably carried a little more meaning here. It is the second sport after all, and a world championship isn't chump change. How can I get ESPN Brasil?.