How strong is current German team?

[bltleo]

Topic for discussion:

How dangerous is German team? Do you think current German team is one of the strongest in our history?

How dangerous will be German team in next European cup if you compare it with european cups in the past.

If we look at the history of the European world cups.
German team was especially strong in 1972 and 1990.

Would you say that current German team has the same strenght as in 1972 and 1990?

What is your opinon?

P.S DF, moderators..can you make better title name? DANKE!!!..

[Dead Fingers]

I think the title is fine blt. And you are more specific with your questions with your post. It will do fine. :)

[bltleo]

I think the title is fine blt. And you are more specific with your questions with your post. It will do fine. :)

i don´t like start new threads...i´m not pretty good at it....it is my first try:)

[bltleo]

i try to specify my question.

which all time German 11 was the best?

my favorite German 11:
German team 1972 and 1974- with excellent Gerd Müller, Beckenbauer, netzer, Overath, Sepp Maier and Co.- big personalities

German team 1990 (when we won world cup)....Beckenbauer said that time
that " Wir sind auf Jahre hinaus unschlagbar"...we are for years unbeatable
Duo Klinsmann/Völler - will probably never forget..or Lothar Matthäus...Andreas
Brehme....

and my next favorite is Germany 2006 and now, current German team...I think in Euro 2008 we will be the strongest nation...

[nekkibasara]

I would list the top German sides in order of quality as:
1. EC1972
2. WC1974
3. EC1980
4. WC1990
5. EC2008

[Borussia]

i don´t like start new threads...i´m not pretty good at it....it is my first try:)

Glückwunsch! ;)

About your question: The fact that we managed to defeat decent opponents even with our "B team" lately, shows the strength of our current national team! I think we have never had more talented players in our history before...

This young squad still has to learn and improve, but I'm confident that we'll be able to maintain our offensive style & stability for the next years! Great job done by Klinsi & Jogi, the way to form a new team composed of experienced and young & talented players rescued the German football after the "disaster" from 2004!

The DFB & the BL clubs learned their lesson and improved the youth work during the last 3 years ... and now we can reap the fruit of this labour! I think that everybody agrees with me when I say that we have waited for this team & football style since 1990! That's the main reason for the current "hype" around these guys.


I think in Euro 2008 we will be the strongest nation...

Mirka, I know about your enthusiasm and patriotism (what isn't a bad feature, but some kind of naivity sometimes) ... however, please don't forget that France & Italy finished the WC 2006 ahead of us and that there are a couple of other strong football nations in Europe.

The Euro 2008 will prove whether we are really as strong as the period after the WC 2006 is suggesting. How Jogi Löw mentioned rightly, we still have to learn and improve...

[Alex_K]

i don´t like start new threads...i´m not pretty good at it....it is my first try:)

Actually it's your 94th thread :D.

[Borussia]

I would list the top German sides in order of quality as:
1. EC1972
2. WC1974
3. EC1980
4. WC1990
5. EC2008

Are you Confucius? :eek:;) Let's take the WC 2006 first...

[nekkibasara]

Are you Confucius? :eek:;) Let's take the WC 2006 first...

I guess I should have said the EC2008 qualifiers team

[Borussia]

Ok, that sounds better. ;)

[KumarsS]

I think, along with Brazil, we are the top team in the world right now and indisputably the strongest side in Europe. Our overall depth is unmatched in Europe and rivals Brazil and Argentina, and our top performers (Klose, Lahm, Frings, Schneider, Ballack) are truly world-class.

Plus, unlike France, Germany truly plays as one free-flowing, cohesive unit, and unlike Italy, watching Germany is preferable to gauging one's eyes out.

[squidward123]

Glückwunsch! ;)

About your question: The fact that we managed to defeat decent opponents even with our "B team" lately, shows the strength of our current national team! I think we have never had more talented players in our history before...


Wow, No way. Mid 60s and early 70s brought out a more talented, and more depth in a generation.

Mid 70s and then early 80s did the same.

This one is 3rd equal with mid 80s and early 90s.

Mid 90s and early 2000s just weren't there :D


Mirka, I know about your enthusiasm and patriotism (what isn't a bad feature, but some kind of naivity sometimes) ... however, please don't forget that France & Italy finished the WC 2006 ahead of us and that there are a couple of other strong football nations in Europe.


I think Italy are ahead of us until we beat them and win the Euros.

France are equal at best.

The others there's nothing to worry too much about.

Mind you all of these teams have been quite ordinary in form compared to Germany since the WC (and beginning of WC if you exclude Italy and France).

[squidward123]

I think, along with Brazil, we are the top team in the world right now and indisputably the strongest side in Europe.

Brazil? Na, Italy.


Plus, unlike France, Germany truly plays as one free-flowing, cohesive unit, and unlike Italy, watching Germany is preferable to gauging one's eyes out.

Italy played very nice football at the WC. I haven't watched them since but I reckon they're similar?

[squidward123]

I would list the top German sides in order of quality as:
1. EC1972
2. WC1974
3. EC1980
4. WC1990
5. EC2008

Which is the best team?

Well, I know about teams since 1966 so...

1. 1972
2. 1970 Gerd Mueller rates this one the best and IMO would have been a 50/50 final with Brazil had they not been robbed in the semis
3. 1974
4. 1980
5. 1990
6. 1966
7. 1976
8. 1996 with injured players available, otherwise move down a spot
9. 2006
10. 1982

Which is the most stylish?

1. 1972
2. 1970
3. 1974 If you count only last 4 games ;)
4. 1966
5. 1980
6. 1990
7. 2006
8. 1976
9. 1996 with injured players available, could have been higher
10. 1992

Where does the predicted Euro 2008 team stand? I would say at NO. 6 in List 1, and NO. 4 in List 2.

[KumarsS]

Brazil? Na, Italy.



Italy played very nice football at the WC. I haven't watched them since but I reckon they're similar?

They're a very defensive, knock-the-ball-around, uninspired unit these days. The game against France was absolutely tragic. Though I found them insufferable even during the World Cup.

["Eisenfuß" Eilts]

Italy played very nice football at the WC. I haven't watched them since but I reckon they're similar?


Italy plays catenacio as they always did at hard times,
because currently they just suck.
Thay can thank god, that the mafia has the money to bribe the referees:
They are sh*t and the Italian players lick the t*** of they moms
until they are 30, so come on, this should be a deserved champion. :rolleyes:

They won the WC with paying the refs and they also do to qualification for the EC.
Scotland and France are the best teams in their group, Italy has only a chance because of the mafia, like AC Milan last year, who only took part, because nobody in Italy has the eggs to stand up against Berlusconi and the other scum.

They destroyed football last year and the hijos de p*tas will also do this time,
because of Blatter and the other sperm eating scum of the FIFA and in the UEFA.
like his whore Platini in charge of the UEFA.

btw:
I advice you to watch a documentation of FIFA, that was yesterday
boadcasted in German tv, this is not the sport anymore, that we love,
it´s a business of dick licking scum like Blatter, who piss about real fans.
:mad:

(it was time to say this, ban me if you want from the forum, it was just time to
say what i think about football, which is no sport anymore. Gobal investiors
and criminal "companies" control it and give a f*** about the sport.)

[kontrol-ball-Germany]

I know your disappointed but imo its our fault for conceding the 2 goals in the last 90 seconds, if anything we should be happy that this above average German side which did not have the experience and all round talent of the Italian side could play them equally pound for pound. (Played well in the semi even without on form pivotal Frings, who got banned after the Italian press aired those pictures).

The Italians had their best game of the tournament and played excellent, also Germany played without a traditional strong German side and still arguably played better attacking football and scored more goals in WC06 then Italy and not to mention survived a much harder route. The Italians waited and used their tact and experience to win and got through to the final, in terms of depth and talent Italy had it in reserves.

However the match was ours to throw away considering Germany was 90 seconds away from a penalty shoot out where they have 100% success at WC. Italy had possession deep in Germany's half and let an unmarked Italian player with SPACE stand in the box with a clear passage for him to receive the ball with just 90 seconds to go, thats 101 basics that should of been defended. As much as i like the 2006 side and attacking philosophy, i have to ask would one of our more average sides in the past like the 2002 side concede 2 goals in the last 90 seconds.

I would say that instead of saying that the 2006 side was one of our better sides i would argue that Germany has shown that even with some inexperienced players who have never been to a world cup or played regularly in the champions league we can still get far and challenge the big teams. I can't remember when Italy fielded an average side and got far, they always had talented experienced players playing regular Champions league with big clubs and so on. However even Italy has been less consistent than Germany going out in early rounds on numerous times in the past. If anything its an accolade to Germany to still stay consistent even if they don't have one of their traditional strong line ups.

I was shocked to see Germany play so well against a very talented Italian team who could bring on the likes of Del Piero as a sub, there’s no shame losing to a strong Italian team with our above average side. The question of how strong the current German team is compared to other German sides is a difficult one as reaching a semi final is considered an average achievement for Germany as nearly most of our teams get far whether it be a unrecognizable 2002 team or a Beckenbauer side.

[+Gooner+]

I will never forgive Schweinsteiger for not marking his man seconds before Italy scored. He is so ********ing lazy sometimes and he is still doing it. :mad:

I hope they mentioned that on these dvds the players got that list all the things they still need to work on.

Anyway, if Loew can continue the improvement that this team has made in just a few months until the EM this German side will be brilliant. The skill is there, the spirit and the talent, he just needs to handle that last bit of naivity and lack of experience.

I think we are up there with Italy. I have no doubt we would have won the penalties against Italy and we had every chance to beat France. Italy, not because they play as well as we do because they don't, but they have more experience and they are extremely effective. When needed they win and if it is by playing boring defensive football for 119 minutes, wait for mistakes like Schweinsteiger's and then steamroll the opponent. I don't know why but this works for Italian football almost everytime. Other teams just keep falling for it and never learn.

[MicFW]

I've got the funny impression that we are playing way better football than Italy at the moment (or even for a couple of months now), but I'm not really sure we'd beat them in a competitive match. Their style of playing football somehow doesn't fit our game, and they have the nasty habit of scoring crucial goals when it's most inconvenient.

[Borussia]

Italy plays catenacio as they always did at hard times,
because currently they just suck.
Thay can thank god, that the mafia has the money to bribe the referees:
They are sh*t and the Italian players lick the t*** of they moms
until they are 30, so come on, this should be a deserved champion. :rolleyes:

They won the WC with paying the refs and they also do to qualification for the EC.
Scotland and France are the best teams in their group, Italy has only a chance because of the mafia, like AC Milan last year, who only took part, because nobody in Italy has the eggs to stand up against Berlusconi and the other scum.

They destroyed football last year and the hijos de p*tas will also do this time,
because of Blatter and the other sperm eating scum of the FIFA and in the UEFA.
like his whore Platini in charge of the UEFA.




Hey Eisenfuß, how drunk have you been last night when writing this posting? :eek: ;)

C'mon, don't be a sore loser ... just cause they kicked us out in the semi final and due to the Frings story. I can't see any evidence for your accusations.

Btw: Italy did never play "Catenaccio" under Marcelo Lippi!


PS: Let's follow the topic of this thread and talk about the German national team (and not about other squads)!


Italy, not because they play as well as we do because they don't, but they have more experience and they are extremely effective. When needed they win and if it is by playing boring defensive football for 119 minutes, wait for mistakes like Schweinsteiger's and then steamroll the opponent. I don't know why but this works for Italian football almost everytime. Other teams just keep falling for it and never learn.

If you refer to the WC 2006 semi final, you must have seen another game than I did...

Btw: Our national team wasn't really well-known for playing attractive attacking football in the 80s, 90s and until 2006 either. You can absolutely compare our former style (strong defence, high efficiency etc. ) with that of the Italians.