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MrPaisa
03 Oct 2007, 02:15 PM
Que triste:

Martín García pide la titular en Necaxa
10/3/2007
http://www.futbolred.com/images/necaxaceletv.jpg El jugador colombiano se mostró inconforme con su situación actual en el club mexicano, y aseguró que por su trabajo y trayectoria, merece ser titular en el equipo que dirige Hans Westerhof.

“Yo creo que puedo ser titular, no entrar cinco, 10 o 20 minutos, que creo que no es lo mismo. Ser titular es lo que quiero y es para lo que estoy trabajando, porque no quiero irme de México fracasado”, aseguró García a la prensa local.

Martín García afirmó que “sería una mentira si digo que estoy contento. Estoy trabajando, esperando la oportunidad, ojalá y llegue rápido porque la verdad no me siento muy a gusto con esta situación”.

El colombiano aseguró que las principales razones para quedarse en Necaxa han sido su familia y el apoyo que ha recibido por parte de Hugo Rodallega. “En los lugares que he ido a jugar, mi estadística lo dice, he salido goleador, y si no me he ido de aquí es por el apoyo de mi familia, de Hugo Rodallega y de los promotores que me trajeron a México”, concluyó.

Martín García llegó a Necaxa proveniente de Vasco da Gamma, de Brasil, donde también militó en Sao Caetano. En Colombia, jugó en América, Santa Fe, Cortuluá, Envigado, Centauros y Millonarios.

crzdcolombian
21 Oct 2007, 06:46 PM
Despedido García
Oct 21 de 2007
El delantero colombiano Martín García fue despedido del Necaxa de México tras intentar agredir al presidente del club, Javier Pérez, cuando fue recriminado por su actuación en la última derrota del equipo, informó el directivo.

Ese señor (Javier Pérez) estaba borracho y vino a irrespetarme, me insultó y yo no acepté que me tratara así que hice lo que hice. Si me tengo que ir me voy, no tengo ningún problema, comentó García a Carrusel Deportivo de Caracol.
García "cometió un acto de agresión en contra de mi persona, por lo cual, por su irresponsabilidad para con sus compañeros, cuerpo técnico y directiva, el señor a partir de este momento esta separado del plantel" , afirmó Pérez en rueda de prensa.

El presidente del equipo de Aguascalientes (noroeste) explicó que el incidente tuvo lugar cuando tras la derrota como local por 4-2 ante el Atlas en la liga mexicana, "se le pidió que pidiera una disculpa a sus compañeros" por haber sido expulsado en el minuto 19 cuando ganaban por 1-0.

"Intentó agredirme, pero varios de sus compañeros lo detuvieron. Ya es la segunda vez que le pasa y el señor se la pasa más tiempo expulsado y en la banca. No vino a hacer su trabajo, y no estamos para mantener vagos, está cesado", relató.

García llegó en agosto al Necaxa procedente del Vasco da Gama y desde entonces ha jugado 142 minutos en el torneo Apertura-2007, en los que no ha anotado ningún gol.

La expulsión del partido ante el Atlas, el primero en el que jugaba como titular, es la segunda tras la que sufrió en la cuarta jornada ante el Cruz Azul.

El Necaxa se encuentra en la decimocuarta posición (entre 18 equipos) en la tabla general del torneo con tres partidos ganados y cinco empatados en las 13 jornadas que se llevan disputadas.

wow, he really should never have left brasil.... dont get why he did and doesnt seem like a very disciplined dude :( , seemed like a good prospect when he was at Vasco tho

ryu79
21 Oct 2007, 06:53 PM
This kid is an embarrassment. Chitiva, Calero, Mosquera, Rey and Co. have worked too hard to establish a reputation of Colombian professionalism in Mexico to have this idiot try to fight a club official.

pepinointer
21 Oct 2007, 06:55 PM
q tipo tan agresivo

GavoCol
21 Oct 2007, 07:04 PM
i k opasa si es vdd lo k dice Garcia?, el tipo estaba borracho i le insulto, pudo haber sido algo duro para Garcia y recciono asi

No lo justifico, pero algo tubo que haber pasado

crzdcolombian
21 Oct 2007, 07:09 PM
prob said some shit about him being black or something like that and he snapped

its not the 1st time something like that has happened

and if u ever bin to the univision forums all they ever say about us and our nt is taht we are an african team or that we are a bunch of monkeys so yea .... I would prob lose it too... not that it makes it right

ryu79
21 Oct 2007, 07:14 PM
i k opasa si es vdd lo k dice Garcia?, el tipo estaba borracho i le insulto, pudo haber sido algo duro para Garcia y recciono asi

No lo justifico, pero algo tubo que haber pasado

Y si es verdad? Si el patron de tu empresa se te asoma borracho ha hablarte babosadas le pegas? Que falta de verguenza y profesionalismo de este muchacho.

Por favor, dejemos el machismo al lado y miremos las cosas con seriedad - un trabajador jamas tiene derecho a agredir a un companero de trabajo y menos su jefe.

ryu79
21 Oct 2007, 07:22 PM
prob said some shit about him being black or something like that and he snapped

its not the 1st time something like that has happened

and if u ever bin to the univision forums all they ever say about us and our nt is taht we are an african team or that we are a bunch of monkeys so yea .... I would prob lose it too... not that it makes it right

Why would you immediately jump to the conclusion that Garcia was racially insulted? Garcia didn't even assert this! You'd suspect that the chairman of a team would be a little more mature than some trolls on a Univision forum.

Much more likely: the Necaxa guy probably went over to tell Garcia what an idiot he is for blowing this game when they finally gave him a start after he went crying to the media about sitting on the bench - and Garcia (who gets red carded at an alarming rate considering how little he's played) probably lost his head.

Either way: what foreign team is going to want to sign a kid thats tried to assault a team chairman on two occasions and was red carded on more occasions than he started! He's done himself a huge disservice and may have wrecked his international career, and for what?

MrPaisa
24 Oct 2007, 11:10 AM
Guys, I would have done the same thing if Garcia is telling the truth and to eb honest, I believe him....

García se defiende y dice que el presidente del Necaxa lo insultó



Colombia.com (23/Oct/2007): El delantero colombiano Martín García, ex jugador del Vasco da Gama brasileño y del Millonarios de su país, reconoció que agredió al presidente del club Necaxa del fútbol mexicano pero dijo que fue una reacción a los insultos que éste le lanzó en los vestuarios.

"No me gustó lo que me dijo; y sí, me fui encima de él porque soy un jugador que se ha dado a respetar", dijo García a una emisora radial de Colombia reproducida por la emisora mexicana Estadio W y su vez por el diario mexicano Récord.

El delantero 'cafetero' afirmó ser un jugador que nunca ha tenido conflictos en sus anteriores equipos y sostuvo que no está de acuerdo con las afirmaciones hechas a la prensa por el presidente del club, Javier Pérez Teuffer, sobre el incidente.

El sábado pasado, el delantero colombiano fue expulsado por una falta que fue calificada como agresión al contrario en el partido que el Necaxa perdió 2-4 con el Atlas, en la decimotercera jornada del torneo mexicano.

Al final del partido, Pérez Teuffer entró al vestuario del Necaxa y le exigió al jugador que se disculpara con sus compañeros por la expulsión, pero García ha dicho a la prensa mexicana que el dirigente le lanzó insultos contra su madre.

El jugador aseguró que agredió a Pérez Teuffer porque éste le lanzó insultos sobre su madre y sostuvo que no está arrepentido y que volvería a hacerlo.

"Vean mis antecedentes. No he tenido conflictos con nadie, ni compañeros ni directivos y no estoy de acuerdo con lo que declaró a la prensa porque nadie me recogió de Colombia ni he estado pasando hambre en Brasil", dijo el jugador al diario mexicano.

García ha sido separado oficialmente del plantel del Necaxa por esta situación y la directiva decidió que se entrenará con el equipo de ascenso del Necaxa. EFE.

MrPaisa
24 Oct 2007, 11:14 AM
And as a response to the Garcia being black thing, I can easily see a black player having a tough time in Mexico. I know alot of Mexicans, my gf is from el D.F. and although many are amazing and humble people, their lack of experience with people of African descent can cause them to be blatantly racist sometimes. I am not saying Colombians are perfect, we have a ton of racial faults in our country, but being black in Mexico is a completely different thing.

I feel for Garcia here. Think about it, he was playing in Vasco, he was doing well. He then gets offered a good sum in Mexico, he goes there, and he gets benched. He has few friends except for Rodallega....then this guy insults his mother and who knows what else and under stress, depression he tries to hit him....trust me I've been in similar situations....

crzdcolombian
24 Oct 2007, 12:48 PM
i am not black i am tan but um i go to an almost all white school and when ur around people that arent around brown people and are the only brown person around and people say dumb shit to u it pisses u off . I know alot of u might not have felt racism but its out there. I just made a point in something that could have happened because it has come up before in mexico and argentina about black players

ryu79
24 Oct 2007, 06:18 PM
And as a response to the Garcia being black thing, I can easily see a black player having a tough time in Mexico. I know alot of Mexicans, my gf is from el D.F. and although many are amazing and humble people, their lack of experience with people of African descent can cause them to be blatantly racist sometimes. I am not saying Colombians are perfect, we have a ton of racial faults in our country, but being black in Mexico is a completely different thing.

I feel for Garcia here. Think about it, he was playing in Vasco, he was doing well. He then gets offered a good sum in Mexico, he goes there, and he gets benched. He has few friends except for Rodallega....then this guy insults his mother and who knows what else and under stress, depression he tries to hit him....trust me I've been in similar situations....

Rubbish. You wouldn't do the same thing. No one hits their boss, gets themselves fired, and risks their whole career over a few heated words unless they have no sense and I'd like to think you do.

You guys have to realize that you've created a racial element to this conflict where it didn't exist. Garcia has said that this guy insulted his mom - what is he 10 that a "you're momma" comment gets him into this kind of trouble?

He's a professional athlete and should know better than to lash out at the press or a director over something ridiculous that gets said to him - especially after choking AGAIN after crying about his benching.

ryu79
24 Oct 2007, 06:21 PM
i am not black i am tan but um i go to an almost all white school and when ur around people that arent around brown people and are the only brown person around and people say dumb shit to u it pisses u off . I know alot of u might not have felt racism but its out there. I just made a point in something that could have happened because it has come up before in mexico and argentina about black players

Dude. What are you talking about? OBVIOUSLY RACISM IS ALL AROUND US AND IT SUCKS - but

a) This moron flying off the wire over a drunken guys comments only reinforces stereotypes.

b) Garcia hasn't even stated that this was racially motivated.

Just because you sometimes feel racism towards yourself doesn't justify projecting this onto Garcia as an excuse for his behavior in this discussion. It's a strong accusation that shouldn't get thrown around.

minus
24 Oct 2007, 06:48 PM
Dude. What are you talking about? OBVIOUSLY RACISM IS ALL AROUND US AND IT SUCKS - but

a) This moron flying off the wire over a drunken guys comments only reinforces stereotypes.

b) Garcia hasn't even stated that this was racially motivated.

Just because you sometimes feel racism towards yourself doesn't justify projecting this onto Garcia as an excuse for his behavior in this discussion. It's a strong accusation that shouldn't get thrown around.

You can't stand in someone else is shoes. I'm not trying to justify Garcia's actions but we don't what was said to him. It was like Zidane reaction at the world cup. Who knows how bad Garcia was insulted by this man or perhaps it was nothing out of ordinary but the bottom line we're talking about a drunken man here. We all know how we get when we're drunk...

ryu79
24 Oct 2007, 06:55 PM
You can't stand in someone else is shoes. I'm not trying to justify Garcia's actions but we don't what was said to him. It was like Zidane reaction at the world cup. Who knows how bad Garcia was insulted by this man or perhaps it was nothing out of ordinary but the bottom line we're talking about a drunken man here. We all know how we get when we're drunk...

OK, then we categorically disagree because I also think Zidane was a moron.

Garcia should know better. What better way to justify the drunk guys comments than to respond as he did and make an ass of himself?

I'm quite surprised by CRAZY's comments considering that he has often (and I have agreed with him) noted the contributions of the JPA, IRC and Yepes' generation in establishing the reputation of Colombian players' professionalism.

I abhor the stereotype (which btw, I find quite racist) that Colombians are hot heads - so it especially pisses me off to see one that gets paid tons of money act like a 'hot head' and frustrates me that other Colombians would say "well, what can you do, the other guy was drunk, we know how that is" - I don't give a damn if the guy was drunk, YOU DON'T HIT PEOPLE AT WORK except in self defense and Garcia was the initiator of violence here. This guy just exacerbated the very racist stigma that Crazy and Paisita are complaining about and thats what pisses me off.

minus
24 Oct 2007, 07:02 PM
OK, then we categorically disagree because I also think Zidane was a moron.

Garcia should know better. What better way to justify the drunk guys comments than to respond as he did and make an ass of himself?

I'm quite surprised by CRAZY's comments considering that he has often (and I have agreed with him) noted the contributions of the JPA, IRC and Yepes' generation in establishing the reputation of Colombian players' professionalism.

I abhor the stereotype (which btw, I find quite racist) that Colombians are hot heads - so it especially pisses me off to see one that gets paid tons of money act like a 'hot head' and frustrates me that other Colombians would say "well, what can you do, the other guy was drunk, we know how that is" - I don't give a damn if the guy was drunk, YOU DON'T HIT PEOPLE AT WORK except in self defense and Garcia was the initiator of violence here. This guy just exacerbated the very racist stigma that Crazy and Paisita are complaining about and thats what pisses me off.

It all depends on the individual. I treat people with respect and expect the same treatment. Someone provokes me to a degree that I'm such that I feel is necessary to hit someone; I'll probably would hit the person.

ryu79
24 Oct 2007, 07:18 PM
It all depends on the individual. I treat people with respect and expect the same treatment. Someone provokes me to a degree that I'm such that I feel is necessary to hit someone; I'll probably would hit the person.

Well then, for your sake, I hope you never end up in a situation like Garcia, because I'd like for you and everyone on this forum to have a livelihood and the best they can for themselves.

colombo
24 Oct 2007, 07:27 PM
Rubbish. You wouldn't do the same thing. No one hits their boss, gets themselves fired, and risks their whole career over a few heated words unless they have no sense and I'd like to think you do.


I would, if he is trying to humiliate me with such bad things I think I would and worst if he's my boss and thinks he can do whatever he wants...

We should be proud of this guy he dont let anybody insult him because of money...

ryu79
24 Oct 2007, 07:32 PM
I would, if he is trying to humiliate me with such bad things I think I would and worst if he's my boss and thinks he can do whatever he wants...

We should be proud of this guy he dont let anybody insult him because of money...

You're romanticizing what happened! "Humiliating" "Such bad things" . Come on. We know what happened: A drunken fool came up to babble at Garcia and Garcia showed he didn't have the maturity to deal with it.

colombo
24 Oct 2007, 07:36 PM
You're romanticizing what happened! "Humiliating" "Such bad things" . Come on. We know what happened: A drunken fool came up to babble at Garcia and Garcia showed he didn't have the maturity to deal with it.

OH ok, is that maturity? Well done anyways I truly support him