View Full Version : Weighted Lottery--or was it?!
JoeW
14 Jul 2003, 05:56 PM
MLS has announced that Metro has just acquired GK Jonny Walker via a weighted lottery. Besides Metro's astounding good luck in winning most of the weighted lotteries they've entered (for instance, this is now the 2nd GK they've gotten by weighted lottery), this also provides an some indication that MLS HQ appears to operate on a different calendar from the rest of us since it was announced after the last weighted lottery (where Joey Digimarino went to Metro) that any team winning the lottery would not be able to enter for another year or until every other team had a player allocated via such a lottery.
Walker of course is a fine GK. I've seen clips of him playing and he should do fine. I frankly thought it was pretty stupid of Yallop not to sign him with SJ.
lammygeek
14 Jul 2003, 06:00 PM
...it went something like
Metros - 100
NE - 0
SJ - 0
Dallas -0
LA - 0
Chi - 0
Col - 0
CLB - 0
KC - 0
DC - 0
Lowecifer
14 Jul 2003, 06:01 PM
Shocking!
http://radio.weblogs.com/0107035/images/2002/11/09/shocking.jpg
:)
Funkfoot
14 Jul 2003, 06:02 PM
What's wrong? It's been 5 whole minutes and no Metro supporter has come on to call us all a bunch of paranoid conspiracy theory nuts. Shhh! I hear black helicopters!!
Benedict XVI
14 Jul 2003, 06:09 PM
okay.... this is a wee bit too much.
Victory
14 Jul 2003, 06:15 PM
MLS is such a joke at times. And don't forget that the scum get an allocation for Walker.
On the Scum boards even some of there posters are a little skeptical of the fairness of this.
Benedict XVI
14 Jul 2003, 06:26 PM
Quick, somebody get the press releases where they said Metro couldn't win another one after they got DiGi before MLS changes them.
entropy
14 Jul 2003, 06:30 PM
I'm waiting for someone to tell this is all a sick, sad joke. In the immortal words of P.J. O'Rourke, "What the f(_)ck? I mean, what the f(_)cking f(_)ck!?!"
Lowecifer
14 Jul 2003, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by Vicar
Quick, somebody get the press releases where they said Metro couldn't win another one after they got DiGi before MLS changes them.
This one (http://www.mlsnet.com/content/03/met0331digi.html)?
From the story:
The lottery draft is the mechanism used to place players signed after the 2003 MLS SuperDraft, and who are not assigned to an MLS team via one of the league's other mechanisms (e.g. discovery option, allocation, or the waiver draft). Participation in the MLS lottery system, which was adopted in November, 1999, is voluntary at the discretion of each team. In the event that a team participates in the lottery system and is assigned a player, it will not be entitled to participate in any future lottery during that calendar year until all teams have been allocated a player via the lottery system
Of course, I'm sure the rest of the league declined to participate in the lottery.
Lowecifer
14 Jul 2003, 06:33 PM
Reading the Walker story (http://www.mlsnet.com/content/03/met0714walker.html) on MLSNet.com, I didn't see anything about a lottery. They just say that the Metros acquired Johnny Walker.
So maybe there was no lottery to subvert in the first place.
This all fails to take into consideration the fact that many teams may have opted out of the lottery. There are more than a few teams that are set a GK and wouldn't want to have to waive a player to take on Walker even if the intent would be to try and trade him to Metro.
Originally posted by Lowecifer
Reading the Walker story (http://www.mlsnet.com/content/03/met0714walker.html) on MLSNet.com, I didn't see anything about a lottery. They just say that the Metros acquired Johnny Walker.
So maybe there was no lottery to subvert in the first place.
Could maybe be using the allocation given for losing Howard on the aquisition of Walker?
Victory
14 Jul 2003, 06:38 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lowecifer
Of course, I'm sure the rest of the league declined to participate in the lottery. [/QUOTE
I am sure that you are right and that their failure to participate in the lottery was totally voluntary. What a ************ing joke the rule book is at times.
Benedict XVI
14 Jul 2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by dl
This all fails to take into consideration the fact that many teams may have opted out of the lottery. There are more than a few teams that are set a GK and wouldn't want to have to waive a player to take on Walker even if the intent would be to try and trade him to Metro. you mean like the metros were when they got countess?
It was in there. They changed it. I wonder how they're going to explain it.
Haig
14 Jul 2003, 06:53 PM
Do you want an explanation, or do you want to piss and moan?
1. There were no other teams willing or able to clear roster and cap space to acquire Walker.
2. There was no need to draw lots. Walker, by default, went to the Metros.
3. MLS didn't read its own rules when explaining the mechanism by which Walker was assigned to the Metros. One team enters lottery = no lottery. Instead, draft by reverse order of standings. See (1.) above.
revelation
14 Jul 2003, 06:53 PM
Doesn't matter if everyone waives their rights to participate, according to the Digi article - the Metroscum are barred from participating in a lottery for 1 year! The only way they could participate would be if every other team had received a player via lottery, which is clearly not the case.
Why couldn't MLS just give them an allocation for Tim "****** you" Howard and then they use that on Johnny "Yes, I do make bad Scotch" Walker? That way there is no impropriety or back room deals... Sheesh, they get to make up the rules and cannot even follow the simple ones they make or realize which ones they can circumvent... :rolleyes:
Lowecifer
14 Jul 2003, 06:54 PM
That's what I figured after reading everything.
Barbara
14 Jul 2003, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Lowecifer
Reading the Walker story (http://www.mlsnet.com/content/03/met0714walker.html) on MLSNet.com, I didn't see anything about a lottery. They just say that the Metros acquired Johnny Walker.
So maybe there was no lottery to subvert in the first place.
They changed the article. It originally said he was acquired by the Scum in a weighted lottery.
Barbara
14 Jul 2003, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Haig
Do you want an explanation, or do you want to piss and moan?.
Piss and moan, of course. What kind of stupid question is that?
MikeLastort2
14 Jul 2003, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by Haig
Do you want an explanation, or do you want to piss and moan?
1. There were no other teams willing or able to clear roster and cap space to acquire Walker.
2. There was no need to draw lots. Walker, by default, went to the Metros.
3. MLS didn't read its own rules when explaining the mechanism by which Walker was assigned to the Metros. One team enters lottery = no lottery. Instead, draft by reverse order of standings. See (1.) above.
Oh please, don't try to rationalize the MLS and their ridiculous "rules." Just say they gave Walker to Metros to make up for Howard going to MUFC.