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juan77
27 Sep 2007, 04:20 PM
Hi, pease, can you tell me the main historical French clubs ?
For example i know in Italy they are Milan, Inter, Juventus, Roma and in Spain Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico
Thanks, Juan
Breakwood
27 Sep 2007, 04:32 PM
St. Etienne, Marseille and Lyon are the most successful clubs. St. Etienne in the 60's and 70's. Marseille in the late 80's and early 90's and Lyon presently.
SportBoy333
27 Sep 2007, 05:55 PM
Stade Reims, FC Nantes, Bordeaux, AS Monaco, RCF Paris. A few clubs that are considered "historic" have small fanbases now and are in the lower divisions like Reims and RCF Paris.
Gotham PSG
28 Sep 2007, 12:40 AM
and Lyon
Historically?
Nobody will remember Lyon in 10 years, there was nothing for a century, and all of a sudden they become a main historical club?
come on, give me a break
The historical clubs, from the modern era, are Reims, Marseille, Sainté and... let's say... Nantes, why not
Catel
28 Sep 2007, 04:05 AM
Historically?
Nobody will remember Lyon in 10 years, there was nothing for a century, and all of a sudden they become a main historical club?
come on, give me a break
The historical clubs, from the modern era, are Reims, Marseille, Sainté and... let's say... Nantes, why not
Hey, they are the second French club reaching a European Cup semi :o
I would say Reims (6 titles, 2 C1 finals), Marseille (8 titles, 1 C1 win), Saint-Etienne (10 titles, 1 C1 final), Nantes (8 titles, 1 C1 semi), Monaco (7 titles, 1 C1 final), Bordeaux (6 titles, 1 C3 final).
guignol
28 Sep 2007, 06:16 AM
Historically?
Nobody will remember Lyon in 10 years, there was nothing for a century, and all of a sudden they become a main historical club?
come on, give me a break
The historical clubs, from the modern era, are Reims, Marseille, Sainté and... let's say... Nantes, why not6 straight titles may not make the club historical (even though no one else ever did it) but when they get up to 10 in a row, they may qualify...
in europe too, OL has already done pretty much as well as any of these clubs... in all of french football history we've only made 6 C1 finals and lost 5 of them.
if you can say "nantes why not?" how can you count out OL? FCNA was only founded 7 years earlier, has been champions 8 times (roughly twice a decade), the two clubs have the same number of french cups (3) and OL won a league cup which FCNA didn't. in europe they made ONE semifinal...
the two palmarès are similar... with the difference that nantes' will not likely grow, unless you count gambardellas...
SuperSebGrimaldi
29 Sep 2007, 01:57 PM
6 straight titles may not make the club historical (even though no one else ever did it) but when they get up to 10 in a row, they may qualify...
in europe too, OL has already done pretty much as well as any of these clubs... in all of french football history we've only made 6 C1 finals and lost 5 of them.
if you can say "nantes why not?" how can you count out OL? FCNA was only founded 7 years earlier, has been champions 8 times (roughly twice a decade), the two clubs have the same number of french cups (3) and OL won a league cup which FCNA didn't. in europe they made ONE semifinal...
the two palmarès are similar... with the difference that nantes' will not likely grow, unless you count gambardellas...
Agreed, though I think the perception is that Nantes have, well, more "tradition" than OL since they have won a title in each decade since the 60s and they are renown for their centre de formation (though obviously OL have definitely begun being known in terms of theirs as well). I'm not saying which team is to be seen as more of a "main club" as the title of this thread suggests, though at the moment, I think Nantes would be seen more as the "classic" club.
Then again, look at some of those "classics" now. Reims are languishing in L2, Marseille could be doing that pretty soon ;) (J/K!), Saint-Etienne have bounced though appear steady now, and Nantes were relegated in the past season.
On the other hand, is it any coincidence that the prestige in French clubs has declined as that of the national team has risen quite considerably? After all, PSG won the Cup-Winners Cup in 1996, and I think since then no French team has won anything in Europe, while we all know what happened in the summer a couple of years after 1996.
Trident
30 Sep 2007, 03:54 PM
what about PSG?
Catel
30 Sep 2007, 05:06 PM
what about PSG?
Could a club that exists since 1970, and whose history really begins in 1982,
be a "historical" club ?
Trident
01 Oct 2007, 08:37 PM
It's a "main club" now.
Catel
02 Oct 2007, 03:23 AM
It's a "main club" now.
Main but not historical: less by plus equal less :D
AfrcnHrbMan
02 Oct 2007, 01:25 PM
On the other hand, is it any coincidence that the prestige in French clubs has declined as that of the national team has risen quite considerably? After all, PSG won the Cup-Winners Cup in 1996, and I think since then no French team has won anything in Europe, while we all know what happened in the summer a couple of years after 1996.
Yea it's probably a coincidence. I don't see how the two correlate, besides if anything winnning the cup should have increased exposure to the french league and maybe gotten it more talent. But it didn't. But yea when i hear historic i think Nantes, and st. stevie's club. When I hear main I think clubs in the bigger cities with the bigger names i.e. Lyon, Marseille, PSG, Bordeaux, Monaco.
Catel
02 Oct 2007, 04:48 PM
Bosman law.
1) The best French players leave France to the greatest clubs
2) They become the best players in Europe.
Trident
02 Oct 2007, 06:21 PM
The best players of every country usually leave their leagues, except the british.
AfrcnHrbMan
02 Oct 2007, 10:31 PM
and the italians, and the germans, and the spanish.
SportBoy333
03 Oct 2007, 10:58 PM
Germans dont leave Germany. Italians and Spanish are just now starting to leave.
AfrcnHrbMan
04 Oct 2007, 08:24 AM
Yea the Italians i guess are leaving, though there are really only 4 foreign based players that are getting called up regularly. Theres Grosso of course (though I think he's losing his place), Toni (fat Bayern contracts made even Ribery go there), and Zambrotta and Cannavaro (who argubably would have never left italy if not for the Juve scandal). And correct me if I'm wrong but I think all foreign based spanish players in the national teams plans play in england? Not that it matters, thats still abroad, but it's just interesting that they all play either in spain or england.
SportBoy333
04 Oct 2007, 02:55 PM
Cristiano Lucarelli is another Italian abroad playing in the Ukraine. He substituted for Inzaghi in the 65th minute of a Euro 2008 qualifying match versus France on September 8, 2007.
AfrcnHrbMan
04 Oct 2007, 03:11 PM
Oh i forgot about him. I don't invision an italian national staying there long though. I bet you he's back in italy by next year.
Gio-13
05 Oct 2007, 04:00 AM
I bet you he's back in italy by next year.
You lose the bet.