Manchester United Goalscorers and Assisters 07/08 [R]

[Dark Savante]

Manchester United Goalscorers and Assisters 07/08


Goals


League

Ronaldo - 31 - Birmingham City(A) Wigan Athletic x2(H) Arsenal(A) Blackburn Rovers x2(H) Fulham x2(H) Derby County[pk](H) Everton x2[1pk](H) Sunderland[fk](A) West Ham(A) Newcastle United x3[1fk](H) Reading(A) Portsmouth x2[1fk](H) Newcastle United x2(A) Derby County(H) Bolton Wonderers x2[1fk](H) Liverpool(H) Aston Villa(H) Middlesbrough(A) Arsenal[pk](H) West Ham United x2(H) Wigan Athletic [pk](A)

Tevez – 14 – Chelsea(H) Wigan Athletic(H) Middlesbroughx2(H) Derby County x2(H) Liverpool(A) Birmingham City(H) Newcastle United x2(H) Tottenham Hotspur(A) Aston Villa(H) Blackburn Rovers(A) West Ham United (H)

Rooney - 12 - Wigan Athletic(H) Aston Villa x2(A) Middlesbrough(H) Sunderland(A) Reading(A) Newcastle United x2(A) Aston Villa x2(H) Middlesbrough(A) Chelsea(A)

Saha – 5 – Sunderland(H), Chelsea[pk](H) Sunderland x2[1pk](A) Newcastle United(A)

Giggs - 3 - Aston Villa(A) Derby County(H) Wigan Athletic(A)

Nani – 3 – Spurs(H) Middlesbrough(H) Liverpool(H)

Ferdinand - 2 - Aston Villa(A) Newcastle United(H)

Carrick - 2 - Manchester City(H) West Ham United (H)

Hargreaves - 2 - Fulham[fk](A) Arsenal[fk](H)

OG - 2 - Arsenal(A) Fulham(A)

Brown - 1 - Liverpool(H)

Park - 1 - Fulham(A)

Scholes – 1 – Portsmouth(A)

Vidic – 1 – Everton(A)


Fa Cup


Ronaldo - 3 - Aston Villa(A) Tottenham Hotspur x2[1pk](H)

Fletcher - 2 - Arsenal x2(H)

Rooney - 2 - Aston Villa(A) Arsenal(H)

Nani - 1 - Arsenal(H)

Tevez - 1 - Tottenham Hotspur(H)


Champions League


Ronaldo – 9 – Sporting Lisbon(A) Dynamo Kiev x2[1pk](A) Dynamo Kiev(H) Sporting Lisbon[fk](H) CL RD of 16 - Lyon(H) CL QF - Roma(A) CL Final - Chelsea

Rooney - 4 - Roma(H) Dynamo Kiev(A) Dynamo Kiev(H) CL QF - Roma(A)

Tevez - 4 - Dynamo Kiev(H) Sporting Lisbon(H) Lyon(A) CL QF - Roma(H)

Pique - 2 - Dynamo Kiev(H) Roma(A)

Ferdinand - 1 - Dynamo Kiev(A)

Scholes - 1 - CL SF 2nd leg - Barcelona(H)




Total


Ronaldo – 42

Tevez – 19

Rooney - 18

Saha – 5

Nani – 4

Ferdinand - 3

Giggs - 3

Carrick - 2

Fletcher - 2

Hargreaves - 2

OG - 2

Pique - 2

Scholes – 2

Brown - 1

Park - 1

Vidic – 1



Direct Assists (last direct pass before conversion)



League


Rooney - 10 - Wigan Athletic(H) Middlesbrough(H) Liverpool(A) Sunderland(A) Newcastle United(H) Newcastle United(A) Derby County(A) Liverpool x2(H) Wigan Athletic(A)

Nani – 8 – Sunderland[ck](H), Everton [ck](A) Aston Villa(A) Middlesbrough(H) Newcastle United(H) Portsmouth(H) Tottenham Hotspur[ck](A) Liverpool[ck](H)

Ronaldo - 5 - Birmingham City(H) Newcastle United(A) Aston Villa x3(H)

Tevez – 5 – Portsmouth(A) Aston Villa(A) Blackburn Rovers(H) Newcastle United(H) Reading(A)

Giggs – 4 –Chelsea(H) Blackburn Rovers[ck](H) West Ham(A) Newcastle United(H)

Scholes - 3 - Manchester City(H) Fulham(A) Blackburn Rovers(A)

Carrick - 2 - Newcastle United(A) Middlesbrough(A)

O'Shea - 2 - Fulham(H) Fulham(A)

Brown - 1 - Sunderland(A)

Evra - 1 - Arsenal(A)

Hargreaves - 1 - West Ham United(H)

Park - 1 - Middlesbrough(A)

Simpson - 1 - Wigan Athletic(H)

Vidic - 1 - Fulham(H)



Fa Cup


Giggs - 2 - Aston Villa(A) Tottenham Hotspur(H)

Nani - 2 - Arsenal x2(H)

Anderson - 1 - Arsenal(H)

Carrick - 1 - Arsenal(H)


Champions League


Brown – 3 – Sporting Lisbon(A) Dynamo Kiev(A) CL Final - Chelsea

Nani - 3 - Roma(H) Dynamo Kiev(H) Roma[ck](A)

Giggs - 2 - Dynamo Kiev x2[1fk](A)

Hargreaves - 1 - CL QF - Roma(H)

Ronaldo - 1 - Sporting Lisbon(H)

Rooney - 1 - Dynamo Kiev(H)

Scholes - 1 - CL QF - Roma(A)

Tevez - 1 - Dynamo Kiev(H)


Total


Nani – 13

Rooney - 11

Giggs – 8

Ronaldo - 6

Tevez – 6

Brown – 4

Scholes - 4

Carrick - 3

Hargreaves - 2

O'Shea - 2

Anderson - 1

Evra - 1

Park - 1

Simpson - 1

Vidic - 1


Last updated: after Chelsea game 21/5/08

[Dark Savante]

The more neurotic of you, please keep an eye on this to make sure it's all in order for mistakes and all, please.

The 1st post will be updated after each matchday.

[israbeckham]

good thread idea:)

[Dark Savante]

Well this got a whole lot shorter all of a sudden. :rolleyes:

And then there were 3.

[Vermont Red]

Are you verifying the assists from watching the matches or are you counting on some site? For me, unless the assist really mattered in the goal, I don't believe it should be counted. (For example, Van der Sar passes to Ronaldo, who runs 60 yards and scores. No assist.)

[Dark Savante]

Are you verifying the assists from watching the matches or are you counting on some site? For me, unless the assist really mattered in the goal, I don't believe it should be counted. (For example, Van der Sar passes to Ronaldo, who runs 60 yards and scores. No assist.)

Never by a site. Always by eye.

And always the very last essential touch before the goal. Sadly the visionary long ball that opens up the field and is the basic reason for some goals isn't counted.

[holytoledo]

A couple of the local Uni's have been trying to put second assists on their box scores when they send them into my work. It drives me insane and I haven't been putting them in when I type the match sums up. I'm going to keep doing it my way till I get told otherwise, then I'll probably go on a rant.

This isn't hockey.

[The Jitty Slitter]

I think 2nd assist ought to be included in any of these sorts of stats, as many times its the second assist which makes the goal. Where there is no meaningful 1st or 2nd assist, then include neither. :)

[Dark Savante]

What say our board to this ^outsiders^ request?

:p

[The Jitty Slitter]

What say our board to this ^outsiders^ request?

:p

:D

it was posted as a nerd rather than a fan :D

[Republic of Mancunia]

What say our board to this ^outsiders^ request?

:p

Bin assists altogether.

[Dark Savante]

Bin assists altogether.

Hey now, that wasn't the question! :mad:

That's a bit harsh, btw. Assisters are as important as the goalscorer ain't they? Spoon and the egg and all that.

[Republic of Mancunia]

Hey now, that wasn't the question! :mad:

That's a bit harsh, btw. Assisters are as important as the goalscorer ain't they? Spoon and the egg and all that.

Just messing around. :p

Ultimately I suppose it comes down to what you're trying to establish from the stats (if anything) or just have something fun to look at.

[Chaz Striker]

Carrick will therefore be known as the first and second assistmaster!!!;)

[johno]

I think 2nd Assister is a good idea... but then again, I also think keeping tab of defence opening passes (even if they don't lead to a goal) - strictly for my knowledge as a fan - is a good idea.

Also, this thread I believe will bring to the forefront one of my reasons for giving Nani a more prominent role. We win lots of corners, he's brilliant at taking them and they've twice been the difference in just 9 matches on the season.

[Vermont Red]

In general, I hate the assist stat. In this case, it appears that DS is using discretion in granting assists and not automatically giving credit to the player who makes the last pass. In the case of the second assist, I don't have a big issue with it as long as it's credited properly.

All that being said, I'd still like to bin assists all together.

[Amdrag]

Why? Sometimes the assist is actually more important then the goal. Just ask Tevez.

[Vermont Red]

Why? Sometimes the assist is actually more important then the goal. Just ask Tevez.

I don't like the stat. It's often given to the player who made the last pass, regardless of whether or not the pass had anything to do with the goal.

[Amdrag]

So give it when it matters. Corners, passes that break back lines, through passes, crosses, etc.

[Vermont Red]

So give it when it matters. Corners, passes that break back lines, through passes, crosses, etc.

Exactly. That's why I asked DS if he was giving assists based on watching the matches. I (irrationally, perhaps) trust DS to properly credit assists. Maybe if I have the free time, I'll watch each of United's goals so far this season to see if I agree on the assists. (Now to see if I can free up 30 seconds.)