(BL: Week 6) Karlsruher SC vs.FC Bayern München [R]

[Dead Fingers]

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Go to it.

[nekkibasara]

I hope Toni is given a rest (or plays for 45 mins) and Poldi/Klose start up front.

[ForeverRed]

Anything less than a convincing 3 points would be disapointing.

[Duncan Idaho]

Hopefully Schweinsteiger gets benched for this game

[Klask]

Hitzfeld can't justify putting the pig in the starting lineup considering his last 3 matches. His arse needs to sit down and let others start.

[ForeverRed]

Don't get your hopes up guys. Schweinsteiger will probably start the game.

[eissman]

Andreas Gorlitz and company. Nice. Looking forward to a sound match. Shall be interesting after the midweek UEFA clash. At least we will have Klose back.

[pipin]

Hopefully Schweinsteiger gets benched for this game

hope so, too. let hamit start. And Toni with Klose. Depending on the game I would like to see Schlaudraff for Toni in the second leg.

[checkmate]

Is Karlshure any good?
Does Goerlits have eough playing time there?

I bet Bayern will win, but not as convincingly as we all want.
The problem is still the same. Our players are very good in demonstrating offensive play, but they dont really have intention to fight for the ball.

Example: Ribery. He is damn good with the ball. But sometimes the team needs players which are also good without the ball.
I think Hitzifeld can working on that.
It's just a matter of understanding.

[nekkibasara]

Is Karlshure any good?
Does Goerlits have eough playing time there?

Goerlitz has started every game that I have seen from Karlsruhe so far this season. He has been on of their best players. I think that when he returns from his loan speel there he will be competing heavily for a spot on Bayern. Goerlitz has really improved since he left. The other player to really look out for is Hajnal. He is responsible for almost all of their goals (be it an assist or scoring himself).

[Equilibrium]

Hitzfeld can't justify putting the pig in the starting lineup considering his last 3 matches. His arse needs to sit down and let others start.
In the Schalke game, he played pretty good. Not amazing, but pretty good. In the Hamburg match, he was just terrible, and the same must have happened in the UEFA game.. The reason he hasn't played so great as his first game, is because of fatigue. He is better than Altintop since he has a much better vision and better understanding of the game. He just doesn't have the balls to shoot from far away like Altintop does (why he doesn't really puzzles me!?) which is why Altintop scores and he doesn't. Altintop playing for our next game wouldn't hurt, at least play the 2nd half so Schweini can REST. Same with Ribery, they both need rest. Toni needs to be benched so he can rest as well (60th). Proper rotation so all our starters get their needed rest is important.

I hope we can win 0-3, that would be a great result! I just hope they are more rutheless in this game. Also, I hope Schlaudraff gets 20-30 minutes at least to play in this game! ;)

[Duncan Idaho]

hope so, too. let hamit start. And Toni with Klose. Depending on the game I would like to see Schlaudraff for Toni in the second leg.

I really don't know why this bum has such a good lobby to start all the time. Hopefully Schlaudraff and soon Sosa will kick his ass form the wing position. He never was a winger and never will be one

[Klask]

The reason he hasn't played so great as his first game, is because of fatigue. He is better than Altintop since he has a much better vision and better understanding of the game.

Of course, the Bastian fan club has their apologies lined up.
And yes, Schweinsteiger is much better than Altintop.:rolleyes: (no, not really)

He just doesn't have the balls to shoot from far away like Altintop does (why he doesn't really puzzles me!?) which is why Altintop scores and he doesn't. Altintop playing for our next game wouldn't hurt, at least play the 2nd half so Schweini can REST.

That's just rubbish, he has the balls but Hamit is clearly better than Bastian on long shots. You can't even give him the obvious one, what a blind Bastian homer.

[squidward123]

Schweinsteger was ok in the schalke game.

Ribery was hardly better

[Duncan Idaho]

Schweinsteger was ok in the schalke game.

Ribery was hardly better

Ribery was defended by 2 to 3 opponent player and he still managed to play better than our lazy bum!

[Equilibrium]

Of course, the Bastian fan club has their apologies lined up.
And yes, Schweinsteiger is much better than Altintop.:rolleyes: (no, not really)
So you're saying that fatigue cannot possibly be a reason why he stopped playing as good as the first BL games?

That's just rubbish, he has the balls but Hamit is clearly better than Bastian on long shots. You can't even give him the obvious one, what a blind Bastian homer.

Schweini does not shoot many long shots, hardly any at all this season. Hamit shoots twice as many shots (if not more) than Schweini does in one game, and that's when Hamit comes on in 70th minute! You don't have to like Schweini, but you can't really disagree with me here... Altintop shoots more than him, and he may be a better shooter than him.

[Klask]

So you're saying that fatigue cannot possibly be a reason why he stopped playing as good as the first BL games?

I'm saying the fatigue argument is not a good one when talking about Schweinsteiger . What's the tired from? the long summer vacation? The 70 minutes he played 5 days before the uefa cup match??
Last year the world cup took place and a lot of players were talking about tiredness, not getting getting any rest after a long season etc. This season they've had a longer vacation, and I don't want to hear the poor fatigue argument from the start of the season, especially not from a 23 year old young player. Some players like Lucio and Demichelis I can accept the fatigue argument, spending all those hours on a freaking airplane to play some friendly games, and then returning home late to München to a important match against Schalke.


Schweini does not shoot many long shots, hardly any at all this season. Hamit shoots twice as many shots (if not more) than Schweini does in one game, and that's when Hamit comes on in 70th minute! You don't have to like Schweini, but you can't really disagree with me here... Altintop shoots more than him, and he may be a better shooter than him.

He does not shoot twice as much as slutty little pig, and I can disagree with you anytime I want to. I'm I not surprised, when a guy claims Sagnol is a reserve player you know something is wrong. You have to be rather clueless to make such a claim.

[squidward123]

all reasoning for tiredness are subjective as we don't know what causes a player to be tired.

some might actually sleep 12 hours on a plane and get a lot of rest.

the only thing we can say is the end result - by looking at a player during a game.

[Equilibrium]

I'm saying the fatigue argument is not a good one when talking about Schweinsteiger . What's the tired from? the long summer vacation? The 70 minutes he played 5 days before the uefa cup match??
Last year the world cup took place and a lot of players were talking about tiredness, not getting getting any rest after a long season etc. This season they've had a longer vacation, and I don't want to hear the poor fatigue argument from the start of the season, especially not from a 23 year old young player. Some players like Lucio and Demichelis I can accept the fatigue argument, spending all those hours on a freaking airplane to play some friendly games, and then returning home late to München to a important match against Schalke.
When a player plays in UEFA, BL and international games, you would be surprised if the player gets tired? Have you actually played football before? Stop hyping Sagnol so much, you're making it seem like he's the best RB in the world... He was great in 2 seasons for Bayern and decent in another, nothing really amazing. Like I said, he's not irreplacable. A GREAT player no doubt. Don't be surprised if Jansen replaces him in the future.



He does not shoot twice as much as slutty little pig, and I can disagree with you anytime I want to. I'm I not surprised, when a guy claims Sagnol is a reserve player you know something is wrong. You have to be rather clueless to make such a claim.
Well then, you're just blind... Simple as that. He shoots much more than piggy, at least so far. Whether Schweini will get some confidence (or balls) for that matter, we'll have to wait and see. Schweini shoots 1-2 times a game. Altintop shoots 2-5 times a game.

[makkay]

i love piggy but he should be benched for a while, it might do him some good. things have to change and i think like a lot of people that he should be playing in the center of midfield and not on the wing but we already have Ze and Mark there. he should be benched for now and hopefully he will start performing.