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Colonel Angus
12 Jul 2003, 08:45 PM
How many soft goals will Rimando give up this year? There's nothing that will deflate a team more than giving up a goal because of a 'keeping error...

Doug Warren has done well playing in Richmond...maybe we should give him a chance at the next level?

sch2383
12 Jul 2003, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Colonel Angus
How many soft goals will Rimando give up this year? There's nothing that will deflate a team more than giving up a goal because of a 'keeping error...

Doug Warren has done well playing in Richmond...maybe we should give him a chance at the next level?

I think that Rimando will keep you in more matches then he will lose you. He has been playing well, he just needs to remember to take his Ritilan before the game and its all good.

Sundevil9
12 Jul 2003, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by sch2383
I think that Rimando will keep you in more matches then he will lose you. He has been playing well, he just needs to remember to take his Ritilan before the game and its all good.

Absolutely, for the three or five games in the last two years where he's given up soft goals, he's played United into more points, or at the very least kept the team within reach in games that they've had no business being in.

DCU
12 Jul 2003, 11:11 PM
Rimando sucks. Dallas aside, he's easily the worst starting keeper in MLS.

Sundevil9
12 Jul 2003, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by DCU
Rimando sucks. Dallas aside, he's easily the worst starting keeper in MLS.

But at least you agree that he's in the top 10.

bigredfutbol
12 Jul 2003, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by DCU
Rimando sucks. Dallas aside, he's easily the worst starting keeper in MLS.

Easily? I'd like to see some stats.

MikeLastort2
12 Jul 2003, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by Sundevil9
But at least you agree that he's in the top 10.

:)

dc the winning tradition
12 Jul 2003, 11:53 PM
ill never forget the day we drafted him with our first pick in the dispersal draft. i thought it was the worst move ever. nicky is a good keeper but finding a good keeper in mls isnt that difficult. finding a good striker or center mid is. true he has kept us in games but so has tim howard, adin brown, hartman, cannon, meola even busch and onstad have come up with some big ones for their teams. its hard to find an mls team without a good goalie.

bottomline to me is you have no business as a goalkeeper in mls if you cant read and make the right decisions on crosses. nicky cant he needs more development. he always looks poor on crosses and always out of position he just ususally gets lucky. his shot blocking and saving is good but until he has the whole package he doesnt belong with us.

Benedict XVI
12 Jul 2003, 11:56 PM
he's too short.

MikeLastort2
13 Jul 2003, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by dc the winning tradition
ill never forget the day we drafted him with our first pick in the dispersal draft. i thought it was the worst move ever. nicky is a good keeper but finding a good keeper in mls isnt that difficult. finding a good striker or center mid is. true he has kept us in games but so has tim howard, adin brown, hartman, cannon, meola even busch and onstad have come up with some big ones for their teams. its hard to find an mls team without a good goalie.

bottomline to me is you have no business as a goalkeeper in mls if you cant read and make the right decisions on crosses. nicky cant he needs more development. he always looks poor on crosses and always out of position he just ususally gets lucky. his shot blocking and saving is good but until he has the whole package he doesnt belong with us.

Originally posted by Vicar
he's too short.

I was having this exact same conversation with revelation and DopplerGT tonight.

Nicky is a good, but not great, keeper. He's nowhere near as good as Hudson thinks he is. He makes spectaluar saves, but the ony reason they look spectacular is that he's so short that he has to leap all over the net to make a save.

We wasted a pick on him when we brought him here, especially when we could've had Adin Brown, who I think is a better overall keeper than Nicky.

Then again, I always thought it was a mistake when DC United got rid of Scott Garlick.

McOwen
13 Jul 2003, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by Vicar
he's too short.

this is all rubbish. No offense to everyone here but your all high. He is one of the BEST keepers in MLS. EASY. He is simply prone to making the OCCASIONAL stupid decision because he is too aggressive. Yet, it is also the reason why he is such an excellent keeper.

Here is a stat... Our team defense is tops in the league. The guy has had one bad game and an aweful mistake tonight and your all calling for his head. Take a deep breath and step back. You want REALLY bad decisions? Go watch some Tom PResthus tapes.

p.s. I am at least with Mike on Garlick. But we can blame THAT one on Bruce Almighty.

MikeLastort2
13 Jul 2003, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by McOwen
this is all rubbish. No offense to everyone here but your all high. He is one of the BEST keepers in MLS. EASY. He is simply prone to making stupid decisions because he is too aggressive. It is also the reason why he is such an excellent keeper.

Here is a stat... Our team defense is tops in the league. The guy has had one bad game and an aweful mistake tonight and your all calling for his head. Take a deep breath and step back. You want REALLY bad decisions? Go watch some Tom PResthus tapes.

I hate to disagree, but Nicky is just not that good. Stupid mistakes caused by being too aggressive can cost your team goals. We're lucky Chicago didn't score on that one instance when Rimando came charging out of his area, and didn't grab the ball. He had to run his ass off to get back into position, and even then he didn't quite get there and the only thing that saved us was bad finishing by (I think) Razov.

MikeLastort2
13 Jul 2003, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by McOwen
p.s. I am at least with Mike on Garlick. But we can blame THAT one on Bruce Almighty.

Yep. That was the one glaring mistake I think Bruce Arena ever made as head coach of DC United.

dc the winning tradition
13 Jul 2003, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by MikeLastort2
Then again, I always thought it was a mistake when DC United got rid of Scott Garlick.

garlick was my favorite. always back there chewing his gum. i remember the glory days at home games when dc would be winning possesion 70% to 30% and he would be back there doing knee lifts or jumps to stay busy. it was awesome until someone got the great idea that prethsus was the next great keeper and kicked garlick aside. :(

MikeLastort2
13 Jul 2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by dc the winning tradition
garlick was my favorite. always back there chewing his gum. i remember the glory days at home games when dc would be winning possesion 70% to 30% and he would be back there doing knee lifts or jumps to stay busy. it was awesome until someone got the great idea that prethsus was the next great keeper and kicked garlick aside. :(

Arena did that. I'll never understand why.

dc the winning tradition
13 Jul 2003, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by McOwen
this is all rubbish. No offense to everyone here but your all high. He is one of the BEST keepers in MLS. EASY.

i have to disagree, i would take the following mls keepers over rimando:

hartman, howard, meola, thorton, brown, onstad and garlick. so that leaves busch and countess that i wouldnt take and dj is tempting because he is such a prospect. to me nicky is right about 8th best in mls which isnt too special.

ask teenie bopper eddie gaven if he has ever been in clear on a breakaway and seen the goalie stay on his line.

rymannryan
13 Jul 2003, 12:14 AM
Why did Bruce put Garlick in over Simpson in the first place? Just wondering as I didn't start watching DC games or MLS or soccer in general until MLS Cup '97.

dc the winning tradition
13 Jul 2003, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by MikeLastort2
Arena did that. I'll never understand why.

well at least now with keller, friedel and howard it looks like bruce cant make a similar bad decision.

to bruce's defense i do remember talk of garlicks commitment to the game and how long he was going to keep playing. not sure of the particulars but i remember that coming up. maybe someone else remembers more ???

shawn12011
13 Jul 2003, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by dc the winning tradition
i have to disagree, i would take the following mls keepers over rimando:

hartman, howard, meola, thorton, brown, onstad and garlick. so that leaves busch and countess that i wouldnt take and dj is tempting because he is such a prospect. to me nicky is right about 8th best in mls which isnt too special.

ask teenie bopper eddie gaven if he has ever been in clear on a breakaway and seen the goalie stay on his line.

Two changes to your list..... I have not seen Onstad play this season so I can't, in all good conscience place him in any list yet and I would not take Meola if you pointed a nuclear missle at my head. He is in no way a team play, he is fat, lazy, technically poor and blames everyone from his teammates to the fans behind the goal chanting at him for his mistakes.


( I am taking new memberships in the I hate Meola Fan Club all season long ;) )

Daniel le Rouge
13 Jul 2003, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by rymannryan
Why did Bruce put Garlick in over Simpson in the first place? Just wondering as I didn't start watching DC games or MLS or soccer in general until MLS Cup '97. Mark blew out his knee playing indoors (if I recall correctly) during the offseason. Garlick replaced him until he recovered. Unfortunately for Mark, the surgery on his knee became infected, and the infection got out of control--it was actually life-threatening at one point. That set him back a couple of years. His knee never really recovered.