Shevchenko Worship thread [Archive]

yasik19

17 Sep 2007, 11:35 AM

"Just have a look at the reaction of Mourinho (when Shevchenko missed a second-half chance against Bleckburn) - this is what tells me he's not loved at Chelsea.

even though I don't fully agree with Shearer's statement there, there is some truth to that. I'm not making excuses for Sheva, but how many times have we heard Jose backing Drogba to shine and all and you can't tell me that doesn't give the player confidence to play well. Maybe Jose should do the same with Sheva.

newyorkerr

17 Sep 2007, 04:16 PM

With $200000 a week he don't need our worship hehe, but some truth should be revealed - JM's behaviour is not as forgiving to Sheva as he is/was for the others. I mean, he can screw his face as much as he want to, but let Sheva play, thats all. Don't sub him every game, don't leave him in the cold and don't expect him to score in his first game after month and a half layout.

BTW all you Sheva bashers juts plainly forgot that he lacked any Prem gametime this season, huh? Two games for Ukraine where he is The Man, where the game flows through and for him is not the same.

tptp

17 Sep 2007, 04:18 PM

even though I don't fully agree with Shearer's statement there, there is some truth to that. I'm not making excuses for Sheva, but how many times have we heard Jose backing Drogba to shine and all and you can't tell me that doesn't give the player confidence to play well. Maybe Jose should do the same with Sheva.

jm was pretty supportive of sheva last year.

take his name and salary away, close your eyes then re-open them and it looks like kezman out there.

newyorkerr

17 Sep 2007, 05:02 PM

jm was pretty supportive of sheva last year.

take his name and salary away, close your eyes then re-open them and it looks like kezman out there.

No, he wasn't. Starting with his list of players that will start to early substitutions to newspaper rapports to what not. Of all Chelsea players Sheva had a hardest year and it continues with idiots like Alan Hansen who have no idea what they talking about. I thought that centerforward is about position, reaction and ability to score goals from any position (the better ones at least), not necessarily speed. But maybe I missing something. let me go and watch B'Burn game again.

yasik19

17 Sep 2007, 05:07 PM

jm was pretty supportive of sheva last year.

I only remember few times when Jose spoke highly of Sheva. Sheva wasn't on the list of untouchables and was never shown the same confidence as was Drogba. Again, I'm not aking excuses, but it's obvious that Jose has his preferred players and then there are others.

take his name and salary away, close your eyes then re-open them and it looks like kezman out there.

I think Sheva is better looking.:D

Clan

17 Sep 2007, 06:08 PM

No, he wasn't. Starting with his list of players that will start to early substitutions to newspaper rapports to what not. Of all Chelsea players Sheva had a hardest year and it continues with idiots like Alan Hansen who have no idea what they talking about. I thought that centerforward is about position, reaction and ability to score goals from any position (the better ones at least), not necessarily speed. But maybe I missing something. let me go and watch B'Burn game again.

Hansen actually isn't that bad, though like all pundits, he can go off the deep end at times.

Is it a case of Sheva losing a step, or is the prem just too fast at times for him?

The truth is, that it's a combination of both, and at his age it will only get worse.
High line defenses are a bane to him now, and he will face them each and every week in England, although, if he could just teach that young kid Kalou a thing or two about holding a run......

ManUsucks

17 Sep 2007, 07:22 PM

.......sheva sucks now, pizarro is better:p:D:cool:

4x4s

17 Sep 2007, 08:29 PM

"He can't run, that's the problem he's got," Hansen said. "If you can't run as a centre forward, you're in trouble."

Sure.
Pirlo and Gattuso where basically carrying him around in their arms for 90' while he was playing for Milan, and dropped him off right in front of the box when a goal scoring opportunity came, with him just having to tap in.

nicephoras

17 Sep 2007, 09:12 PM

The pace in Italy is slower. As it is in the CL, which is where he plays better. I hope he gets a run out against Rosenborg.

footballer4lyfe00

17 Sep 2007, 09:29 PM

The pace in Italy is slower. As it is in the CL, which is where he plays better. I hope he gets a run out against Rosenborg.

Agree 100%.

He doesn't perform nearly as well against opposing English sides. We should reserve him for Champion's League games where we know he has the most capability of performing.

srd....

18 Sep 2007, 10:07 AM

The pace in Italy is slower. As it is in the CL, which is where he plays better. I hope he gets a run out against Rosenborg.

he's set to start alongside kalou.
no drogs or piza tonight.

as for the pace issue,im fairly confidant he could over come that if he got his first touch in and around the box issues sorted out.

however without decent service he's back to his pace problems,it's a vicious circle really....

tptp

18 Sep 2007, 12:59 PM

guys - players do lose a step or two. when he was at milan that was a few years ago, a few miles ago, and a few surgeries ago. just because someone was great, doesnt mean they should be great today. also, i remember jm specifically calling out sheva and praising him for his work rate off the ball and how professional he was, when the media were killing him. that you cannot deny.

and furthermore, jm had won 2 titles with didi being a horse for him. why should someone like sheva automatically deserve everything on a silver platter. and lastly, didi had a pretty good year last year - he deserved the praise. sheva did not play well. simple as that.

Sergius64

18 Sep 2007, 02:19 PM

Looks to me like his first touch is more of the problem then his speed. Looking at the BB game I saw at least 3 times where his poor ball control cost him possession in front of the box or that one time when he was clear on goal. The ball seemed to get stuck under his feet a lot, or go too far away from him. Meanwhile, I only saw one instance of where his was slower then the defender to the ball. And even in that instance the speed difference between him and the defender wasn't nearly as dramatic as some are making it out to be.

MasterShake

18 Sep 2007, 08:54 PM

L.G.S

20 Sep 2007, 05:19 PM

I didnt watch today game against Rosenberg, but from what I am gathering Sheva played really well today.

I have to somewhat agree with the lack of support JM has been showing to Sheva...saying things to the media is one thing, but subbing you out at 60th minute every match, making you play on the reserve team..or not making you play at all...show alot more about what JM is really thinking.

remember actions speak louder than words.

Sheva played with heart, but he didn't play with skill or finish. His accuracy is almost as bad as Kalou's and his pace is awful. He did make a few good crosses but that was pretty much it that he actually made useful other than the goal.

hope chest

20 Sep 2007, 07:11 PM

remember actions speak louder than words.

something sheva would wanna keep in mind cos his actions in front of goal with the ball at his feet have been screaming "i'm not worth the money". he's great with the ukraine, shite playing with chelsea. if actions speak louder than words his actions say "play me for 2 matches a month." i'm sorry but when yer an over 30 striker, you should understand that if you don't produce you will be benched or replaced. jumping ship from "the family atmosphere at milan" for $$$ buys you very little love when you don't produce. do i think he's quality? of COURSE. do i think he's a good match for chelsea? OF COURSE NOT. he's a hell of a guy, but he's not the best starter for chelsea. and that's no one's fault but the person who courted him in the first place and said player that signed the contract to make the move.

newyorkerr

22 Sep 2007, 01:08 AM

Sure.
Pirlo and Gattuso where basically carrying him around in their arms for 90' while he was playing for Milan, and dropped him off right in front of the box when a goal scoring opportunity came, with him just having to tap in.

You probably never saw a Milan game in your life. this is as much of a reply you will get.

the101er

26 Sep 2007, 05:40 PM

How to convert Chuck Norris jokes into Andriy Shevchenko jokes.

Andriy Shevchenko sold his soul to the devil for his rugged good looks and unparalleled scoring ability. Shortly after the transaction was finalized, Andriy bicycle kicked the devil in the face and took his soul back. The devil, who appreciates irony, couldn't stay mad and admitted he should have seen it coming. They now play poker every second Wednesday of the month.

Chuck Norris = Andriy Shevchenko
Martial Arts = scoring
Roundhouse = Bicycle

loden

27 Sep 2007, 10:37 AM

The way I see it, Sheva is done at Chelsea. He never fit the style of football that you play to begin with, and his form didn't help him much to stay on the field either. I really can't blame Mourinho or Grant for not starting him. You should cut him loose.