Scottish Universities

[prymetyme]

This is really a question for people who live in Scotland, or have any contact or experience with Scottish Universities. I'm applying to school this year so im getting my act together. I am very much interested in attending a uni outside the country. I'm particularly interested in St. Andrews, University of Glasgow, and University of Edinburgh. Any input is greatly appreciated.
Thanks :)

[holytoledo]

This is really a question for people who live in Scotland, or have any contact or experience with Scottish Universities. I'm applying to school this year so im getting my act together. I am very much interested in attending a uni outside the country. I'm particularly interested in St. Andrews, University of Glasgow, and University of Edinburgh. Any input is greatly appreciated.
Thanks :)

Curious, are you looking at these schools for a four-year degree or to study abroad while going to school in the states?

[prymetyme]

four year degree. I'm looking at a few places outside the U.S. including Scotland and Canada.

[sab456]

:D:puniversity of manchester :)

[prymetyme]

I've heard that it is very hard for Americans to get in to English schools because of the 3 Year system they have. Is that true?

[holytoledo]

I've heard that it is very hard for Americans to get in to English schools because of the 3 Year system they have. Is that true?

I thought you were German.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

Flying visit and I will deal with this later but what would you be wanting to study?

[prymetyme]

I am a EU citizen, but that doesn't change the fact that I will have an American high school diploma. I've been told by people at my school that they don't often admit students from America unless they have amazing test scores because of they're "accelerated" 3 year process. Although they could be wrong, I would certainly enjoy applying to a few English schools as well.

[prymetyme]

Flying visit and I will deal with this later but what would you be wanting to study?

I haven't decided on anything specific yet, but mostly in the area of business. Areas like accounting, finances, ect...

[holytoledo]

I haven't decided on anything specific yet, but mostly in the area of business. Areas like accounting, finances, ect...

Selling your soul, etc...

[prymetyme]

Yes, basically. I think I've had enough of my liberal arts to the max education. I can only deal with quotes from Homer and Virgil so often. I am only a human.

[holytoledo]

Yes, basically. I think I've had enough of my liberal arts to the max education. I can only deal with quotes from Homer and Virgil so often. I am only a human.

Just as long as you know that your pissing on the world by wasting time at college "learning" about business and finance.

[dannytoone]

Just as long as you know that your pissing on the world by wasting time at college "learning" about business and finance.

I might actually agree with you, but I'm not sure. Can you expound?

[holytoledo]

I might actually agree with you, but I'm not sure. Can you expound?

I don't rate business majors. This is just a personnel view but I wish people would feel the need to go into fields that would better serve mankind. Social sciences, math, science, education, english, etc. Expand your world view and the like, don't set yourself up for a job at Target Corporate FFS. I don't really think you need a degree for that sort of work.

[sdotsom]

I don't rate business majors. This is just a personnel view but I wish people would feel the need to go into fields that would better serve mankind. Social sciences, math, science, education, english, etc. Expand your world view and the like, don't set yourself up for a job at Target Corporate FFS. I don't really think you need a degree for that sort of work.

In a sense, I agree with you. I just finished Uni and experience both sides. I have a major in Biology, a minor in Poly Sci, and a minor in Business. I can safely say that I didn't learn anything in the few business classes I took except buzzwords and basic networking skills. There is some math as well, but for the average student it's more the process applied, rather than the math itself, that requires some focus.

B-school was basically a 4 year networking party at my school - very little work involved, yet these are the mother********ers who go on to average 55k a year jobs while humanities people get 35k or less. Your call on whether your soul is worth that much - I personally don't know where I stand on it. My biology degree is useless to me as I plan on going to med school and got it to look good for applying - other than that, it's useless unless I want to research (hate that) or teach high school biology (hell naw).

[dannytoone]

I don't rate business majors. This is just a personnel view but I wish people would feel the need to go into fields that would better serve mankind. Social sciences, math, science, education, english, etc. Expand your world view and the like, don't set yourself up for a job at Target Corporate FFS. I don't really think you need a degree for that sort of work.
I agree that business school is unnecessary, because most businessmen learn their trade in the field regardless of their education.

However, if you don't think that businessmen don't serve mankind, you are severely mistaken. Don't fall trap to the idea that businessmen are just exploiters. Remember capitalism rests on the idea that people make voluntary agreements together, and the simple fact that they are voluntary means that the perception from both sides is that the agreement is mutually beneficial.

And anyone who thinks the government "serves" society, remember that they do it using coercion and force. They force the taxes on the people and display almost zero accountability in how they spend it. Mutually beneficial doesn't exist in any government service. Including education.

[dannytoone]

In a sense, I agree with you. I just finished Uni and experience both sides. I have a major in Biology, a minor in Poly Sci, and a minor in Business. I can safely say that I didn't learn anything in the few business classes I took except buzzwords and basic networking skills. There is some math as well, but for the average student it's more the process applied, rather than the math itself, that requires some focus.

B-school was basically a 4 year networking party at my school - very little work involved, yet these are the mother********ers who go on to average 55k a year jobs while humanities people get 35k or less. Your call on whether your soul is worth that much - I personally don't know where I stand on it. My biology degree is useless to me as I plan on going to med school and got it to look good for applying - other than that, it's useless unless I want to research (hate that) or teach high school biology (hell naw).
So going into business is selling your soul, just because they make more money? Great logic...:rolleyes:

[sdotsom]

It has nothing to do with the money. Read the post.

Money comes with the position - the position involves selling your soul. The money is just a benefit.

[dannytoone]

It has nothing to do with the money. Read the post.

Money comes with the position - the position involves selling your soul. The money is just a benefit.
So far, all I can get from your post is that you are mad that business majors work less and earn more.

What position is it that requires selling your soul?

[sdotsom]

I'm not angry at all. One of my regrets is that I didn't do business myself. Like I said, my humanities degree was earned completely with a med school future in mind - a mistake. I still may go, but you don't need to have a bio degree. If I could do it again, I'd do some sort of double major/one major 2 minor combination of International Business/Political Science/Economics.

In terms of my post, I'm saying that capitalism makes some businessmen engage in decisions that are harmful to people, all in pursuit of money. I.e., financial advisors who push sh*t stocks to their clients to receive kickbacks. Abuse of corporate privileges while employees are getting fired. etc. Not that this doesn't exist in other fields, but I'd say it's moreso in business, as that's the nature of it's beast.